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Posted 17 March 2009 - 02:18 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 15 2009, 17:02)
QUOTE (hazeyo @ Mar 15 2009, 04:30)
dont let the haters get you down

thx guys for cheering me up. at least you tried.

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the youtube problem is fixed

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Hey killatomate i hope you read my above post as i wrote that before i actually tried your mod, NOW i have it installed i think its safe to say that what i said above stands stronger than ever, this mod is epic i love the handiling so much you have my full support with this mod it is amazing. ph34r.gif

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 05:32 PM

QUOTE (OLDCell @ Mar 17 2009, 11:37)
Any rls or have you decided to scrap it?

i think i will release 1.08 in a few days. 1.08 is such a big handling improvement, would be a shame to erase it from my hard drive. at least without champaign to celebrate the moment wink.gif

the encoding problem on youtube lasts 20 days already and youtube didnt fix anything. they dont even care.
would you mind to burn any YT admins you come across? thanks.

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:08 PM

We will, but please release it ASAP !!! smile.gif

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:28 PM

What's the problem with Youtube?

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Posted 17 March 2009 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 17 2009, 17:32)
QUOTE (OLDCell @ Mar 17 2009, 11:37)
Any rls or have you decided to scrap it?

i think i will release 1.08 in a few days. 1.08 is such a big handling improvement, would be a shame to erase it from my hard drive. at least without champaign to celebrate the moment wink.gif

the encoding problem on youtube lasts 20 days already and youtube didnt fix anything. they dont even care.
would you mind to burn any YT admins you come across? thanks.

Good to hear your gonna rls in a few days! looking forward to it!! icon14.gif

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 01:34 AM

WOW, huge improvement over GTA IV's original handling, but its still a little hard to control around the corners, but I guess that can't be helped with using a keyboard.

Now, to find a steering wheel so I can enjoy the awsomeness of this.

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 03:11 AM

i am guessing this mod screws with your online play?

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (YoungGun @ Mar 19 2009, 04:11)
i am guessing this mod screws with your online play?

yes. but you can have both handling.dat files in the same folder and simply rename the one you are currently not using.


update on 1.08:

this version not only features a new bike handling (including realistic traction and deceleration) but also new handling for all cars.
since i cannot test drive all cars in RL biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif , i tried to get the handling as close as possible to GTR2 (some racing simulation).
of course there are some drawbacks since GTA physics are anything but top-notch and also because i play GTR2 with wheel and this mod is optimized for keyboard/gamepad.
i did my best to make brakes behave like in GTR2, of course braking with keyboard in GTA is quite different to braking with pedals... sneaky2.gif
furthermore, i gave all cars a realistic deceleration. the amount of deceleration can be found in the acceleration chart included.
and some night i spent 4 hours to give all cars a realistic e-brake, which makes drifting much easier.

1.08 is great, thats why i didnt delete it yet. but my hdd behaves strangely lately, like its gonna die every minute biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 01:51 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 19 2009, 13:22)
QUOTE (YoungGun @ Mar 19 2009, 04:11)
i am guessing this mod screws with your online play?

yes. but you can have both handling.dat files in the same folder and simply rename the one you are currently not using.


update on 1.08:

this version not only features a new bike handling (including realistic traction and deceleration) but also new handling for all cars.
since i cannot test drive all cars in RL biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif , i tried to get the handling as close as possible to GTR2 (some racing simulation).
of course there are some drawbacks since GTA physics are anything but top-notch and also because i play GTR2 with wheel and this mod is optimized for keyboard/gamepad.
i did my best to make brakes behave like in GTR2, of course braking with keyboard in GTA is quite different to braking with pedals... sneaky2.gif
furthermore, i gave all cars a realistic deceleration. the amount of deceleration can be found in the acceleration chart included.
and some night i spent 4 hours to give all cars a realistic e-brake, which makes drifting much easier.

1.08 is great, thats why i didnt delete it yet. but my hdd behaves strangely lately, like its gonna die every minute biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Better get 1.08 out fast then biggrin.gif

The new improvements sound good, looking forward to using it !! icon14.gif

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 07:30 PM

I am Salivating here! for that v1.8


Sounds Great!

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 08:47 PM

I'm trying this mod since yesterday, it's amazing...........

Thanks to these awesome modders that are offering us nice mods...... wink.gif

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Posted 19 March 2009 - 11:32 PM

v1.08 is already uploaded. will take some hours until its ready for DL though.

here is a video:
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 19 2009, 23:32)
v1.08 is already uploaded. will take some hours until its ready for DL though.

here is a video:
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Looking good, roll on tomorrow when I get up... Got Friday off so have plenty of time to play! icon14.gif Nice one icon14.gif

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:36 AM

That movie looks sweet, can't wait to try it out smile.gif

Great job on this mod!!!
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 06:53 AM

Version 1.08 released!

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Youtube video: Link

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1.08 features:

-completely new bike handling (including realistic deceleration)
-more realistic brakes for all cars (including deceleration adjustments)
-realistic e-brakes (handbrakes) for all cars
-added deceleration info to the acceleration chart

Bikes:
-disabled an effect that caused unrealistic slipping when driving over bumps
-disabled an effect that caused the NRG900's rear wheel to slip and bounce on some materials
-disabled an effect that would cause unrealistic behaviour when braking while sliding
-made bikes less likely to slip or spin out of control on flat ground
-more realistic in-air behaviour
-realistic deceleration
-increased chance for Freeway to spawn in Beechwood City

Cars:
-Comet: new handling, suspension
-Turismo: handling adjustment
-Sultan: increased drifting ability, stronger suspension
-SabreGT: more oversteering
-Ruiner: more oversteering
-Banshee: stronger suspension
-Coquette: stronger suspension
-Infernus: stronger suspension
-SuperGT: stronger suspension
-Dukes: stronger suspension
-Feroci: stronger suspension
-Stratum: stronger suspension
-Schafter: stronger suspension
-Presidente: stronger suspension
-Premier: stronger suspension
-Police1: fixed random ABS failure

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 08:43 AM

You're a damn legend. I can't explain how much I love it. inlove.gif

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE (System796 @ Mar 20 2009, 00:43)
You're a damn legend. I can't explain how much I love it. inlove.gif

It's not all that really! I promise it's just another handling mod. If you drive with a controller instead of a keyboard and mouse the handling in the game was fine the way it was. And I get sick and tired of people saying it now drives like it is supposed to when most handling mod makers don't even have a license and for example take the infernus (It is a make believe car) how do you know how it's supposed to handle.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (gtafirestorm @ Mar 20 2009, 09:53)
QUOTE (System796 @ Mar 20 2009, 00:43)
You're a damn legend. I can't explain how much I love it. inlove.gif

It's not all that really! I promise it's just another handling mod. If you drive with a controller instead of a keyboard and mouse the handling in the game was fine the way it was. And I get sick and tired of people saying it now drives like it is supposed to when most handling mod makers don't even have a license and for example take the infernus (It is a make believe car) how do you know how it's supposed to handle.

I think the most important is, when you enjoy it, not how much realistic it is.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 10:59 AM

QUOTE (gtafirestorm @ Mar 20 2009, 10:53)
most handling mod makers don't even have a license and for example take the infernus (It is a make believe car) how do you know how it's supposed to handle.

i can assure you i got a license. and i was trained for 8 hours by a driver who was world champion some years ago.
How do you find out what the Lamborghini Murcielago handles like? Its featured in several racing simulations (eg. GTR2) so its not that hard to get a rough picture of the handling.
ever hit the brakes in real life? GTA4 is not even close to realism, in GTA4 cars understeer instead of oversteer when decelerating.

if you dont like this mod, dont play it.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 12:15 PM

Nice, just been playing for a bit and its great !! icon14.gif Nice work icon14.gif

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 01:10 PM

Great update! heres the article in gta4mods about that update: http://gta4mods.com/?r=news&nid=731

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 02:28 PM Edited by babarian225, 20 March 2009 - 02:51 PM.

Killomate

This Mod is Very good ! !

It is alot better than the previous version ! However ............The NRG 900 is way too Fast, although that seems realistic. thats 1 problem spotted, It can easily be fixed

Good Mod up there with the Best...... but imagine this mod withl custom engine sounds wow.gif

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 02:55 PM Edited by Killatomate, 20 March 2009 - 02:58 PM.

QUOTE (babarian225 @ Mar 20 2009, 15:28)
The NRG 900 is way too fast, although that seems realistic.

The 900cc bike is already 25% slower than in real life, i dont think there is a need to make it even slower.
In my opinion the main problem is that the driving skills of most players are messed up by the "lead foot" GTA4 default handling.

just take a look at statistics: on an average race track a 900cc bike drives only 6% of the time at full throttle.
so why would you drive through new york traffic at full throttle? just release the button when you have reached your desired speed. driving at 120 kph can be fun too, no need to go 240 kph, really.

btw, there is a reason mankind invented this thing called "brake", use it! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 06:34 PM

At first I thought there was no way you could improve it since version 1.07.

But now....

I'm speechless.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 04:37 AM

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:37 AM

Damn, its really nice, but i think the cars accelerate too fast, for me.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 01:42 PM Edited by Cylon, 21 March 2009 - 03:25 PM.

Does this still work with the third (newest) patch? Or we have to wait until this will be updated?

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 04:59 PM

I only tried with the sanchez, but when I press and hold the E-brake and the back tire is completely still, I will still keep moving as if the wheel was accelerating. I'm not saying it's moving fast, but it's just bad that it moves at all when there should be NO acceleration from a completely still tire.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (Cylon @ Mar 21 2009, 14:42)
Does this still work with the third (newest) patch? Or we have to wait until this will be updated?

from what i've heard it should still work. but i would only patch GTA to 1.03 if you have technical issues or usually play a lot multiplayer.
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I only tried with the sanchez, but when I press and hold the E-brake and the back tire is completely still, I will still keep moving as if the wheel was accelerating. I'm not saying it's moving fast, but it's just bad that it moves at all when there should be NO acceleration from a completely still tire.

never experienced that - can someone confirm?

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 12:41 AM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 21 2009, 18:29)
QUOTE (Cylon @ Mar 21 2009, 14:42)
Does this still work with the third (newest) patch? Or we have to wait until this will be updated?

from what i've heard it should still work. but i would only patch GTA to 1.03 if you have technical issues or usually play a lot multiplayer.
never change a running system. biggrin.gif

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I only tried with the sanchez, but when I press and hold the E-brake and the back tire is completely still, I will still keep moving as if the wheel was accelerating. I'm not saying it's moving fast, but it's just bad that it moves at all when there should be NO acceleration from a completely still tire.

never experienced that - can someone confirm?

It is true. Say you're going in 50 kph and then press and hold space while keeping W pushed, the back wheel will stop completely but the Sanchez will keep going at about 30-50 kph. As if it was still given force.




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