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Posted 31 January 2009 - 04:06 AM

Ok, so I just got done beating this game, so I notice at the end of the game, like Maria is talking to Claude and then I notice like right at the very end of the game, the screen just fades black and the game just ends with a gunshot and then Maria is silenced after this, so, I guess, does this leave me to assume that Claude kills Maria??? That's a kind of weird ending for a game......I spent the whole last mission saving Maria's ass, only to kill her at the end??? lol

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 04:09 AM

No, I don't think Claude does. I think it's just to finish the game with a bang.

After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 05:17 AM

I reckon it's just to shut her up. It wouldn't make sense that Claude kills her for no reason.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 09:19 AM

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Jan 31 2009, 06:17)
I reckon it's just to shut her up. It wouldn't make sense that Claude kills her for no reason.

Unless he's so cold, that he wants the whole world dead except himself. Anyways, I think this gunshot was only to either end the game's story or to warn Maria to shut up.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 09:54 AM

QUOTE (Flesh-n-Bone @ Jan 31 2009, 03:19)
QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Jan 31 2009, 06:17)
I reckon it's just to shut her up. It wouldn't make sense that Claude kills her for no reason.

Unless he's so cold, that he wants the whole world dead except himself. Anyways, I think this gunshot was only to either end the game's story or to warn Maria to shut up.

You, sir, have just echoed what many members before you have said. This might be the quote this forum has seen the most. tounge.gif

Yeah, no one knows for sure. This has been debated about in at least hundreds of topics before. You know just as much as anyone else here does.

@GTA1: Right, but you'd hear that at any point in the game. This was before they implemented the "unlockable" radio clips. Dunno if I'd considered that solid proof.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE (GTA1 @ Jan 31 2009, 04:09)
No, I don't think Claude does. I think it's just to finish the game with a bang.

After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude.

That can be heard even before Claude and Maria meet.

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Posted 31 January 2009 - 12:47 PM

QUOTE (GTA1 @ Jan 31 2009, 04:09)
After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude.

Chatterbox is a looped .wav file.It is not broadcasting in realtime.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 02:05 AM

I don't think he killed her. He spent nine years with Catalina and didn't shoot her annoying ass.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 03:46 AM

Yes claude kills maria because at the end of the game maria doesnt stop talking and the gunshot you hear does kill maria. I also have read in some book that claude shoots her for some peace and quiet.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 03:51 AM

It's an iffy subject. Some people beleive Claude killed her, some don't. It's really a matter of your imagination.

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Posted 22 February 2009 - 05:57 AM

***SPOILER***

During the last mission when you go and deliver the money to Catalina to free Maria at the mansion, Catalina skrews you over and tells her guards to shoot you insted of freeing maria like she said she would if claude brought her the money. Catalina asks claude before he is about to get ambushed if he had really come back to free maria or to get revenge on her. since claude cant talk to respond we belive that he went back to free maria, but...

Claude shoots and kills maria becasue its simple, he didint care about saving her, he really wanted revenge on catalina, which he did.

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 09:23 PM

QUOTE (GTA1 @ Jan 31 2009, 04:09)
After you've completed the game, listen to Chatterbox. I believe you hear Maria saying something about Claude.

That radio clip is played right at the start of the game before Maria even meets him.

I think it's safe to say that Claude shot her. Who cares if he did anyway?

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Posted 23 February 2009 - 10:00 PM

It's a joke. I don't think R* intended people to read so much into it.

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Posted 07 March 2009 - 03:20 PM

well,maybe a direct sequel of gta 3 would tell us if whether or not maria is really dead.or was claude arrested and put in cryonic sleep until gta 2 happened mercie_blink.gif ?

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 03:00 PM

Maria died of two reasons:

1.She wouldnt shut the hell up.
2.Characters cant follow you after passing a mission so R* found a way to remove her.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 04:31 PM

Nah, she wasn't killed, it was just a way to end the game, with a burst from the old shotgun.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:28 PM

To put it frankly, we don't know! He either fired a warning shot to shut her up or he killed her to shut her up... That's R* for you, always leaving you in the dark! biggrin.gif

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 03:50 AM

i think nixion got it right. is seems as if all claude was after was revenge.
wen catalina says" .......to save maria or to get me back... killing you will be a pleasure but dating you was only buisness" i think this implies she thought he wanted her back not to get her back.

i think claud wanted revenge , he kills cat, rescues maria(who de dusnt seem to like all that much) she chews his ear off, and he shoots her just because shes annoying. its pretty funny.

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 08:31 PM

There might be a few reasons for him to kill Maria. The least significant is that Maria was ranting on and on and he shot her to shut her up. The more important reason would be to get back at her for screwing him up with Salvatore back in Portland. "Why didn't he just kill her earlier", you ask? The same reason why he didn't kill Catalina in the missions Cutting the Grass and Grand Theft Aero. Or maybe I'm just drinking too much coffee. Either way, thats Claude for yuh.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 11:11 AM

QUOTE (Dark_side646 @ May 13 2009, 20:31)
There might be a few reasons for him to kill Maria. The least significant is that Maria was ranting on and on and he shot her to shut her up. The more important reason would be to get back at her for screwing him up with Salvatore back in Portland. "Why didn't he just kill her earlier", you ask? The same reason why he didn't kill Catalina in the missions Cutting the Grass and Grand Theft Aero. Or maybe I'm just drinking too much coffee. Either way, thats Claude for yuh.

You're drinking too much coffee. It would be idiotic for Claude to kill Maria, just after killing 30 gang members and taking down a chopper. The gun shot was just to signal the end of the main missions. icon14.gif

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 12:22 PM

Since when do gunshots signal the end of missions?

I always took it that he shot her. Why wouldn't he? She screwed him over on more than one occasion, and as the end credits roll, he's finally in a position to exact his revenge.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 01:21 PM

Well if you heard a gunshot yes, and it wasen't part of the credits, they just didn't want to show it. And in vice city and san andreas, do you hear a gunshot once you beat the last mission at the end of the cutscence. No. So that should answer your question.

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 03:30 PM

QUOTE (Wheelman @ May 14 2009, 12:22)
Since when do gunshots signal the end of missions?

I always took it that he shot her. Why wouldn't he? She screwed him over on more than one occasion, and as the end credits roll, he's finally in a position to exact his revenge.

It's just the end of the main missions. Claude does alot to save Maria in a transaction, he gives away a lot of money and in the process loses his weapons. He could have left Liberty City, but stays to take care of Catalinia. Also, he leaves the Dam area with Maria, why, if he wanted to kill her, wouldn't he do it at the bottom of the dam with the dead gang members.

GTAVC and SA are different, they have their own unique endings. Whereas in GTAIII, Claude, in a way, tells Maria to shut up with a burst of the shot gun.


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Posted 14 May 2009 - 06:54 PM

The chopper had the girl who shot Claude and left him to die. The gang-members worked with that very girl to make sure Claude dies one way or the other. I see this as a good enough reason for Claude to kill them all without with the intention of saving another girl who screwed him up.

Besides, Claude had a truck-load of money. Giving some of it to finally get a chance to get back at the woman who did everything possible to kill him wouldn't hurt. If he just barged in there, guns blazing, I don't think she'd have stopped to watch the scenery. Losing his guns wasn't his own decision, just a smart move by Catalina he didn't anticipate.

Now, if gunshots in the dark don't really indicate someone dying then maybe Tommy and Lance just pulled the trigger to shut Diaz up and then safely escorted him out of the mansion. Same case with Hernandez and Pendelbery. If Claude's gunshot was to scare Maria then I expected to hear a shocked gasp or a scream from Maria. Oh wait, thats right, there wasn't any. Maybe she....died?

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Posted 14 May 2009 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Dark_side646 @ May 14 2009, 18:54)
The chopper had the girl who shot Claude and left him to die. The gang-members worked with that very girl to make sure Claude dies one way or the other. I see this as a good enough reason for Claude to kill them all without with the intention of saving another girl who screwed him up.

Besides, Claude had a truck-load of money. Giving some of it to finally get a chance to get back at the woman who did everything possible to kill him wouldn't hurt. If he just barged in there, guns blazing, I don't think she'd have stopped to watch the scenery. Losing his guns wasn't his own decision, just a smart move by Catalina he didn't anticipate.

Now, if gunshots in the dark don't really indicate someone dying then maybe Tommy and Lance just pulled the trigger to shut Diaz up and then safely escorted him out of the mansion. Same case with Hernandez and Pendelbery. If Claude's gunshot was to scare Maria then I expected to hear a shocked gasp or a scream from Maria. Oh wait, thats right, there wasn't any. Maybe she....died?

that makes total since, smart of you relating that from vice city cut scence. Rockstar just doesn't want you noticing it.

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 11:02 AM

he did kill her. its a joke. after all of clauds hard work saving maria, he finally has her all too himself and realises shes a pain in the ass. you san imagine him rolling his eyes thinking what was i thinkin. then he kills her for no good reason. it shows that he is still a hard core murdering gangster. and its the funniest joke in the game. if you actually got the joke you wouldnt even debate the topic. its hilarious.
there must be a way to ask the game makers. a actual gta sight or something. ill leave it up to someone else to do that.

they wudnt hav made that last video with maria being soo annoying to end the game if claude didnt shoot her. that wud be random and stupid.

sory im not good at explaining the joke mabe someone could do better.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 04:09 AM

I say that Claude shot her, but she didn't die. The medics revived her like they did Claude and the countless peds that are killed. She then found another guy and moved to Vice City.

Just a little fanfiction there for ya. wink.gif

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 04:17 AM

QUOTE (phantom2510 @ Jun 12 2009, 04:09)
I say that Claude shot her, but she didn't die. The medics revived her like they did Claude and the countless peds that are killed. She then found another guy and moved to Vice City.

Just a little fanfiction there for ya. wink.gif

Agreed! Well, only because that'd make a good story...

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 04:48 AM

Claude killed her. She was a drug using, two timing, bi sexual, annoying bitch who almost got him killed many times. He didn't give a sh*t and killed the bitch. I only wish I could had seen it. Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif That would be a good show! Or better yet they could had let me do it!

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 04:59 AM

QUOTE (bobgtafan @ Jun 12 2009, 04:48)
Claude killed her. She was a drug using, two timing, bi sexual, annoying bitch who almost got him killed many times. He didn't give a sh*t and killed the bitch. I only wish I could had seen it. Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif That would be a good show! Or better yet they could had let me do it!

Yeah, all she really cared about was money. For example, she "loved" Toni until she found out he wasn't rich. Pfft, I was glad to hear the sound of a gunshot at the end of III.




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