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#91

Posted 28 February 2009 - 09:42 PM

why do ppl keep downloading v1.05? i dont get it. v1.06 is much better wink.gif

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 11:07 AM

I played 1.06 for some hours, and its fantastic smile.gif The handling is very good.
The only thing i miss is that stock car or truck explosions dont affect nearby cars. Even with the bigger explosions mod its hard to create a chain reaction... Its just a bit weird, that a bus explodes in the traffic, and cars near it go away almost without damage...

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 01:56 PM

i have no problem to blow up 2 busses with 1 rocket. and why would a bus explode anyway? its just a huge piece of metal wink.gif
its not like they are rigged with explosives in real life biggrin.gif

any experience with the new vehicle spawning yet?

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 04:03 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 1 2009, 13:56)
i have no problem to blow up 2 busses with 1 rocket. and why would a bus explode anyway? its just a huge piece of metal wink.gif
its not like they are rigged with explosives in real life biggrin.gif

any experience with the new vehicle spawning yet?

Basically you are right, but its a lot of fun to see exploding cars biggrin.gif Well, no extreme damage, but i think at least every vehicle should be set on fire, if a grenade explodes within 1 meter... or so.

About the spawning, ive seen vehicles now in game, wich i havent met in the past 2 months since i play gta4 biggrin.gif For example the Aston Martin, or even the 911 Turbo wich ive found only 1 time before. Its nice to see some murcielagos, and corvettes too. The piaggios are a bit too much imo, at least in algonquin they dont fit the theme. But the busses are also driving all around, so its fun smile.gif

Problems i noticed:
- some of the cars do the "bumping tyre" sound all the time... i enter them when they are undamaged, and they do this sound as if a tyre would blow just in a second... i dont know why.
- Full accelerate with the NRG900 downhill, and you will crash immediately smile.gif Somehow it raises the nose a bit, and in that second the rear touches the ground, and Nico flies.. (not a big problem tough)

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (LocutusH @ Mar 1 2009, 17:03)
- some of the cars do the "bumping tyre" sound all the time... i enter them when they are undamaged, and they do this sound as if a tyre would blow just in a second... i dont know why.

- Full accelerate with the NRG900 downhill, and you will crash immediately smile.gif Somehow it raises the nose a bit, and in that second the rear touches the ground, and Nico flies.. (not a big problem tough)

hmm. i never experienced this sound problem. are you sure its due to my mod?

about the NRG900: i did lots of crazy things but i never fell off the bike except when hitting a car/building biggrin.gif

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Posted 01 March 2009 - 05:09 PM

You are a god.

Thanks for this I'm really enjoying driving now.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 05:50 AM

best mod i have played ph34r.gif
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Posted 03 March 2009 - 05:59 PM

A very good mod, if you are a car driver. Cars handle real well now, and I enjoy that part.

If you're a biker though... you're SOL. The Harley analogs (Hellfury I guess?) handle like crap, it's damn near impossible to corner on one of them without slowing down to a crawl. Why'd you mess up the bikes so much?

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 06:21 PM Edited by Killatomate, 03 March 2009 - 10:50 PM.

i spent most of the time on car handling and the pcj600 and nrg900.
just drove the hellfury 15 minutes ago. i have been working on bikes for the last 20 hours (dlc bikes too) but that doesnt mean theres gonna be another release anytime soon.

Edit: this is what i have changed, not sure whether there will be a release:

-made new handling for bikes and optimized them for cruising (except NRG900)
-Faggio: new handling, centre of mass
-Bobber: new handling
-Zombie: new handling
-Hellfury: new handling
-pcj600: handling
-nrg900: handling
-Comet: handling
-Infernus: brake bias
-Vincent: handling
-Blista: new handling, centre of mass
-Esperanto: brake bias
-Flatbed: handling

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 02:54 AM

i wasn't planning on releasing another version of this mod but i gotta admit that i focussed mainly on cars with my last releases.
yesterday i tried to add the DLC bikes to the mod but failed like everybody else. while driving the DLC bikes i realized that choppers can be fun to drive and that i didnt pay enough attention to them when i made this mod.
i have been working for 20 hours on a new handling for every bike and the result is quite good (no tradeoffs this time), so it looks like there will be another release. sometime.

version 1.07 is for all the bikers out there.
features: more realistic handling for every bike.

what i have changed so far:

PCJ and NRG:
-dont feel like glued to the ground anymore.
-can use handbrake to slide
-burnouts possible
-braking in turns now has disadvantages
-new turning radius
-adjusted turning animation

Zombie, Freeway and Hellfury:
-realistic acceleration
-realistic top speed
-realistic brake strength
-new turning radius
-adjusted turning animation
-optimized for cruising

Faggio:
-decreased acceleration
-new turning radius
-adjusted turning animation

i didnt work on Sanchez yet.

cya.





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#101

Posted 04 March 2009 - 07:01 AM

suggestion for sanchez: make it more easy to climb cars with sanchez, this way you can do monster-truck-sanchez-riding tounge.gif

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#102

Posted 04 March 2009 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (illdan @ Mar 4 2009, 08:01)
suggestion for sanchez: make it more easy to climb cars with sanchez, this way you can do monster-truck-sanchez-riding tounge.gif

sounds interesting, but i would have to increase the wheel radius and i guess that would look kinda strange biggrin.gif

i have just finished the new bike handling. its waaay better than the old handling, but right now i am not in the mood to release tounge.gif
its time for hockey training. i'll be back in a few hours.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:06 PM

right now i am reworking the cars again. i looked up manufacturers specifications for every car and now i am adjusting the cars accordingly to the data. (acceleration, top speed, weight, gears). when i am done with that i will release v1.07

1.07 features (in a nutshell):
-perfect bike handling
-realism update for all cars

stay tuned!

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 04:15 PM

Awsome! you should edit helicopters aswell, make them faster tounge.gif

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 05:19 PM

I play online quite a bit, not a huge amount of racing, but some.

Will this mod also affect the handling online? Cause that could lead to some really boring races if I'm constantly just flying ahead of everyone.

Can you cast some light?

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#106

Posted 05 March 2009 - 07:54 PM

QUOTE (waverley @ Mar 5 2009, 18:19)
Will this mod also affect the handling online?

you have to switch back to the original handling.dat b4 playing online. you can have both in the same folder, just rename the one you are not using.


man this is killing me. reworking all the cars takes too much time and is sooo boring! in order to get the accelerations right, i have to race every friggin vehicle (there are 110) against the clock - over and over again.... sad.gif

expect the 1.07 release in 24 hours. thats how long reworking the cars will take...

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 06:16 AM

i have been working day and night, 1.07 is almost finished. im gonna take a nap and then release that bitch.
cancel your appointments for the weekend tounge.gif

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#108

Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:26 AM

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cancel your appointments for the weekend 


Definitely will do smile.gif

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 05:03 PM


v1.07 released! just wait for an admin to approve the file.

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features:
-all new kick-ass bike handling
-some new spawning areas for bikes
-new handling for every car
-adjusted the performance of every car to match manufacturer specifications.

enjoy the weekend! cool.gif

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#110

Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 6 2009, 17:03)
v1.07 released! just wait for an admin to approve the file.

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features:
-all new kick-ass bike handling
-some new spawning areas for bikes
-new handling for every car
-adjusted the performance of every car to match manufacturer specifications.

enjoy the weekend! cool.gif

Hey man can you the same to SA please?? you've done an awesome work! It would be real great to see realistic driving to SA too...

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#111

Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:28 PM

1.07 is ready for download!

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tell me what you think about the new handling.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 09:19 AM

Awesome! Im using your handling mods since 1.05 i dont play online anymore cool.gif

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#113

Posted 07 March 2009 - 06:22 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Mar 6 2009, 21:28)
1.07 is ready for download!

Link

tell me what you think about the new handling.



Hi,

I tried both your 1.5v Mod and 1.7


FEEDBACK is, Firstly the 1.7 mod is better than 1.5 in for the Car Driving.



The Main Problem in v1.7 is the Bike handles Crap!

Mainly the NRG900 is a now a Mess!

I'll Explain, when you get your Knee down on a low speed corner the bike tends to spin out ....NRG900


In v1.5 it handled good but the problem there was if you used the handbrake turn button (xbox360 pad RB)the Camera did'nt respond properly, that was fixed in v1.7



Thats the Only problem.

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#114

Posted 07 March 2009 - 06:37 PM

I like the bike handling, it is kinda getting realistic, I've had some great moments by both Sanchez and speedbikes this afternoon. It is a lot better than previous build.

Cars have been perfect for a while (I follow it from 1.04) , I just love this kind of handling. This is how it should have been done originally, now the vanilla seems so lame.
To tell you the truth I cannot really tell the new handling from the previous, I still find it totally satisfying.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 08:01 PM

QUOTE (babarian225 @ Mar 7 2009, 19:22)
Mainly the NRG900 is a  now a Mess!
I'll Explain, when you get your Knee down on a low speed corner the bike tends to spin out ....NRG900

the bike is not a mess. i spent 20 hours to make it as realistic as possible in GTA IV.

the bike only spins out when you take a hard turn at 100% throttle. in real life this would even happen at 50% throttle. So the handling is still very forgiving. I have no problem to race like a maniac even in heavy rain. (keyboard)
all you have to do is to avoid braking and accelerating in hard turns. like in real life.

there are 2 ways to "fix" your "problem":
1. make the bike a 4WD biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
2. Disable the handbrake and some other physics

which one would you choose? tounge.gif

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#116

Posted 07 March 2009 - 08:26 PM

sugestion: can you edit the helicopters handling?
and the 1.07 is really good icon14.gif

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 08:58 PM Edited by babarian225, 08 March 2009 - 02:45 AM.

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there are 2 ways to "fix" your "problem":
1. make the bike a 4WD biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
2. Disable the handbrake and some other physics




If the mod is emphasizing on real life, then I simply can't comprehend how a bike can perform a handbrake turn? but due to handbrake turn being so much Fun in the game, I guess that's why you implemented it in your mod.



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#118

Posted 08 March 2009 - 06:13 AM

version 1.07 is awsome! for your next version make helicopter handling tounge.gif

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 07:55 AM

QUOTE (illdan @ Mar 8 2009, 07:13)
version 1.07 is awsome! for your next version make helicopter handling

i am a good pilot, but i am not interested in flying in GTA IV. i prefer REAL flight simulators wink.gif
(and Joysticks, with at least 32 buttons biggrin.gif )


about handbraking with bikes, there are 2 two reasons why it was implemented:
1. its fun! and not THAT unrealistic. when i was a kid, i liked to slide around corners with my bicycle biggrin.gif
2. many many many players complained about the fact that the handbrake was missing. many.

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#120

Posted 08 March 2009 - 02:05 PM

I guess the controls are just on the fine line between reality and fun playability.
And I forgot to say thanks for this mod, so thanks for this mod. smile.gif




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