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thales100
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#91

Posted 14 March 2009 - 02:21 AM

This mod is fantastic, GTA 4 looks even better with it. icon14.gif

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 04:40 AM

People who dont have this mod you dont understand what your missing out on seriously, continuously i'm amazed as i play at new things that i see that are amazing and look so real and detailed it literaly drops your jaw.
Props to kriller2 for making the mod and thales100 for continuous support!! ph34r.gif
Heres a couple more pics to wet your appetite:

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE (Krailer @ Mar 14 2009, 00:28)
This mod takes IV to a whole new level, simply amazing!

Everything is looking ace, except that during certain weather conditions in daytime, the water has this VC-like blue color... Is it supposed to look like this or is it a bug:

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Hi Krailer,
Can you tell me what time of day and how the weather setting was set when you saw this?

It might be a bug, it's difficult to test all weather conditions, because of how the engine uses the weather settings and creates the in betweens real time. f.ex if it's raining and the water is dark, then if the weather changes to sunny the water colour will change to the middle of blue and grey. etc. etc.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:18 AM

biggrin.gif I cant play GTA 4 w/o this mod, two more (click to 1680x1050) :

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#95

Posted 14 March 2009 - 12:03 PM

f*ck f*ck f*ck f*ck!
I dunno but the game looks like Crysis to me!!
Really beautiful and breathness!
Especially when its 07.00!
I love you man, (I aint gay)
The gameplay is smooth too, 24FS.
24FPS is good for me.

Can I have your permission
for the tymecyc.dat?
I do like to make a mod wich
its always morning in GTA4?
Maybe some pple also do like it.
Just only the permission for the timecyc.dat for always
morning.
07.00 or 08.00.

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#96

Posted 14 March 2009 - 02:43 PM

Hi Murcchachosa, thanks LOL Im glad you like the new gta4 environments smile.gif , you are welcome to make a mod which does that as long you give me the credits.
Go ahead I will probaly try the mod to tounge.gif

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (kriller2 @ Mar 14 2009, 14:43)
Hi Murcchachosa, thanks LOL Im glad you like the new gta4 environments smile.gif , you are welcome to make a mod which does that as long you give me the credits.
Go ahead I will probaly try the mod to tounge.gif

Cool man, thanks.
I go ahead and do the job.
Sure you got the credits.

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 05:56 PM

QUOTE (Krailer @ Mar 14 2009, 00:28)
This mod takes IV to a whole new level, simply amazing!

Everything is looking ace, except that during certain weather conditions in daytime, the water has this VC-like blue color... Is it supposed to look like this or is it a bug:

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My Water looks like this too! At 8 a Clock. Its too blue it must be more transparent

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Posted 14 March 2009 - 08:18 PM

I tried: It's good !
But I've VC water too and sometime when it's 6 PM the whole game is Black and White [don't know why].

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:40 AM

QUOTE (kriller2 @ Mar 14 2009, 09:00)
QUOTE (Krailer @ Mar 14 2009, 00:28)
This mod takes IV to a whole new level, simply amazing!

Everything is looking ace, except that during certain weather conditions in daytime, the water has this VC-like blue color... Is it supposed to look like this or is it a bug:

user posted image
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Hi Krailer,
Can you tell me what time of day and how the weather setting was set when you saw this?

It might be a bug, it's difficult to test all weather conditions, because of how the engine uses the weather settings and creates the in betweens real time. f.ex if it's raining and the water is dark, then if the weather changes to sunny the water colour will change to the middle of blue and grey. etc. etc.

I've noticed it when it's sunny weather, mostly during daytime. Here's a couple of screenshots taken in the morning and late afternoon:
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It's probably some a bug of some sort with sunny weather, because under rainy and foggy conditions it looks amazing.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:03 AM

No, its not a bug.
This happen when you use the FarClp 3500.
If you change the 3500 to 1500 (default), then it will be normal.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 02:02 AM

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 03:30 AM

Yea kriller2, you must edit the water. It looks really like Vice City and it's not good, the default LC water is much better smile.gif

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 07:11 AM

I tried using this mod, and it worked for the first minute then everything just lagged like crazy.

Even after turning down the texture quality to medium, it still lagged. I usually get 48-55fps average in the benchmark tool, this time I got 29fps. I even removed my commandline, which consisted of availablevidmem 1.3, noprecache and percentvidmem 100, and I only play at 1024x768 due to my CRT.

I dunno why, I followed the instructions in the .zip file.

Specs:
HD 4870 512MB
Phenom X4 9950@3Ghz
3.25GB RAM

Can anybody help?

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 11:04 AM

QUOTE (TheRealPcGamer @ Mar 15 2009, 03:30)
Yea kriller2, you must edit the water.

Kriller2, is it possible to have the "normal" water without losing any of the new env settings ?

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (thales100 @ Mar 15 2009, 11:04)
QUOTE (TheRealPcGamer @ Mar 15 2009, 03:30)
Yea kriller2, you must edit the water.

Kriller2, is it possible to have the "normal" water without losing any of the new env settings ?

Yes, its possible.
Open timecyc.dat with Word and replace all "3500" into "1500"

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 11:16 AM

QUOTE (Murcchachosa @ Mar 15 2009, 11:11)
Open timecyc.dat with Word and replace all "3500" into "1500"

lol no man, i want farclip 3500, ive played with it almost since GTA 4's release, and water was "normal" - just after installing the mod the water became blue, so i want to know if its possible to have the same mod's settings (including farclip 3500) plus "normal" water back. wink.gif

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Murcchachosa @ Mar 15 2009, 11:11)
QUOTE (thales100 @ Mar 15 2009, 11:04)
QUOTE (TheRealPcGamer @ Mar 15 2009, 03:30)
Yea kriller2, you must edit the water.

Kriller2, is it possible to have the "normal" water without losing any of the new env settings ?

Yes, its possible.
Open timecyc.dat with Word and replace all "3500" into "1500"

That kind of worked but still has an overly saturated colour like VC... Some hours it looks fine others it does not and spray goes from being white/grey to brown during some hours of the day cycle.

Its odd I think a new water texture might help with the new timecycle settings so the colours match/blend better as the original water texture is an odd grey/blue colour.

Any ideas people??

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 11:56 AM

Sh*t, you right thales.
The waterbug is the only one weird and strange problem.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 12:08 PM

I hope kriller2 fix the water problem on v3 update. smile.gif

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 02:44 PM

And I've got a suggestion: Could you change brown tree's LOD to the Greens' one biggrin.gif

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 06:02 PM

QUOTE (drytaffin @ Mar 15 2009, 14:44)
And I've got a suggestion: Could you change brown tree's LOD to the Greens' one biggrin.gif

I looked in all of the game files to find the files which control how the trees looks like and changed them, including the LOD's which it seems is in the gtxd.img "treelods.wtd", so they should be green now, but I can allso see the brown colour on the trees sometime whatsthat.gif , so :

A. There is one file I hadn't changed somewhere hiding.
B. GTA4 is going back to default LODS's when it runs out of cache.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 06:10 PM Edited by kriller2, 15 March 2009 - 06:27 PM.

QUOTE (thales100 @ Mar 15 2009, 11:04)
QUOTE (TheRealPcGamer @ Mar 15 2009, 03:30)
Yea kriller2, you must edit the water.

Kriller2, is it possible to have the "normal" water without losing any of the new env settings ?

Hi Thales, that's possible but then the realistic blue water will be gone and the brown colour of the water from stock GTA4 will come back.

The water around the new york harbour is in the blue/cyan colour sometimes:
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New York:
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Yea kriller2, you must edit the water. It looks really like Vice City and it's not good, the default LC water is much better  smile.gif


No I wont turn the water back to stock RealPcGameer smile.gif , but I can try to decrease the blue colour at special times of day and work some more on the water for a patch?

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 06:21 PM Edited by kriller2, 15 March 2009 - 06:31 PM.

QUOTE (Djwid63 @ Mar 15 2009, 07:11)
I tried using this mod, and it worked for the first minute then everything just lagged like crazy.

Even after turning down the texture quality to medium, it still lagged. I usually get 48-55fps average in the benchmark tool, this time I got 29fps. I even removed my commandline, which consisted of availablevidmem 1.3, noprecache and percentvidmem 100, and I only play at 1024x768 due to my CRT.

I dunno why, I followed the instructions in the .zip file.

Specs:
HD 4870 512MB
Phenom X4 9950@3Ghz
3.25GB RAM

Can anybody help?

Hi Djwid63,

That sounds like the new textures for the trees is not defragmented, read this thread about a program called contig.exe from Microsoft which is a defragment-tool that only defragment the part of your harddisk where the GTA4 is placed: Contig thread

Or you can try uninstall the mod and only copy the "timesyc.dat" to the "PC/data" and the "visualsettings.dat" and the "carcols.dat" to common\data and defragment your harddrive with the above program / any other defragmenter. Then you will run the mod without the new textures for trees, but still get all the other environment changes I did in the timesyc.dat and visualsettings.dat.

Let me know if it works.

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 07:44 PM Edited by thales100, 16 March 2009 - 12:39 AM.

QUOTE (kriller2 @ Mar 15 2009, 18:10)
Hi Thales, that's possible but then the realistic blue water will be gone and the brown colour of the water from stock GTA4 will come back.


Ah ok, so you wanted that result, you consider it more realistic. wink.gif

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#116

Posted 16 March 2009 - 01:07 AM

I think the water looks fine how he did it.

Let's be honest, the STOCK visual settings in GTA4 give the game an overall feeling of "brown" and "desaturated." Now I think they did that on purpose (similar to the film grain in Mass Effect) to give the game a certain feel, but I think colorful and vibrant looks the most realistic.

In the game you can see people's breath as if it were cold, but the trees are full and green so it can't be winter or fall. I think now the water looks more like it would on a crisp New York spring day, which that's perfect. I don't think he should change it.

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 08:50 AM

QUOTE (kriller2 @ Mar 16 2009, 01:10)
No I wont turn the water back to stock RealPcGameer smile.gif , but I can try to decrease the blue colour at special times of day and work some more on the water for a patch?

Hmm maybe it's a good idea? I will wait for it wink.gif

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:31 AM

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Mar 16 2009, 01:07)
I think the water looks fine how he did it.

Yes, after you get used to it, it looks really nice. colgate.gif

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (thales100 @ Mar 16 2009, 12:31)
QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Mar 16 2009, 01:07)
I think the water looks fine how he did it.

Yes, after you get used to it, it looks really nice. colgate.gif

Damn, Thales... even you came against me? You've betrayed my tweak cryani.gif

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (thales100 @ Mar 13 2009, 03:19)
QUOTE (Louis360 @ Mar 13 2009, 03:17)
awesome man nice pics thales100 this mod rocks

f*cking yeah man, i love it, cant play without this one + ultimate blur + farclip 3500. biggrin.gif

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