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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:20 AM

Here's a cool way of playing GTAIV and TLAD that I thought of. You will need two seperate save files. First start a game as Niko, then at the approprite time in the story (I think right after the Uncle Vlad mission is the perfect time) start a TLAD game. Then play through the various missions and switch back and forth. Now this can be tricky as they intersect a bit... but based on all the events in both games as well as the radio/internet news reports in TLAD I came up with this order that keeps things more or less chronological. In the following list the TLAD missions are listed in red . Pretty sure everything is in an order that works in regards to when the missions open up, but if there are any mistakes just let me know.

The Cousins Bellic
It's Your Call
Three's a Crowd
Bleed Out
First Date
Easy Fare
Bull in a China Shop
Hung Out to Dry
Clean Getaway
Ivan the Not So Terrible
Jamaican Heat
Uncle Vlad
Clean and Serene
Angels in America
Concrete Jungle
Crime and Punishment
Do You Have Protection?
Final Destination
No Love Lost
Itís War
Shadow
Logging On
Rigged to Blow
The Master and the Molotov
Russian Revolution
Roman's Sorrow
Liberty City Choppers
Action/Reaction
Bad Cop Drop
Escuela of the Streets
Street Sweeper
Search and Delete
Easy as Can Be
Out of the Closet
No. 1
Luck of the Irish
Buyerís Market
Blow Your Cover
Politics
Coming Down
Off Route
This sh*tís Cursed
Deconstruction for Beginners
The Puerto Rican Connection
The Snow Storm
Call and Collect
Final Interview
Hit the Pipe
Heavy Toll
Marta Full of Grace
Shifting Weight
Have a Heart
Ruff Rider
Undress to Kill
End of Chapter
Bad Standing
Romanís Holiday
Photo Shoot
Wrong is Right
The Holland Play
Hostile Negotiation
Portrait of a Killer
Dust Off
Paper Trail
Holland Nights
Lure
Harboring a Grudge
Waste Not Want Knots
Three Leaf Clover
A Long Way to Fall
Diamonds in the Rough
Taking in the Trash
Meltdown
Museum Piece
Collectorís Item
Was it Worth it?
No Way on the Subway
Weekend at Florian's
Late Checkout
Get Lost
Actions Speak Louder than Words
I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots, and Your Motorcycle
Smackdown
Babysitting
Tunnel of Death
Blood Brothers
Undertaker
Hating the Haters
Union Drive
Buoys Ahoy
I'll Take Her
Ransom
She's A Keeper
Diamonds are a Girl's Best Friend
Truck Hustle
Pegorino's Pride
Payback
Catch the Wave
Trespass
To Live and Die in Alderney
Flat Line
Pest Control
Entourage
Dining Out
Liquidize the Assets
That Special Someone
One Last Thing

Deal:
If the Price is Right
Mr. and Mrs. Bellic
A Revengerís Tragedy

Revenge:
A Dish Served Cold
Mr. and Mrs. Bellic
Out of Commission

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:05 AM

cookie.gif for Hannah Montana reference. Other than that, good stuff man.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 10:20 AM Edited by II J0SePh X II, 04 June 2009 - 06:39 PM.

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GRAND THEFT AUTO IV: Episodes of Liberty City Playthru.

The following is a guide to playing through GTA IV plus DLC packs The Lost and Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony (TBC) at the same time, which leads the player through the great stories, and intense action in (to date) the best video game ever created.

Chapter 1: Off the Boat

Roman The Cousins Bellic. It`s Your Call. Three`s A Crowd. First Date. Bleed Out. Easy Fare. Jamaican Heat.
Vlad Bull in a China Shop. Hung Out to Dry. Clean Getaway. Ivan the Not So Terrible.
Little Jacob Concrete Jungle.
Roman Uncle Vlad
Faustin Crime and Punishment. Do You Have Protection?
Little Jacob Shadow
Faustin Final Destination.
Billy Grey Clean and Serene. Angels In America.
Faustin No Love Lost. Rigged to Blow.
Roman Logging On
Dimitri The Master and the Molotov
Brucie Search and Delete. Easy As Can Be.
Dimitri Russian Revolution
Roman Roman`s Sorrow

Chapter 2: One Percenter

Manny Escuela of the Streets.
Brucie Out of the Closet Part: 1
Manny Street Sweeper.
Elizabeta Luck of the Irish.
Brucie Out of the Closet. Part: 2. No. 1
Jim Fitzgerald Liberty City Choppers.
Billy Grey It`s War. Action/Reaction
Jim Fitzgerald Bad Cop Drop.
Elizabeta Buyer`s Market.
Elizabeta Blow Your Cover.
Playboy X Deconstruction for beginners.
Manny The Puerto Rican Connection.
Francis McReary Call and Collect. Final Interview: Part 1
Playboy X Photo Shoot
Dwayne Ruff Rider. Undress to Kill.
Francis McReary Final Interview: Part 2.
Stubbs Politics. Off Route
Ashley Coming Down
Billy Grey This sh*t`s Cursed.



Chapter 3. Full Chat

Jim Fitzgerald Hit The Pipe. End of Chapter. Bad Standing.
Elizabeta Heavy Toll. Marta Full of Grace. Shifting weight.
Ashley Roman`s Holiday
Elizabeta The Snow Storm
Playboy X/Dwayne The Holland Play.
Francis McReary Holland Nights. Lure.
Elizabeta Have A Heart.
U. L. Paper Wrong Is Right. Portrait of a Killer
Roman Hostile Negotiation.

Chapter 4. Impossible Trinity

Packie McReary Harbouring a Grudge. Waste Not Want Knots.
Ray Boccino A Long Way to Fall.
U. L. Paper Dust Off
Packie McReary Three Leaf Clover.
U. L. Paper Paper Trail
Ray Boccino Diamonds in the Rough.
Ray Boccino Taking in the Trash. Meltdown.
Ray Boccino Collectors Item.
Ray Boccino Museum Piece. No Way on the Subway. Weekend at Florian`s.
Ray Boccino Was It Worth It?
Stubbs Get Lost.

Chapter 5. Gracefully Taken

Gerry McReary Actions Speak Louder Than Words. I Need Your Clothes, Your Boots and Your Motorcycle
Derrick McReary Smackdown. Babysitting. Tunnel of Death.
Bernie Crane Hating the Haters. Union Drive.
Ray Boccino Late Checkout.
Bernie Crane Buoys Ahoy
Francis McReary Blood Brothers.
Packie McReary Undertaker
Gerry McReary I`ll Take Her
Phill Bell Truck Hustle
Gerry McReary Ransom
Jimmy P Pegorino`s Pride
Gerry McReary She`s a Keeper. Diamonds Are a Girl`s Best Friend.

Chapter 6. Finish Him

Jimmy P Payback.
Phill Bell Catch the Wave. Tresspass. To Live and Die in Alderney.
Jimmy P Flatline.
Jon Gravelli Entourage. Dining Out.
Jimmy P Pest Control
Jon Gravelli Liquidize the Assets.
U. L. Paper That Special Someone
Finale:
Deal If the Price Is Right. Mr. & Mrs. Bellic. A Revenger`s Tragedy.
Revenge A Dish Served Cold. Mr. & Mrs Bellic. Out of Commission.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:28 AM

QUOTE (MC_320 @ Mar 6 2009, 09:05)
cookie.gif for Hannah Montana reference. Other than that, good stuff man.

Ditto that, I <3 Miley with all my cawk.

Anyway, I'll have to try that sometime, well thought out.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 05:16 PM

Yea, man, I'm gonna do something like this for the next episode.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 05:58 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 22 May 2013 - 12:26 PM.

I have prepared my own list that I think is more accurate. Here it is:

[R] The Cousins Bellic
[R] It's Your Call
[R] Three's a Crowd
[R] Bleed Out
[M] First Date
[R] Easy Fare
[R] Jamaican Heat
[LJ] Concrete Jungle
[V] Bull In a China Shop
[V] Hung Out to Dry
[V] Clean Getaway
[V] Ivan the Not So Terrible
[V] Uncle Vlad
[MF] Crime and Punishment
[MF] Do You Have Protection?
[LJ] Shadow
[B] Clean and Serene *
[MF] Final Destination
[B] Angels In America *
[MF] No Love Lost [+]
[R] Logging On
[J] Liberty City Choppers
[MF] Rigged to Blow
[J] Bad Cop Drop
[DR]The Master and the Molotov
[DR] Russian Revolution
[R] Roman's Sorrow
[B] It's War *
[ME] Escuela of the Streets
[ME] Street Sweeper
[B] Action/Reaction
[E] Luck of the Irish
[E] Buyer's Market
[E] Blow Your Cover
[BK] Search and Delete
[BK] Easy As Can Be
[S] Politics
[BK] Out of the Closet
[A] Coming Down
[BK] No. 1
[ME] The Puerto Rican Connection
[S] Off Route
[FMC] Call and Collect
[FMC] Final Interview
[B] This sh*t's Cursed *
[FMC] Holland Nights
[J] Hit the Pipe
[FMC] Lure
[E] Heavy Toll *
[E] The Snow Storm
[E] Marta Full Of Grace *
[E] Have a Heart
[E] Shifting Weight *
[PMC] Harboring a Grudge
[PMC] Waste Not Want Knots
[PMC] Three Leaf Clover
[J] End of Chapter
[X] Deconstruction for Beginners
[D] Ruff Rider
[J] Bad Standing
[D] Undress to Kill
[A] Roman's Holiday *
[X] Photo Shoot
[R] Hostile Negotiation [-]
[X/D] The Holland Play
[RB] A Long Way to Fall
[RB] Diamonds In the Rough
[RB] Taking In the Trash [-]
[RB] Meltdown
[RB] Collector's Item
[RB] Museum Piece [-]
[RB] Was It Worth It?
[RB] No Way on the Subway
[RB] Late Checkout
[RB] Weekend at Florian's
[S] Get Lost
[GMC] Actions Speak Louder than Words
[GMC] I Need Your Clothes, Yours Boots and Your Motorcycle
[DMC] Smackdown
[DMC] Babysitting
[DMC] Tunnel of Death
[FMC] Blood Brothers
[PMC] Undertaker
[ULP] Wrong Is Right
[ULP] Portrait of a Killer
[ULP] Dust Off
[ULP] Paper Trail
[BC] Hating the Haters
[BC] Union Drive
[BC] Buoy's Ahoy
[PB] Truck Hustle
[JP] Pegorino's Pride
[GMC] I'll Take Her
[JP] Payback
[PMC] Ransom
[PB] Catch the Wave
[GMC] She's A Keeper
[PB] Trespass
[PB] To Live and Die In Alderney
[GMC] Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend
[JP] Flatline
[JP] Pest Control
[G] Entourage
[G] Dining Out
[G] Liquidize the Assets
[ULP] That Special Someone
[JP] One Last Thing
[DR] If the Price Is Right / A Dish Served Cold
[R] Mr. & Mrs. Bellic
[LJ] A Revenger's Tragedy / Out of Commission

Explainations

* Clean and Serene: The story of Billy Grey being released from Prison appears on the net after this Mission as well as Final Destination in Niko's story.

* Angels In America: We know that it occurs before No Love Lost because Jason is still alive. And he also says he is going to see Faustin's Daughter over on Firefly Island so that would indicate that it is just before "No Love Lost".

* It's War: The story describing the Arson Attacks on the Appartment and Cab Office appears on the Net after this Mission.

* This sh*t's Cursed: Happens roughly about the same time as the second part of Final Interview because the story of Goldberg's Murder is on the internet when checked after this Mission.

* Heavy Toll: The Coke used for the deal that Leads to "The Snow Storm" is Stolen during this mission then stashed in preparation for the deal which would likely take a day or so to set up.

* Marta Full of Grace: I estimate that while Johnny is gone to the airport, Niko comes in to Elizabeta's Apartment to begin the Mission Have a heart. The reason for this is at the start of Marta Full Of Grace, Elizabeta is on edge and is drinking and snorting cocaine in both scenes, possibly to deal with the stress of the cops being onto her after The Snow Storm. This then leads her to Kill Manny and his cameraman in a paranoid rage.

* Shifting Weight: I estimate this happens after Have A Heart because Elizabeta seems a lot calmer than before. It also seems logical that she would send Johnny and Malc to sell the last bit of coke to get it out of the house before the cops come to arrest her and also to make themselves some money from it as a way of saying thank you for helping her out. After the mission she calls Johnny and tells him to stay away from her, likely because she doesn't want the cops to link him to her and get taken down.

* Roman's Holiday: This is a precursor for the Mission "Hostile Negotiation" but we know it happens around about the same time as Photo Shoot because Mallorie Calls Niko to say that Roman is missing shortly after Niko completes this mission (Photo Shoot). She then calls back a while later (several in-game hours) and confirms that he has been kidnapped which automaticly starts Hostile Negotiation.

- There are also several Missions (without * symbols beside them) that could take place anytime between two set missions i.e. they need to be completed before moving on. For these missions I just placed them in in the middle of a group of Niko missions in order to break up the list as I could see no other way of doing it.

The rest of the missions I think are self explanitory.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (II J0SePh X II @ Mar 6 2009, 10:20)
Nice work man, I was going to do the exact same thing but I`m just too lazy.

BTW Gracies pink Felzer is on the driveway during a mission and I can`t remember which one, Aaaargh. Also there`s skid marks from the peel-out at the beginning of the car chase in the "Payback" mission. They`re outside the diner. Not checked that out tho, I read it on a IV references thread.

I would have done "Get Lost" just before "Pest Control" because of what Stubbsy says in the cutscene, put a mish between "Blood Brothers" and "Undertaker". "Shadow" before "Final Destination".

I`m gonna stop now and post my own version in a bit.

First off... I'm I the only one that doesn't understand what any of this has to do with hannah montana???

Anyways as far as Stubbs talking about Ray getting taken out he says within a month... so I don't really see any need to move "Get Lost" closer to "Pest Control," but there's no reason you couldn't wait until right before "Pest Control" to do "Get Lost" if that's what you wanted to do. As far as between "Blood Brothers" and "Undertaker" My feeling is that they always take place a while later in the story when I play IV... after I feel like all of Johnny's events occur. Ofcourse depending on how you play they could occur more in the middle of IV. The other thing though is that I did my best not to have just one random Johnny mission in between Niko missions... I tried to put a few Johnny missions where possible. In regards to "Shadow" and "Final Destination," I just listed the missions (for the most part) in the order that they were on gta4.net's missions list. One thing I did change was when Niko kills Goldberg and when Elizabeta is arrested; according to their list these occur in reverse order of TLAD (where you hear the story of Niko killing Goldberg on Weasel News long before Elizabeta gets taken down). But for these two missions ("Shadow" and "Final Destination") I don't see any conflict of timeline if you reverse them, and I believe they are both open at the same time.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:26 PM

You know what I've wondered; does Gerry escape the penitentiary when you break into it with Johnny and the crew?

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:27 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 06 March 2009 - 11:31 PM.

The Hannah Montana reference is in the Title "Best of both worlds" Hannah montana aka Miley Cyrus has a Tour called Best Of Both Worlds and also a cd of the same name.

The name derives from how she performs songs as Hannah montana and as herself (Miley Cyrus) performing hits such as "See You Again" among others.

I really know too much about this don't I haha lol.gif

Talk about starting off on the wrong foot colgate.gif

And to Gamesguru: No I don't think he does. Because going by the sequence of events
the jailbreak happens before he even goes in.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 12:35 PM

i have just noticed that To Live and Die in Alderney is a copy of to live and die in LA

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE (gamesguru @ Mar 6 2009, 23:26)
You know what I've wondered; does Gerry escape the penitentiary when you break into it with Johnny and the crew?

Aw sh*t, wonder if Phil McCrevis, Richard Head, Seymore Fani and Isaac Hunt survived "Get Lost", hope so.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 05:19 PM

No they all died. Isaac's brother Mike Hunt survived though although his life is empty and boring now as he just gets used by complete idiots with lots of money for menial tasks smile.gif

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 02:50 AM

QUOTE (MC_320 @ Mar 6 2009, 03:05)
cookie.gif for Hannah Montana reference. Other than that, good stuff man.

She's just terrible!

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 09:28 AM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Mar 7 2009, 17:19)
No they all died. Isaac's brother Mike Hunt survived though although his life is empty and boring now as he just gets used by complete idiots with lots of money for menial tasks smile.gif

who're you on about.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 08:28 PM

Just a bit of humour man

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 08:35 PM

who are they though?.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (sam33 @ Mar 8 2009, 20:35)
who are they though?.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Mar 7 2009, 17:19)
No they all died. Isaac's brother Mike Hunt survived though although his life is empty and boring now as he just gets used by complete idiots with lots of money for menial tasks smile.gif

Mike Hunt is really sore.

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 10:28 PM

QUOTE (II J0SePh X II @ Mar 8 2009, 22:09)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Mar 7 2009, 17:19)
No they all died. Isaac's brother Mike Hunt survived though although his life is empty and boring now as he just gets used by complete idiots with lots of money for menial tasks  smile.gif

Mike Hunt is really sore.

At Least somebody gets it colgate.gif

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Mar 6 2009, 23:27)
The Hannah Montana reference is in the Title "Best of both worlds"

It could also be a Van Halen reference, or a Midnight Oil reference.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 01:19 PM Edited by Guanxi, 20 March 2009 - 04:08 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2009 - 03:36 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 28 May 2009 - 10:31 PM.

List Moved to Page 1 upon Request.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:06 AM

I've just started playing both GTA IV and TLAD in parallel and after a lot of thinking I finally believe I've come up with the best possible way of pacing the stories while taking into account all the prerequisites listed in the guides and I thought i'd share this for anybody interested in playing GTA IV/TLAD in this way:

The Cousins Bellic
It's Your Call
Three's a Crowd
Clean and Serene
First Date
Bleed Out
Easy Fare
Angels In America
Jamaican Heat
Concrete Jungle
Shadow
Liberty City Choppers
Bull In a China Shop
Hung Out to Dry
Clean Getaway
Ivan the Not So Terrible
Uncle Vlad
Bad Cop Drop
Crime and Punishment
Do You Have Protection?
Final Destination
No Love Lost
It's War
Rigged to Blow
The Master and the Molotov
Russian Revolution
Roman's Sorrow
Action/Reaction
Escuela of the Streets
Street Sweeper
Luck of the Irish
Buyer's Market
Blow Your Cover
The Puerto Rican Connection
Politics
Logging On
Search and Delete
Coming Down
Easy As Can Be
Out of the Closet
Off Route
Deconstruction for Beginners
Photo Shoot
Hit the Pipe
Ruff Rider
Undress to Kill
This sh*ts Cursed
The Holland Play
No. 1
Heavy Toll
Call and Collect
Final Interview
Marta Full of Grace
Holland Nights
Lure
The Snow Storm
Shifting Weight
Have a Heart
Wrong Is Right
Portrait of a Killer
End of Chapter
Dust Off
Paper Trail
Bad Standing
Harboring a Grudge
Waste Not Want Knots
Three Leaf Clover
Roman's Holiday
Hostile Negotiation
A Long Way to Fall
Diamonds In the Rough
Taking In the Trash
Meltdown
Museum Piece
Collector's Item
Was It Worth It?
No Way on the Subway
Get Lost
Weekend at Florian's
Late Checkout
Actions Speak Louder than Words
I Need Your Clothes, Yours Boots, and Your Motorcycle
Smackdown
Babysitting
Tunnel of Death
Hating the Haters
Union Drive
Buoy's Ahoy
Bryce's Infernus
Blood Brothers
Undertaker
I'll Take Her
Ransom
She's a Keeper
Diamond's Are a Girls Best Friend
Truck Hustle
Pegorino's Pride
Payback
Catch the Wave
Trespass
To Live and Die In Alderney
Flat Line
Pest Control
Entourage
Dining Out
Liquidize the Assets
That Special Someone
If the Price Is Right
Mr. & Mrs. Bellic
A Revenger's Tragedy
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A Dish Served Cold
Mr. & Mrs. Bellic
Out of Commission

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:30 AM

So which one is more plausible?

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 07:00 PM Edited by Money Over Bullshit, 23 March 2009 - 11:36 PM.

I think Gaunxi's list is pretty plausable seeing as though the missions are spread out more and there are no major gaps in Johnny missions. I think that biggest difference was that I went on if you play all of each person's missions one after another. The only thing I think that's wrong though is that Gerry's second mission set should take place closer to the end i.e after Phil Bell's missions and Jimmy Peg's first set.

I would really have to play TLAD again though to make a proper judgement.

EDIT: I've updated my list

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 07:08 PM

To really nail it down someone would have to play through with obsessive attention to dialog and make a point of checking all the radio and internet news after every mission, and make sure every chronological event is noted before proceeding with the next mission. Taking notes and making lists would be necessary to make sure it all adds up without contradiction.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 03:39 PM

Here's Something I noticed. At the end of "It's War" Billy tells the guys about Jason then when you do the Liberty City Choppers mission you hear about it on the radio (Well I did) yet when you do It's war and check The Liberty Tree directly after it they've already broken the story about the Apartment and cab depot going on fire. This would suggest that either the radio lets you know about Jason before Billy does or that The Liberty Tree reports the arson attack before it happens. The only other explaination is that Niko starts and finishes working for Mikhail Faustin all in the one day which I think is not only very unlikely but Impossible.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 10:27 PM

QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Mar 21 2009, 09:39)
Here's Something I noticed. At the end of "It's War" Billy tells the guys about Jason then when you do the Liberty City Choppers mission you hear about it on the radio (Well I did) yet when you do It's war and check The Liberty Tree directly after it they've already broken the story about the Apartment and cab depot going on fire. This would suggest that either the radio lets you know about Jason before Billy does or that The Liberty Tree reports the arson attack before it happens. The only other explaination is that Niko starts and finishes working for Mikhail Faustin all in the one day which I think is not only very unlikely but Impossible.

The real-time experience of gameplay can't be logically reconciled with the time-lapse game clock so it's tricky to say when things happen and impossible to say how long they "really" take. There's only before and after. TLAD is shorter than IV so several Niko events must happen for every Johnny event. If any TLAD missions got cancelled during development, some of the intersection points could have got screwed up.

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (Magic_Al @ Mar 21 2009, 22:27)
QUOTE (Money Over Bullsh*t @ Mar 21 2009, 09:39)
Here's Something I noticed. At the end of "It's War" Billy tells the guys about Jason then when you do the Liberty City Choppers mission you hear about it on the radio (Well I did) yet when you do It's war and check The Liberty Tree directly after it they've already broken the story about the Apartment and cab depot going on fire. This would suggest that either the radio lets you know about Jason before Billy does or that The Liberty Tree reports the arson attack before it happens. The only other explaination is that Niko starts and finishes working for Mikhail Faustin all in the one day which I think is not only very unlikely but Impossible.

The real-time experience of gameplay can't be logically reconciled with the time-lapse game clock so it's tricky to say when things happen and impossible to say how long they "really" take. There's only before and after. TLAD is shorter than IV so several Niko events must happen for every Johnny event. If any TLAD missions got cancelled during development, some of the intersection points could have got screwed up.

You make a good point but I think what this guy is trying to do is just make a general sequence of events in order to be able to play the game in the order it was intended to be with both stories mixed together. Most of the spots in the list for the missions are easy enough to determine by checking the internet regularly. The only problem is establishing when TLAD actually starts i think because that determines the placing for all the other missions.

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 05:04 PM

Sorry for the double post but I've updated my list and I'm pretty sure that now its the most accurate it can be. I have also included explainations on why certain missions happen when they do.

I went through the whole of The Lost and Damned checking the internet after every mission and listening to the radio as well as looking carefully at the cutscenes So I'm Pretty Confident about it.

Perhaps Mafioso86 could put it on the first page of this topic so that people see it as the definitive list when they go into this topic rather than going through all the posts. If so that would be great colgate.gif




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