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#31

Posted 04 March 2009 - 02:27 PM

Well, there could be a slight chance but...
I see no chances of his death, Sal's the closest one, There is a good time hole of 9-8 years between them(8 because since WHEN was there snow in Summer?),
so Toni could kill CJ, but I ain't sure that he could get too close to him to do it.

Also...
Isn't there a burned Salvatore's mansion in North Alderny in GTAIV?
Also ain't is there a commercial of CJ skydiving in GTAIV?

(PS: I'm not sure about that egg, I readed it on the egg archive, but I don't have GTA IV so... confused.gif )

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:17 PM

Damn noobs, he had surgery operations like Michael Jackson, he wanted to be white guy, and went to carcer city, where everything happen with Starkweather's help.

Hope you understand what i'm saying now sly.gif

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (lc11 @ Mar 2 2009, 18:09)
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think they killed Big Bear but I don't know why


Nah, they took Big Bear to a rehab.

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Well, Claude whacked Salvatore on his own. And the Leone's still couldn't do anything afterward, how would the "most powerful" family let someone who killed their don and a couple of their more skilled soldiers go away that simple? And no matter what Sal did in return I doubt Carl is so weak to get killed by them... besides he would respawn at the nearest hospital, lol!


But yea, if Claude killed Sal with a single sniper shot, then CJ would be capable of dealing an entire town filled with mob mebers with help from GSF, Aztecas and The Triads...

...Not to mention CIA Agents from Toreno, he owes CJ. I highly doubt that Sal's men would even try to touch CJ, Sal was killed
way back in 2001, by now the Leone Crime Family would have deteriorated to the point of extinction.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 09:14 PM

Yes, but there are still 9 years from SAs ending and his death

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:50 AM

Actually Rockstar never said all the characters were dead, or that GTA IV made them be dead. Dan Houser said exactly, "Anyway, most of the characters we liked were dead," the word "were" referring to the on-screen deaths of characters like Salvatore and Tenpenny. They didn't kill anybody off-screen to make way for GTA IV.

Personally I think it's just a rule that a main player character never returns for a sequel because his "life" is handed over to the player at the end of each story. You can free-roam forever and Rockstar will never reclaim control of the character. Claude, Tommy and CJ are still alive, just open up your story-complete save files in those games if you don't believe me.

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#36

Posted 08 April 2009 - 07:16 AM

I'm sure these people are trying to say that the protagonists were dead during what year,not what computer.Well,no more arguing.


Back to the topic:
CJ may be dead or alive(during the year gta 4,the latest gta game took place.).But who cares??What matters is that CJ completed his story.That means there will be no more trouble except the gang wars,the electricity bill and every routine activity.Because it's all over,CJ has a peaceful life.

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Posted 08 April 2009 - 09:47 PM Edited by Sergi, 08 April 2009 - 09:50 PM.

I'm pretty sure CJ is probably running his empire to this day. He probably over sees the Families orginization across the U.S. and is looked up upon but I doubt he'd be directly involved anymore. I think by now he'd probably have some sort of entertainment empire as well with Mad Dogg, his casinos and the such and he probably expanded into much larger fields. Not to mention he owns that air strip in the Badlands so who knows. CJ at the end of SA became the most powerful protagonist in the GTA series as of now because he was involved in more then 1 field of income.

Also to those saying they think Sal killed CJ lets' be serious. CJ has Triads, Families, CIA, Las Azteca and so on on his side not to mention a fortune and a huge empire. Also the Leone Family is extremely weak by 1998 and couldn't even beat street gangs like the Diablos and by 2001 they are far from the most powerful orginization in LC so I seriously doubt Sal would have the resources or man power to even have attempted to get at CJ. If Sal didn't have CJ killed by 2001 which I doubt he did then the Leone's would never kill CJ because once Sal is killed I doubt avenging a huge heist from nearly a decade ago would have been on the new don of the family's mind especially how weak they were. And Toni killed a "Made Guy" when he went into hiding so he more then likely killed an opposing Mafioso from another family.

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#38

Posted 09 April 2009 - 07:37 AM Edited by Miamivicecity, 09 April 2009 - 07:55 AM.

QUOTE (Sergi @ Apr 9 2009, 08:47)
Also to those saying they think Sal killed CJ lets' be serious. CJ has Triads, Families, CIA, Las Azteca and so on on his side not to mention a fortune and a huge empire. Also the Leone Family is extremely weak by 1998 and couldn't even beat street gangs like the Diablos and by 2001 they are far from the most powerful orginization in LC so I seriously doubt Sal would have the resources or man power to even have attempted to get at CJ. If Sal didn't have CJ killed by 2001 which I doubt he did then the Leone's would never kill CJ because once Sal is killed I doubt avenging a huge heist from nearly a decade ago would have been on the new don of the family's mind especially how weak they were. And Toni killed a "Made Guy" when he went into hiding so he more then likely killed an opposing Mafioso from another family.

Yeah, but Sal could've organized a hit on CJ not long after CJ screwed him over. There's a 6 year gap between SA, and LCS. Plenty could've happened in that time.

It's not like CJ was the most powerful criminal in the world. He could've been hanging out at a bar or something, and some random assassin ordered by Sal could've put a bullet in his head.

At the end of the day though we'll never know what happened to CJ. I still think he got killed by Salvatore. Well not Salvatore himself, but a hired gun. That's my belief anyway.

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Posted 09 April 2009 - 07:28 PM

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Apr 9 2009, 07:37)
QUOTE (Sergi @ Apr 9 2009, 08:47)
Also to those saying they think Sal killed CJ lets' be serious. CJ has Triads, Families, CIA, Las Azteca and so on on his side not to mention a fortune and a huge empire. Also the Leone Family is extremely weak by 1998 and couldn't even beat street gangs like the Diablos and by 2001 they are far from the most powerful orginization in LC so I seriously doubt Sal would have the resources or man power to even have attempted to get at CJ. If Sal didn't have CJ killed by 2001 which I doubt he did then the Leone's would never kill CJ because once Sal is killed I doubt avenging a huge heist from nearly a decade ago would have been on the new don of the family's mind especially how weak they were. And Toni killed a "Made Guy" when he went into hiding so he more then likely killed an opposing Mafioso from another family.

Yeah, but Sal could've organized a hit on CJ not long after CJ screwed him over. There's a 6 year gap between SA, and LCS. Plenty could've happened in that time.

It's not like CJ was the most powerful criminal in the world. He could've been hanging out at a bar or something, and some random assassin ordered by Sal could've put a bullet in his head.

At the end of the day though we'll never know what happened to CJ. I still think he got killed by Salvatore. Well not Salvatore himself, but a hired gun. That's my belief anyway.

Yea... No explenations...
But what about those wich played the game so long that the 6 year gap is gone?

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Posted 10 April 2009 - 03:20 AM

when rockstar says that they are dead it means that they are dead history. it really does not mean that cj is really dead! besides i don't recall seeing any RIP next to carl's name.

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Posted 11 April 2009 - 12:29 AM

If they ever do a SA:Stories set in the future. I would like to see CJ as a relaxed older rich guy and still in control.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 04:28 AM

To the Salvatore having CJ whacked, I don't think Toni did it, because Toni killed a Made Man, in other words, a member of the Sindacco or Forelli Families. But while Toni was in hiding, Vincenzo Cilli could've killed CJ and became Capo because of it.

But does it matter? SA and the III era are over, let's focus on the present. I wonder what Niko, Johnny, and Huang are up to now?

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 08:24 PM

I'm willing to bet that sweet will be dead.
CJ should be pretty rich and most likely feared on the streets. Maybe he might be known as the most dangerous gangster Los Santos has ever seen, so no one will mess with him.

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Posted 12 April 2009 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE (Benjimino234 @ Apr 11 2009, 00:29)
If they ever do a SA:Stories set in the future. I would like to see CJ as a relaxed older rich guy and still in control.

I somehow find amusing to think CJ as looking wealthy because the point of the story is how he somehow belong to grove street (even though he got millions of dollars), kinda funny imaging him stack up millions of dollar while he lives in a low-income home

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 01:58 PM

Well you remember at the last cutscene where they were celebrating. Well the GSF just got back on their feet so CJ will be there supporting them, supplying them better guns since he had been travelling around San Andreas and he bound to have miniguns, RPGs and some other sh*ts. Also he would help Woozie runs the casino, helping Cesar help his gang too. I don't think CJ will ever change, he is just the best GTA character ever existed <3.

Salvatore wouldn't have a chance to kill CJ, maybe he is the Don of the Mafia, one of the most powerful gangs in the world. But CJ have some good connections and business too and also he has the Triads, one of the most powerful gangs in the world too, and also he has the Groves and Aztecas as well, plus CIA Agents following with Toreno and some other people he met. The Truth would have all the guns to supply within all the gangs as well. CJ is unbeatable.

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Posted 25 April 2009 - 08:31 PM

I think that while standing discreetly at the back of the crowd at Big Smoke's funeral, CJ would have suddenly remembered that in all the excitement since the start of the game, he had completely forgotten to bury his mother. panic.gif

In a fit of remorse he would have slapped Sweet upside da head for spending the funeral money on buying the same dumbass car as the one he had before prison, and CJ would then have retired to Whetstone to write bad poetry. And make crank calls to Catalina.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 02:22 AM

Uhm... I think you forgot the beginning of the game. When CJ with bro & sis were at the GraveSite?

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 03:00 AM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Feb 28 2009, 14:51)
dozingoff.gif You mean like 37 years old?
Fat and cool.gif balding.
Living with Millie on that farm south of San Fiero and they've got two kids. tounge2.gif

Oh yeah... Truth would be his partner farming the weed.

well, if you were to assume that carl acted like the way we control him, millie is already dead. carl will never have kids. they would be freakin scary. what happens with our carl is he murders a couple hundred thousand people. but realisticly, i imagine that he is quite wealthy and just enjoys his life. he owns property all over the place and he would have nice cars. i still think he would always be single though regardless

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 03:23 AM

QUOTE (d.nivatkar @ Mar 1 2009, 16:58)
[b]Probably assassinated by government agents (specifically the Agency whose members were killed in Stowaway) for stealing a Jetpack from a military base

good point. you are the only one who took into consideration the fact that some federal agency could be after him! thats worse than having the mafia on you IMO

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 10:42 AM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Apr 26 2009, 02:22)
Uhm... I think you forgot the beginning of the game. When CJ with bro & sis were at the GraveSite?

No I didn't forget that, and I've just played it again to check. In the opening cutscene CJ says "I'm here to bury my moms". There is a grave in the Sweet & Kendl cutscene, but if you go back to it instead of cycling off to do the mission, the grave is open, and empty (you can walk over it though! - but check the parallax, the ground is transparent). Nobody's dressed for a funeral, and nobody else is present to perform one. So the way I read it is that they've gone to see the grave in preparation for the funeral - which I'm pretty sure isn't actually referenced in the game again. And if you revisit Los Sepulcros much later in the game, the grave is still exactly the same...

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 10:48 AM

Probably just hanging out, killing gangs

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Posted 27 April 2009 - 02:28 PM

I do want to see him return for sure. lol.gif

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Posted 29 April 2009 - 03:46 PM

Sweet realizes that without Caesar that the GSF would be a dead end and allows him to marry Kendl. CJ continues to manage Madd Dogg. OG Loc gets gunned down like Tupac. And everyone lives out there life in sucess.

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Posted 30 April 2009 - 03:33 PM

Cj proboly went in to the epslon program ph34r.gif

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Apr 9 2009, 07:37)
[QUOTE=Sergi,Apr 9 2009, 08:47] I still think he got killed by Salvatore. Well not Salvatore himself, but a hired gun. That's my belief anyway.

Mine too. The Mafia never forgets. No way Sal let's CJ's betrayal slide.

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 08:31 PM

It's a good point people are making about the government agents C.J killed. Even Mike Toreno couldn't hold them back and maybe they plotted with Sal to have CJ killed in a car bombing or a they could've sent a massive htisquad of government guys and mobsters to kill him.

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Posted 11 June 2013 - 09:03 PM

I say CJ became the owner of the casino after Wu-Zi gets killed. Then later on in the years, he is killed by a Balla uprising. But he has a son jist before, named......... Lamal. Makes sence.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:25 AM

Thanks for bumping this old thread...

BTW: Rockstar said Claude isn't dead, basically denying that the graffiti in IV meant that the characters were presently dead. They just won't reappear in the current generations.

There aren't any clues as to what CJ would be doing for the rest of his life. It's possible that he is dead, because Salvatore threatened to have him killed.

I think he moved to another town. There's not much you can do in a state where the police and gangs are your enemy. There wasn't much left for him in San Andreas.

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 04:35 AM

QUOTE (Bucky914 @ Wednesday, Jun 12 2013, 04:25)
There aren't any clues as to what CJ would be doing for the rest of his life. It's possible that he is dead, because Salvatore threatened to have him killed.

Once Tenpenny was dead who's to say the cops were still after CJ? sly.gif
Clues? Look at all the a$$ets CJ acquired during his reign of terror...
The question I would have is did CJ and Millie continue their relationship... I hope so... inlove.gif

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 05:51 AM

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Wednesday, Jun 12 2013, 11:35)
QUOTE (Bucky914 @ Wednesday, Jun 12 2013, 04:25)
There aren't any clues as to what CJ would be doing for the rest of his life. It's possible that he is dead, because Salvatore threatened to have him killed.

Once Tenpenny was dead who's to say the cops were still after CJ? sly.gif
Clues? Look at all the a$$ets CJ acquired during his reign of terror...
The question I would have is did CJ and Millie continue their relationship... I hope so... inlove.gif

But there is also a possibility that CJ killed Millie to acquire a keycard. Moreover R* gave the choice to us whether to continue the relationship or kill her..So relationship is actually unpredictable IMO.




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