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Posted 17 April 2010 - 03:51 PM

My mouse still doesnt work in EfLC!
2 years of development and my mouse is still being treated as thumbstick.

f*ck you Rockstar! f*ck you!

you incompetent retards!

you really know how to piss players off

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 09:52 PM

i have been testing for a few hours and this mod seems to be working fine with EFLC.

this video tells you how to install the mod:



looks like there is no modding protection at all?

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Posted 18 April 2010 - 06:24 AM

yes, but i think that rockstar added one thing: players with modded files can't see servers with unmodded files etc. Coz i wanted to play, but there were very small servers, not like usual.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 04:19 AM

Umm killa, do you have a list of corresponding cars that you are basing the handling off of? Just for model replacement purposes.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:47 AM

Just downloaded the latest one and replaced all files but in the folders named about helicopters are those the same as the other handling.dat files but has the helicopter line edited whereas the others don't?

I am just confused as to why there is so many handling.dat files.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 08:39 AM

Hi Killatomate,

You maybe know I'm working on a new car pack since a few month,
the project in now well advanced and I was dreaming about having your skill in the project team.

Would you like to have a look at the pack and make some handling optimization where they are needed?

By the way, congratz for all your awesome work.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 09:13 AM

Any chance of uploading the DLC mod somewhere else so we dont have to wait days for gtagarage?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:28 AM

Since the install of this all I have seen are taxis Huntleys and buses where's the other vehicles?

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:35 PM Edited by P1ch3, 21 April 2010 - 12:37 PM.

QUOTE (Anach @ Apr 21 2010, 09:13)
Any chance of uploading the DLC mod somewhere else so we dont have to wait days for gtagarage?

Go in EFLC Folder \common\data and Replace handling.dat by the One By Killatomate

Thank You Very Much for this New Update Dude.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:44 PM Edited by Killatomate, 21 April 2010 - 06:49 PM.

QUOTE (Anach @ Apr 21 2010, 11:13)
Any chance of uploading the DLC mod somewhere else so we dont have to wait days for gtagarage?

i have uploaded the EFLC mod 4 days ago to two different file hosters but they both screwed up.
Whats the point in making mods when you cant share them??? confused.gif
i was rushing like hell to get Beta1 done within 2 days (working day and night) and NOW I HAVE TO WATCH THE FILE BEING IDLE ON THESE SERVERS FOR 5 DAYS. sad.

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do you have a list of corresponding cars that you are basing the handling off of? Just for model replacement purposes.

uum, it's all in handwriting ON REAL PAPER - because i am too lazy to keep switching between applications and notepad, and because GTA4 is prone to crashing.
i could write it all again, but right now i have other things on my mind.


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Hi Killatomate,
You maybe know I'm working on a new car pack since a few month,
the project in now well advanced and I was dreaming about having your skill in the project team.
Would you like to have a look at the pack and make some handling optimization where they are needed?

By the way, congratz for all your awesome work.

right now i am focusing on EFLC, but i could help you in a few weeks (or maybe not? i am traveling a lot). just contact me when you have gathered all car models and need help with a few handlings.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:55 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Apr 21 2010, 14:44)
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do you have a list of corresponding cars that you are basing the handling off of? Just for model replacement purposes.

uum, it's all in handwriting ON REAL PAPER - because i am too lazy to keep switching between applications and notepad, and because GTA4 is prone to crashing.
i could write it all again, but right now i have other things on my mind.

Oh ok. You could scan them (when you have time) if you want, I'll type it up and put it here for you =)

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Apr 21 2010, 14:44)
QUOTE (Anach @ Apr 21 2010, 11:13)
Any chance of uploading the DLC mod somewhere else so we dont have to wait days for gtagarage?

i have uploaded the EFLC mod 4 days ago to two different file hosters but they both screwed up.
Whats the point in making mods when you cant share them??? confused.gif
i was rushing like hell to get Beta1 done within 2 days (working day and night) and NOW I HAVE TO WATCH THE FILE BEING IDLE ON THESE SERVERS FOR 5 DAYS. sad.

HOTFILE uploads instantly, you could upload it there until the GTAGarage link works. If you want, of course(no pressure).

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 07:22 AM

Killatomate can you help with my issue above please.

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 03:00 AM

QUOTE (GhostStorm @ Apr 21 2010, 08:47)
Just downloaded the latest one and replaced all files but in the folders named about helicopters are those the same as the other handling.dat files but has the helicopter line edited whereas the others don't?

I am just confused as to why there is so many handling.dat files.

the only difference between the three files is the helicopter handling. just pick the handling you prefer

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Posted 25 April 2010 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE (Drunk Russian 9 @ Apr 21 2010, 06:19)
Umm killa, do you have a list of corresponding cars that you are basing the handling off of?

i wrote that list yesterday. took awhile to write down stuff for 140 vehicles... wink.gif

the list is included in my "Realistic Driving EFLC 1.0" release, which has already been uploaded.

http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=446071

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Posted 28 April 2010 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Apr 25 2010, 19:23)
QUOTE (Drunk Russian 9 @ Apr 21 2010, 06:19)
Umm killa, do you have a list of corresponding cars that you are basing the handling off of?

i wrote that list yesterday. took awhile to write down stuff for 140 vehicles... wink.gif

the list is included in my "Realistic Driving EFLC 1.0" release, which has already been uploaded.

http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=446071

Thanks so much!

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 01:19 PM

killalomate, i was wondering if you can do something like that for gta sa/vc/III? is it in your plans? i just like that games too, but i haven't seen good handling for them.

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Posted 10 January 2011 - 02:14 AM

undoubtedly, the best handling on earth;
may be you should work for R * next time ...

However, I adjusted the distortion values Dd
for my personal use:
4 for small or modern cars
3 for cars
2 for 4x4s and vans
1 for larger trucks and 5 sports cars
and I kept the original handling Faggio;)

Thank you very much for this wonderful sharing!
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 10:45 AM

how can I increase the deformation rate, like 2x?

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 04:15 AM

Hello Napoleonic,

you can do this in handling.dat file, in gtaIV\common\data folder,
on Dd values of Admiral at Yankee.


for example, the first line :

; A B C D E F G Tt Tg Tf Ti Tv Tb Tbb Thb Ts Wc+ Wc- Wc- Ws+ Wbias Sf Scd Srd Su Sl Sr Sb Dc Dw Dd De Ms Mv Mmf Mhf Ma
ADMIRAL 1700.0 0.00 85 0.0 0.0 -0.24 0.0 5 0.158 1.0 160.0 0.22 0.610 0.45 35.0 1.40 1.16 14.4 0.13 0.4828 2.6 1.3 1.3 0.10 -0.13 0.0 0.50 1.4 0.6 3.0 1.7 0.0 25000 440010 0 0

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE (ceoceed @ Jan 11 2011, 11:15)
Hello Napoleonic,

you can do this in handling.dat file, in gtaIV\common\data folder,
on Dd values of Admiral at Yankee.


for example, the first line :

; A B C D E F G Tt Tg Tf Ti Tv Tb Tbb Thb Ts Wc+ Wc- Wc- Ws+ Wbias Sf Scd Srd Su Sl Sr Sb Dc Dw Dd De Ms Mv Mmf Mhf Ma
ADMIRAL 1700.0 0.00 85 0.0 0.0 -0.24 0.0 5 0.158 1.0 160.0 0.22 0.610 0.45 35.0 1.40 1.16 14.4 0.13 0.4828 2.6 1.3 1.3 0.10 -0.13 0.0 0.50 1.4 0.6 3.0 1.7 0.0 25000 440010 0 0

thanks, but is the bigger the number the faster the deformation or not?

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 03:54 PM

or yes ! wink.gif

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:04 PM

soooo. this is just the handling files? all those pictures of replaced car models/textures means nothing? cuz i dont see how over 100 cars can be replaced in a 3MB file. granted i havent modded gta4 before only SA.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 02:12 AM Edited by ceoceed, 12 January 2011 - 02:17 AM.

You're not so curious for 3mo;) [3mo=100cars possibly in Gta1]
the settings are for the 100 real cars, I guess,
and work for the imitations of the game perfectly.
You can be sure!

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 08:44 AM

hey what does it mean with the custom car handling? where to get the car and how to install it with this mod?

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 12:21 PM

I only know this :
http://www.gtagarage...how.php?id=5529

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 08:12 AM

Actually, I thought that the cars are a tad too fast at lower gears... I will think that it's better if gear 1 caps ard 20km/h, then shifts to gear 2 and caps ard 40-45km/h, etc... and leave the higher gears to do the rest. Cos' I can see from my exp that the real cars dun speed up that fast at lower gears...

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 07:48 PM

hi man,

your handlings are just amazingly good
i've been using them for like half a year now (wild guess wink.gif )
both tboght and tlad aswell

All cars ingame represent real life counter parts right?

but how about ingame information? like when the real life counter part is a V8
but in the game they made it V10 , did you increase it's preformance?

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 09:32 PM

QUOTE (arikyeo @ Feb 19 2011, 10:12)
Actually, I thought that the cars are a tad too fast at lower gears... I will think that it's better if gear 1 caps ard 20km/h, then shifts to gear 2 and caps ard 40-45km/h, etc... and leave the higher gears to do the rest. Cos' I can see from my exp that the real cars dun speed up that fast at lower gears...

the game doesnt allow more detailed changes to gear ratio. this is as close as it gets bored.gif


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hi man,
your handlings are just amazingly good 
i've been using them for like half a year now (wild guess wink.gif )
both  tboght and  tlad aswell

All cars ingame represent real life counter parts right?
but how about ingame information? like when the real life counter part is a V8
but in the game they made it V10  ,  did you increase it's preformance?

the problem is that many cars have variants (eg. DF-8 stock, DF-8 sport, DF-8 V6 turbo charged) but use only one handling.
this means that all variants have to have the same performance. not matter whats printed on their hood. which performance would you pick? make the stock version accelerate like a V6 turbo - or make the turbo version as slow as the stock car?

in most cases i chose the most popular engine version - the one that your are most likely to meet on the street - or the version thats most interesting to drive.

gta4 modding is always a compromise. whatsthat.gif

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Posted 20 February 2011 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Killatomate @ Feb 19 2011, 21:32)
QUOTE (arikyeo @ Feb 19 2011, 10:12)
Actually, I thought that the cars are a tad too fast at lower gears... I will think that it's better if gear 1 caps ard 20km/h, then shifts to gear 2 and caps ard 40-45km/h, etc... and leave the higher gears to do the rest. Cos' I can see from my exp that the real cars dun speed up that fast at lower gears...

the game doesnt allow more detailed changes to gear ratio. this is as close as it gets bored.gif


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hi man,
your handlings are just amazingly good 
i've been using them for like half a year now (wild guess wink.gif )
both   tboght and  tlad aswell

All cars ingame represent real life counter parts right?
but how about ingame information? like when the real life counter part is a V8
but in the game they made it V10  ,   did you increase it's preformance?

the problem is that many cars have variants (eg. DF-8 stock, DF-8 sport, DF-8 V6 turbo charged) but use only one handling.
this means that all variants have to have the same performance. not matter whats printed on their hood. which performance would you pick? make the stock version accelerate like a V6 turbo - or make the turbo version as slow as the stock car?

in most cases i chose the most popular engine version - the one that your are most likely to meet on the street - or the version thats most interesting to drive.

gta4 modding is always a compromise. whatsthat.gif

fact


thx man
the presidente alwais is v10 btw so this one does handle like a V10? thought there is supercharged and stock

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 06:22 PM

I have tried to install your handling mod (the EFLC version) on the GFWL version of the TBOGT DLC on the Steam version of GTA IV, and when I try to start up TBOGT, the game crashes.

I have the regular version of your handling mod working just fine on vanilla GTA IV. What could be the problem?




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