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Posted 20 April 2009 - 11:59 PM

Official Modification Forum Rules & Procedure
The GTA Network / GTANet


The general GTANet and GTAForums rules apply to these forums as well, these modding rules
are more specific to the modding forums. GTANet rules -> http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=137906

[1.0] General Info
When posting in the modding forums:
  • [1.1] Ensure you're posting in the right section
  • [1.2] Topic and sub titles should be informative and relevant to the topic, and include topic tags.
  • [1.3] The topic should include as much information as possible, this allows you to get a much faster response, rather then wasting the first few posts on requesting information.
[2.0] Overall rules
  • [2.1]ALL topics MUST have topic tags.
    • [Q] denotes a question
    • [DOC] denotes a topic that has useful information
    • [TUT] denotes a tutorial
    • [WIP] denotes a work in progress mod
    • [REL] denotes a release
  • [2.2]When creating a release or work in progress thread in the showrooms, please ensure it
    has screenshots and for a release, a download link.
[3.0] Editing rules
  • [3.1]Search before you post, if you ask a question that has already been asked two dozen
    times. Then the topic will be locked. We have pinned topics at the top of every forum, that contain a link to the relevant information. If the topics have nothing, then the header at the top of the forum should have something.
  • [3.2]NO Requests threads allowed, post any requests in the pinned topics that are in each forum.
[4.0] Showroom rules

[4.1] Download links must NOT:
  • [4.1.1] Require registration.
  • [4.1.2] Limit the amount of available downloads.
  • [4.1.3] Expire after a pre-defined amount of time.
Please avoid upload sites such as RapidShare and MegaUpload due to their expiration times and download limits. Consider GTAGarage.com for reliable hosting. Any topics that do not comply will have their links removed and may eventually be locked.

The mod forums have a feature that allows a GTAGarage mod to be linked to the release topic. This will include a section of the post that has screenshots and links to the files.

[4.2] Releasing Mods by Other Authors
Some members have released vehicles made by friends or people they know. However, this is not a wise idea as it can result in all kinds of problems. If a member would like his car to be released then they must sign up and post Themself. An inability to write good english isn't really an excuse. It avoids any controversy regarding mod theft/ripping, even if you clearly state that the mod is legitimate in your topic.

[4.3] Exceptions:
Modding tools. We are always happy to host information regarding new tools/programs by other people; in aid of GTA modding or to advance it. If you do create a thread about such a tool then please state clearly who the author of the tool is and possibly provide any information to contact them. Major breakthroughs in GTA Modding are also an exception, though we request you use the Search feature first, as your idea may not be as much of a breakthrough as you think. However we still maintain that if possible, original authors post the topic themselves.

[4.4] Mod Theft/Ripping
Mod theft/ripping is taken very seriously and many people have been permanently banned from GTAForums for such actions. These forums are home to some of the best and most experienced GTA modders around, many will have seen almost every GTA mod currently released, even for games as far back as GTA1. You will NOT get away with it, and you WILL be banned for it. This is a serious issue and will not be tolerated under any circumstances. Mods are released for free by their authors, the authors decide who uses their material. If you disregard an author's wishes for whatever reason, your opinion on relevance or importance will not be consulted. This is NOT for you to decide - only the original authors.

This rule includes:
  • [4.4.1] Using parts created by other authors without permission.
  • [4.4.2] Converting cars without permission. (see below)
[4.5] Conversions
Conversions should be seen as a last resort. If for some reason the original author is unable to convert the model, or is unwilling due to lack of time/personal life, then the model may be converted under and ONLY under the following condition;

The original author of the model MUST, THEMSELVES, publicly state that he/she allows it. This is not open for debate / discussion, this is final. Anyone caught posing as an original author will be permanently banned, no exceptions.

If the original author is unavailable, or can't be contacted, the conversion may not be released.
  • [4.5.1] Tuning/Ricing/Pimping - Improving/editing another author's work and re-releasing it requires the same level of verification as a conversion, and requires a post from the original author.
  • [4.5.2] Original GTA content - Converting these between games is allowed, in moderation. It's a common practice, everyone who has gta installed has access to these vehicles, and getting Rockstar's permission simply won't happen. No point in trying to stop access to something you already have. However, converting excessive amounts of content will detract from interest in scratch-made content. It can also cause issues with Rockstar: if GTAIV's content could be installed into the much cheaper and older San Andreas - GTAIV sales could suffer - and future GTAs will be more likely to contain anti-modding protection. Modding currently encourages people to buy the PC version in order to install mods, which makes us a friend of Rockstar. Let's try to keep it that way.
  • [4.5.3] Content from websites - As long as it's under a suitable licence granting it's free use, then it's allowed. Make sure to follow allow requirements of that licence. If no license is provided with the content, include a link to where it was originally obtained.
  • [4.5.4] Models that require permission from a corporate entity, like EA Games, are NOT allowed for conversions (with the R* exception listed above). Failure to meet the above criteria will result in, at minimum, a locked topic and verbal warning.
[4.6] Topic Titles
All main topic titles should be named accordingly. You may add whatever you want to the title description (second line).

All topic titles must have a preceding tag, in one of the following formats:
[WIP|SCR] Mod name - A work in progress (WIP) made ENTIRELY by yourself (SCR)
[WIP|CON] Mod name - A work in progress (WIP) that is a conversion by a different author from a different gta game (CON)
[WIP|MOD] Mod name - A work in progress (WIP) that is a modification of a stock GTA car or another author's already released mod (MOD)
[REL|Final] Mod name - A finished mod release (REL) of which this is the final version (Final)
[REL|1.2Beta] Mod name - A finished mod release (REL) of which this is an early release (Beta) the number stands for the beta's version (1.2)

For other on-topic posts such as competitions:
[Other] Topic title

[4.7] Topic Icons
When you first create your topic, most skins allow you to select a topic icon from below the message area. The options are:-
  • user posted image - Grand Theft Auto 3.
  • user posted image - Grand Theft Auto Vice City.
  • user posted image - Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
  • user posted image - Grand Theft Auto 4
[4.8] Posting
The Mod Showroom exists as a handy place to provide downloads to your mods, but also to collect tips and constructive critique of your work. Thus, you may NOT:
  • [4.8.1] Do not engage in motor vehicle discussion. That can be done here.
  • [4.8.2] Do not request a car from an author unless they have explicitly asked you to do so. Vehicle requests go here and all other mod requests go here.
  • [4.8.3] Do not request help with modding or editing in somebody else's topic - make your own topic in Editing Discussion.
  • [4.8.4] Do not post insulting or non-constructive posts in any topics. However, constructive comments are welcome, so authors must be prepared to face criticism. This is a public forum, people will post what they think. If you aren't comfortable with what others think you should do to improve, do not post.
If you are a repetitive offender (several times), or have been around long enough that you should be familiar with these rules, it is likely you will be warned for breaking them. The forum rules apply to all areas as always.

[5.0] Conversion Rules

[5.1] GTANet's Rules on Vehicle Model Conversions
Conversions should be seen as a last resort. If for some reason the original author is UNABLE to convert the model, or is unwilling due to lack of time/personal life et all, then the model may be converted under and ONLY under the following condition;
The original author of the model MUST, THEMSELF, publicly state by posting here at gtaf in the topic where the vehicle is being converted, that he/she allows it. This is not open for debate / discussion, this is final.

If the original author is unavailable or can't be contacted, the conversion may not be done.

Related issues:
  • "tuning" - tuning a vehicle requires the same level of verification as a conversion. it can only be done if the original model author posts in the topic where the tuning is being done, that it is approved. Tuning is defined as any modifications to a vehicle or its supporting files, with intent to distribute.
  • Converting R* cars between gta games is allowed. it's a common practice, everyone who has gta installed has access to these vehicles, and getting R*'s permission simply won't happen. no point in trying to stop access to something you already have.
  • "Free" models from websites - as long as it's under a GPL-type license, then it's allowed. and being under that license, you must also redistribute the license with the vehicle (if applicable), in addition to the other car files. If no license is provided with the model, include a link to where it was originally obtained.
  • Models that require permission from a corporate entity, like EA Games, aren't allowed for conversions period (with the R* exception listed above).
Failure to meet the above criteria will result in at minimum, a locked topic and verbal warning.
How are we suppose to get permission from EA games to use one of their models?
You aren't. And converting EA's models has never actually been allowed. There were "unwritten" rules on conversions before and they were dealt with differently depending on the mod who dealt with them, and the circumstances. This is a way of making them "official". GTANet wishes to promote more originality and creativity in its modders/modelers, and this is a step toward making that more possible.

[5.2] Episodes from Liberty City, The Lost and Dammed and The Ballard of Gay Tony Conversions

The conversion of any vehicle from the games are NOT allowed, the conversion of such vehicles to older games is stealing, if you want a vehicle from one of these games so desperately buy the game and convert it yourself.

[6.0] Multiplayer Modding
As of patch 1.0.3 mods that are specifically for multiplayer are not allowed, whilst some of you say it can be distinguished between different modes, it doesn't take much to edit it to work in all modes.

[7.0] Mod Theft

We see many accusations of mod theft in the modding showrooms, but most of them aren't well founded. That's why we decided to make a policy about this.

When you think someone has stolen a mod, you have to do two things. First, you have to find evidence. Without evidence, we can't do something about it. Try to use google, for example. Only when you find something that proves that your accusation is well founded, you are allowed to report.
If you found something, you have to report the topic or send a PM to someone of the modding staff. In this report, you have to give us the evidence you found. In a PM, you also have to link to the topic.

By evidence we don't mean a link to the site. What we mean is screenshots of the mods side by side, and anything else that you feel would help the case.

Remember: never post an accusation on the forum. There are several reasons for that. Perhaps you are wrong, then you accuses somebody who didn't commit the crime. That isn't fair, and isn't good for his reputation. Next to that, you certainly can't do anything about it, so posting is unnecessary. Finally, it only provokes a fight, which is against the GTAForums.com rules.

We are glad that you want to help us. If you are doing it by using this policy, we will appreciate it. For us, the worst thing you can do in the modding forums, is stealing a mod. But accusing someone that didn't steal the mod, is second.
Any accusation that is done on the forums, and not reported to a member of staff in the correct way. Will be ignored, only accusations reported by the correct method will be dealt with.

These rules are in place for the general health of the GTA modding community. They exist for the sole purpose of helping the community prosper and expand.


Staff note - changes to the rules should be discussed beforehand. So take it up in the appropriate place first, before moving or deleting any topics relating to the rules.
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