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#91

Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:27 AM

The logical answer might have already been posted in the 5 pages of replies, but in case it's not, here goes tounge.gif

I believe R* just meant it as a joke -- not really a ROFLMAO joke, just a small chuckle, and certainly not something to be as over-analyzed as, lets say, the ending to The Sopranos. Claude just (supposedly) did what any guy in a relationship would like to do when our girlfriends/wives run their mouths non-stop. And I'm sure they did it because (thus far), we never really see or hear from Claude or Maria again, post-1992, so their fates aren't really important. But perhaps we'll see an old newspaper article in GTAV, with a photo of Claude, headline reading "Gangster, Sentenced to Life in Prison, Escapes from Alderney CF in Laundry Truck" (yeah, too long..) smile.gif
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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:50 AM

QUOTE (GTAKid667 @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 02:00)
QUOTE (Andreaz1 @ Saturday, Nov 3 2012, 11:57)
QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Friday, Nov 2 2012, 23:56)
I don't think it would make sense if Claude killed Maria for no reason.

Saving her first and then killing her? Nah, don't think so, it might be a member of the columbian cartel that might have killed her.


Also, have in mind that without Maria, Claude would have been dead. She warned Claude about Salvatore Leone's death-trap.

Wasn't she the one who made Salvatore set the trap in the first place?

By accident, she was mouthing off to Salvatore (Her Husband) how great Claude was etc and Salvatore couldn't trust Claude and I think there was another reason but I forgot

It was because in 1992 Carl Johnson betrayed him by robbing Caligula's Casino.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

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#94

Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Saturday, Nov 3 2012, 01:56)
Saving her first and then killing her? Nah, don't think so, it might be a member of the columbian cartel that might have killed her.

I don't think he went there to save her. I think he wanted to settle things between himself and Catalina, and he decided to bring the money so that he can meet with her.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:13 PM

I think him not kill her. Because, is no sense... why him kill Maria just to shut her mouth? mercie_blink.gif

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE (TheBrazilian @ Tuesday, Feb 12 2013, 13:13)
... why him kill Maria just to shut her mouth? mercie_blink.gif

To shut her mouth.

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Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Tuesday, Feb 12 2013, 13:25)
QUOTE (TheBrazilian @ Tuesday, Feb 12 2013, 13:13)
... why him kill Maria just to shut her mouth?  mercie_blink.gif

To shut her mouth.

If that was the reason, Claude is very cold! Why kill an innocent person? bored.gif

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#98

Posted 22 March 2015 - 05:38 AM

Sorry to bring this back up but has no one thought that savlvatore could of put a hit out on maria, and it was an assassination by a leone family member?

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#99

Posted 22 March 2015 - 10:23 AM

No, he didn't kill her. Claude's not stupid, he wouldn't go through all of that trouble to rescue her just to kill her at the end.

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Posted 22 March 2015 - 01:35 PM

I don´t think that Claude killed her.As other people said,he wouldn´t go through all that trouble to save her just to kill her a few minutes later himself.The gunshot was either just to scare her to stop talking or a non canon sound effect,to end the game with a bang.I also doubt it was a hitman because a hitman would probably kill both of them(or even more likely just him,since he made a lot of enemies during the story).


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#101

Posted 23 March 2015 - 09:44 PM

Maria actually shot Claude.


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Posted 25 March 2015 - 11:08 AM

No, I don't think Claude does. I think it's just to finish the game with a bang.

After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude.

But that starts playing on the radio mid-game, before you kill her (I believe you do.) If I was killing people willy-nilly like Claude she`d be high on my list!


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#103

Posted 26 March 2015 - 06:11 PM

No, he didn't kill her. Claude's not stupid, he wouldn't go through all of that trouble to rescue her just to kill her at the end.

His main motive was to kill Catalina. Maria being there ended up as a bonus, so to say.

 

This is a question that simply has no straight answer. You can come up with great logical answers to the question, but in the end, all of this will remain a mystery.


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Posted 05 April 2015 - 02:18 AM

He killed her and sold her body to the Leone's as compensation for killing Sal.

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#105

Posted 08 April 2015 - 11:06 PM

I just watched it again, he definitely kills her. It makes sense as she would essentially become
His girlfriend, yet the mechanism didn't exist. Her speech also cuts off right as the fun goes off. It's just a joke rockstar put in because she talks sh*t and the games over because she's no longer needed.

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Posted 22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM Edited by Spadge007, 22 April 2015 - 10:27 PM.

Guys, it was one of their earlier titles, the same dark and absurd humour as in the top down games. This hasn't to be taken so seriously, there were only fooling around, we are far away from GTA IV's serious ending.

 

Stop trying to extend the Canon of the series to everything, this was obliously purely ludicrous. Why ? Because it's fictional and back then games weren't the same than today.

 

The gunshot has been fired and Maria shut up, this is obviously referring to this kind of Trope. Since the screen turned black it can be interpretated ambiguisly, but this is not the main inquiry here. After this gunshot the credits roll, reminding us this was only a game, whatever this gunshot Sound alluded to, it doesn't have to be taken seriously or as a part of the Story.

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 07:34 PM

No, he didn't kill her. Claude's not stupid, he wouldn't go through all of that trouble to rescue her just to kill her at the end.

He was trying to kill Catalina, not rescue Maria.

 

Guys, it was one of their earlier titles, the same dark and absurd humour as in the top down games. This hasn't to be taken so seriously, there were only fooling around, we are far away from GTA IV's serious ending.

 

Stop trying to extend the Canon of the series to everything, this was obliously purely ludicrous. Why ? Because it's fictional and back then games weren't the same than today.

 

^Pretty much this. At that moment they weren't taking GTA's stories so seriously. Only with IV they started to care for real.

 

He killed her, he didn't, whatever. You can think this is a long, interactive movie, which is not trying to tell any deep story. It is just fun.


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#108

Posted 05 May 2015 - 04:37 PM

I think he rather shot somewhere else just to shut Maria from all the useless talks. If he had to kill Maria, he wouldn't bother to rescue her in first place, no matter if he were to take down Catalina.
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#109

Posted 06 May 2015 - 12:40 PM

the shot at the end didnt kill maria. it was just to stop the game, like for example in vice city the gunshots that kill diaz, make the screen fade white and the cutscene is over

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#110

Posted 27 May 2015 - 08:08 PM

at the end of the game we can see that Maria speaks to Claude and tells him she loves him but claude does not even look completely ignores, I wonder if this couple will have lasted?, claude kills maria?, claude really loved Maria latore?


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Posted 27 May 2015 - 09:55 PM

i think not.

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Posted 27 May 2015 - 10:45 PM

No. He never loved her.

He just wanted revenge on Catalina.

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#113

Posted 20 July 2015 - 03:40 PM

The shot at the end, was Claude shooting himself, because he just  ... lost it ! .. listening to Maria's bla.... bla.... bla ..... :sui:


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#114

Posted 20 July 2015 - 11:03 PM

I thought Claude loved Maria. In fact, Claude did a lot of things that made him love Maria. Especially with Catalina kidnapping her to get Claude's attention.


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Posted 01 August 2015 - 09:04 PM Edited by Pikas_PK, 01 August 2015 - 09:08 PM.

Here are 2 reasons why I believe that Claude killed Maria:
 
1) Claude came to get revenge on Catalina, not to rescue Maria and since he doesn't need any friends, she wasn't necessary for him or he just got angry, because she was talking sh*t.
 
2) Since Maria met Claude, she turned away from her husband Salvatore Leone and then he got angry and paid 8-Ball to rig the bomb to Cheetah just to get rid of Claude. Maybe Claude got revenge on Maria, too.

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Posted 16 August 2015 - 04:21 AM Edited by stef_92, 16 August 2015 - 04:22 AM.

Remember when Rockstar said that her monolog at the end was longer and boring. You can actually find it in the GXT file:

[CAT2_F] I broke a nail, and my hair's ruined. Can you believe it? This one cost me fifty dollars!
[CAT2_G] I was so scared, but then I thought to myself, you're a big girl now.
[CAT2_H] Oh we're going to have such fun, cause, you know, my sister said she wanted to come to stay with her two kids,
[CAT2_I] because her husband's playing around again and..

and the shot was probably meant to be after the  "and..."


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Posted 17 August 2015 - 05:58 AM

He fired the gun in the air so she would shut her f*cking mouth.

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Posted 17 August 2015 - 02:33 PM

If he fired at nothing Maria would scream in terror, as the gun shot would scare her.

 

She obviously died.


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Posted 19 August 2015 - 12:04 PM

If he fired at nothing Maria would scream in terror, as the gun shot would scare her.

 

She obviously died.

We can't tell if she started screaming because the scene simply ends after the shot


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Posted 26 August 2015 - 04:08 AM

We will never know for sure personally i think maria got what she had coming to her i would waste her think back to where she blabbered to Salvatore that you and her were an item and he decided to set up the cheetah with a bomb before you left for Staunton.





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