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[dudester123]

These drivers suck ass. I had normal water, now with the 'gta' drivers my water is missing a texture, it looks like sh*t.

[miocene]

I seem to be limited at the moment by my GPU. My cpu says 76% used and my graphics says 99/100% used.
I'm considering getting a 8800/9800 GT.
Do you think its worth it on my system?

[KIRKAD12]

those drivers don't help much...biggest update is all up to patch.

[KIRKAD12]

QUOTE (miocene @ Dec 7 2008, 14:01)

I seem to be limited at the moment by my GPU. My cpu says 76% used and my graphics says 99/100% used. I'm considering getting a 8800/9800 GT. Do you think its worth it on my system?

no...wait for first patch and then you can decide better what you have to do and what you really need....and plus for all now, with crisis time prices are on very high

[jima]

Ok, so I updated the drivers for my 7600 GT to the new beta ones.
Made no difference. I don't know about FPS, but I still have the same problems as before.

The game keeps loading, with pictures of different people. When I alt-tab, and alt-tab back, the game loads. But I have no in-game menu, and no radar (just the radar blips). I have no money or weapon indicator, except if I die. Then I am resurrected outside the hospital, and I can see the money and weapon indicator for a couple of seconds and then they disappear.

I have no subtitles and no "name of current road", except when I die.

In Romans apartment I hear the *beeps* but see no explaining text.

[dog_day_sunrise]

QUOTE (jima @ Dec 7 2008, 15:51)

Ok, so I updated the drivers for my 7600 GT to the new beta ones. Made no difference. I don't know about FPS, but I still have the same problems as before. The game keeps loading, with pictures of different people. When I alt-tab, and alt-tab back, the game loads. But I have no in-game menu, and no radar (just the radar blips). I have no money or weapon indicator, except if I die. Then I am resurrected outside the hospital, and I can see the money and weapon indicator for a couple of seconds and then they disappear. I have no subtitles and no "name of current road", except when I die. In Romans apartment I hear the *beeps* but see no explaining text.

It's your GPU. It can't handle the game, basically.

Some of the fastest and largest memory 7600's and 8600's can run it, but alot seem unable.

[nicotin3]

QUOTE (dog_day_sunrise @ Dec 7 2008, 15:53)

QUOTE (jima @ Dec 7 2008, 15:51) Ok, so I updated the drivers for my 7600 GT to the new beta ones. Made no difference. I don't know about FPS, but I still have the same problems as before. The game keeps loading, with pictures of different people. When I alt-tab, and alt-tab back, the game loads. But I have no in-game menu, and no radar (just the radar blips). I have no money or weapon indicator, except if I die. Then I am resurrected outside the hospital, and I can see the money and weapon indicator for a couple of seconds and then they disappear. I have no subtitles and no "name of current road", except when I die. In Romans apartment I hear the *beeps* but see no explaining text. It's your GPU. It can't handle the game, basically. Some of the fastest and largest memory 7600's and 8600's can run it, but alot seem unable.

Are you saying his GPU cant handle the HUD and on screen text? Its just a bug or a driver issue...

[babarian225]

there was performance Drop for me.

I use 280Gtx and get 19000 3dmark06 and GTA 4 runs Choppy

after the drivers installation I got.

3dmark06 17000



Which is a total loss of 2000Points

[GTAander]

Tried these drivers. They do indeed give me a small boost in FPS. I don't know if anyone else has noticed but they also enable SLI. I have only tried "Nvidia recommended SLI" so far. I'm not sure if I'm getting any performance boost from SLI though as others here say they get a boost in FPS with just a single card. When I turn on SLI visual indicators, it does show as though SLI is working in game.

Major problem with these drivers (in fact any of the 180.xx drivers) is that they break SLI in Armed Assault (which I play a lot), they cause horrible flickering....

[dog_day_sunrise]

QUOTE (nicotin3 @ Dec 7 2008, 15:59)

Are you saying his GPU cant handle the HUD and on screen text? Its just a bug or a driver issue...

No, I'm saying his GPU can't handle the graphics, so it doesn't render anything. The majority of problems seem to be people with 78/86/9600 series cards and the drivers aren't an issue, because no-one else has the problem on the more powerful cards.

[vjHeaven]

There is no significant difference between ForceWare 180.60 and 180.84

BEFORE

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Statistics Average FPS: 20.84 Duration: 37.00 sec CPU Usage: 87% System memory usage: 97% Video memory usage: 74% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (85 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Highest View Distance: 53 Detail Distance: 60 Shadows Density 10 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT Video Driver version: 180.60 AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+

AFTER

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Statistics Average FPS: 22.26 Duration: 37.34 sec CPU Usage: 89% System memory usage: 85% Video memory usage: 90% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (75 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: Highest View Distance: 53 Detail Distance: 60 Shadows Density 10 Hardware Microsoft Windows XP Professional SP3 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT Video Driver version: 180.84 AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+

[jackass69]

Do someone know whay dont work on GeForce 8400M GS

[Ronaldoz]

Driverupdate 178.xx > 180.48 does well. I also oc my cpu, but i noticed a improve in the performance after using the betadrivers. Got messed up textures after playing for a while. Further it's working fine.

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Statistics Average FPS: 32.11 Duration: 37.15 sec CPU Usage: 96% System memory usage: 79% Video memory usage: 92% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: Medium Render Quality: High View Distance: 25 Detail Distance: 37 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ Video Driver version: 178.24 Audio Adapter: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU    E6750  @ 2.66GHz File ID: benchmark.cli

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Statistics Average FPS: 32.79 Duration: 37.17 sec CPU Usage: 97% System memory usage: 56% Video memory usage: 100% Graphics Settings Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (60 Hz) Texture Quality: High Render Quality: High View Distance: 60 Detail Distance: 100 Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ Video Driver version: 180.84 Audio Adapter: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU    E6750  @ 2.66GHz File ID: benchmark.cli Hardware Microsoft® Windows Vista" Home Premium Service Pack 1 Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+ Video Driver version: 180.84 Audio Adapter: Luidsprekers (Realtek High Definition Audio) Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU      E6750  @ 3,21Ghz File ID: benchmark.cli

[Zorgus]

updated yesterday, didnt improve my fps at all, i got a 8800 gtx

you guys have got better cpu's then mine, and still you got sh*t frame rates, not worth me upgrading my x2 core to a quad for like 5-6 fps.. lol

[eagle016]

QUOTE (GTAander @ Dec 7 2008, 18:03)

Tried these drivers. They do indeed give me a small boost in FPS. I don't know if anyone else has noticed but they also enable SLI. I have only tried "Nvidia recommended SLI" so far. I'm not sure if I'm getting any performance boost from SLI though as others here say they get a boost in FPS with just a single card. When I turn on SLI visual indicators, it does show as though SLI is working in game. Major problem with these drivers (in fact any of the 180.xx drivers) is that they break SLI in Armed Assault (which I play a lot), they cause horrible flickering....

You sure? My SLI doesn't work, only shows half the VRAM available in the "Graphics" section.

[duffman12]

QUOTE (babarian225 @ Dec 7 2008, 16:20)

there was performance Drop for me. I use 280Gtx and get 19000 3dmark06 and GTA 4 runs Choppy after the drivers installation I got. 3dmark06 17000 Which is a total loss of 2000Points

WOW, YOU CAN DO MATHS, HAVE A GOLD STAR

[Aeisae]

QUOTE (duffman12 @ Dec 8 2008, 09:54)

QUOTE (babarian225 @ Dec 7 2008, 16:20) there was performance Drop for me. I use 280Gtx and get 19000 3dmark06 and GTA 4 runs Choppy after the drivers installation I got. 3dmark06 17000 Which is a total loss of 2000Points WOW, YOU CAN DO MATHS, HAVE A GOLD STAR

wtf , stfu .

[mkey82]

QUOTE (eagle016 @ Dec 8 2008, 11:28)

You sure? My SLI doesn't work, only shows half the VRAM available in the "Graphics" section.

Both cards need their VRAM, it doesn't add up.

Peopel expecting more then 10% performance increase with the new driver are misguided. Also, make sure to remove old drivers properly before installing new ones. I.e. use Driver Cleaner.

[pinky]

Dunno, I got a 15FPS increase between the driver and commandline tweaks. Almost 40% increase for me.
I think it results different for everyone so you are best to try it out for yourselves.

[mkey82]

I believe in your case it's because of the SLI.

Generally, such boosts I would assign to various issues with previous driver versions and OS problems. In my case (ATI) I have yet to seen such increase in some game performance. Even ATI states figures of 5 to 10% increase in drivers readme.

[babarian225]

The new drivers won't change a thing if you have a 780i and GTX280. I did a fresh XP32 install just to test the new drivers, as so many users reported have better fps and there is almost no difference. I have perfectly set up bios, the XP is original, I installed just the latest drivers + SP3, so there is NO WAY there was a problem with my software or configuration. The new drivers won't change a thing on any PC with 780i + GTX280 (assuming that there was no problem BEFORE you installed the drivers. It could have been there was something messed up before and the new drivers somehow fixed it, giving you a better fps).

[GTAander]

QUOTE (eagle016 @ Dec 8 2008, 09:28)

QUOTE (GTAander @ Dec 7 2008, 18:03) Tried these drivers. They do indeed give me a small boost in FPS.  I don't know if anyone else has noticed but they also enable SLI.  I have only tried "Nvidia recommended SLI" so far.  I'm not sure if I'm getting any performance boost from SLI though as others here say they get a boost in FPS with just a single card.  When I turn on SLI visual indicators, it does show as though SLI is working in game. Major problem with these drivers (in fact any of the 180.xx drivers) is that they break SLI in Armed Assault (which I play a lot), they cause horrible flickering.... You sure? My SLI doesn't work, only shows half the VRAM available in the "Graphics" section.

If you want to make sure SLI is working, or how much it is working heres how:

Go to nvidia control panel.
look up the top of the window where it says "File","Edit",View", next there should be a "3D Settings" menu, click this.
In the drop down menu, put a tick beside "Show SLI Visual Indicators"

now in game you will see a green bar down the left side of the screen showing how much SLI is working.

[KIRKAD12]

QUOTE (Nillansan @ Dec 6 2008, 01:47)

QUOTE (dnottis @ Dec 5 2008, 23:32) NVIDIA recommends that you update your system with the following GeForce v180.84 driver for the best experience on Grand Theft Auto IV: http://www.nzone.com..._downloads.html Grab them now!! Congrats Nvidia Card owners, I hope ATi will do something about the performance problems as well. Let us know if there's any improvement.

owned...old news

[craig3000]

and ATI are adding to there drivers which they are going to release on Wednesday the 10th

[KIRKAD12]

QUOTE (craig3000 @ Dec 8 2008, 20:03)

and ATI are adding to there drivers which they are going to release on Wednesday the 10th

PS. Catalyst 8.12

[killer45acp]

180.84 drivers did not fix the error I am having.....

[jima]

Well, dog_day_sunrise it seems you were way off.

It wasn't my GPU. Its a bug in GTA:

http://www.gtaforums...&t=379062&st=0#

And as long as ppl with 9600GT cards are having problems I am not upgrading my GPU

[Blitz81]

Nice news and all, but what's the verdict? Does it help? If so, what is improved? Thanks!!!

[Xur]

No change for me either. My FPS is still all over the place going as high as 68 & dropping as low as 16. The benchmark gives me an average of around 45 but that's nowhere near the average I get in-game (25-30).

Oh well.

[Mirage1]

Hia Guys

In reference to the 7600 series problem I got the same thing... I tried DL'ing the patch given on GTA IV official site and some others i found links for here on the forum. (Including replacing the nv4_disp.inf file) with no luck.
I nor have the radar or text in in-game menus, and I to have the black water. The game runs smooth at 800X600 but I haven’t checked for higher resses as I’m currently just interested in getting the graphs running. I know many of you claim it’s the GPU. But running SLI with 2x 7600 EN GT 256 DDR3 the engine seems to be working, as it runs smooth and with no lag at all. With the 180.84 driver recommended by Nvidia (I´m aware it’s for recommended spec cards, but thought I would give it a go)

As you can see below the radar is missing, but the SLI indicator isn't maxed out. which makes me suspicious to it being a matter of buggy driver / blockade by Rockstar rather than a hardware bug.
Am I totally off on this suspicion?