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Posted 24 July 2008 - 03:48 AM Edited by DLmosley, 24 July 2008 - 03:55 AM.

alright i know alot of you are "no not again, f*ck vice city" but hear it out

The story would be like this:

the game opens up with a mid-30s hardened Latino man named Carlito Mendoza walking out of prison being escorted by a couple of guards into a prison bus just outside of the city. Diego is recently released from a 15 year stint after being busted during a raid of his and his half-brother's drug warehouse. while in prison he learned that his half-brother, Miguel, had set him up so that he would take the fall and Miguel would become the heir to their father, an old school big time 70s-80s drug lord, and rebuild his empire. now that carlito is out he wants revenge and with the help of new friends and a debt owed to a cellmate and friend from the past, he will stop at nothing to avenge his name.

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Carlito Mendoza

Miguel Diaz- the illegitimate son of Armando Mendoza and main antagonist

Armando Mendoza aka Papi Chulo- drug kingpin who ran the island drug trade from the early 70's to the mid 80's until his disappearance in '86

Alicia Mendoza- Carlito's mother

Chancho- Colombian gang leader allied with Diaz

Jeremiah Cane aka King Judah- ex-yardie (or Hatian haven't decided) drug runner, Carlito's cell mate for 3 years before being paroled 4 months before Carlito's release. Carlito's only friend after being released from prison

Stu and Dwayne Cliff- Leaders of White Supremacists

Tomas Riviera aka El Jefe Viejo-
- Carlito's mentor and cell mate for most of his prison term who taught him everything about the drug world and of life beforing dying in their shared prison cell. Tomas was also a good friend of Carlito's father.

now with this idea the franchise can move on into the drug wars in florida and the caribbean which was somewhat explored in vice city but not enough to say that was what both(psp and ps2) games were all about. That doesn't mean the next one would be all about drugs because i definitely don't want another scarface remake.

also it could lead to the next logical character for the series, a Hispanic or Caribbean oriented character.

as for the map layout i think that the map should be like vice city as the large island at the top, that has two keys one the size of Broker(not including Dukes) and then one the size of Bohan as well as maybe one or two smaller islands just hanging out there and then there being another large island a little ways out form the keys, which would be your Jamaican or Cuban-esque counterpart. the whole thin would be about slightly smaller or equal to SA

maybe something like this
(Edit: i made this shoddy sketch pretty fast without much thought but my idea was to maybe have the big island on the bottom not be attached by roadways and instead there be a large dock/ seaplane port at the bottom key... oh and sorry for the crap drawing.)

this could also bring back a lot of the old elements forgotten from four like planes, perhaps territories, and property buying as well as all the new features plus some more.

i'll continue if i get good responses

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Posted 24 July 2008 - 03:51 PM Edited by Rucke, 24 July 2008 - 03:53 PM.

Post it here if you want it to be in the a Build your own GTA competition icon14.gif
http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=360979
Nice story btw

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:44 AM

if carlito was in prison during the 30's, wouldn't he be pretty old (70-80 years depending if hes 20 to 30 years old)?

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE (kareljanis @ Jul 24 2008, 22:44)
if carlito was in prison during the 30's, wouldn't he be pretty old (70-80 years depending if hes 20 to 30 years old)?

what i meant was that he is in his mid 30's around 35 or 36, meaning he was incarcerated when he was 20-21 (15 year stint)

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 07:26 PM

topic starter. read my signature!

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (GTA_dog @ Jul 27 2008, 14:26)
topic starter. read my signature!

Yeah you're a pretty funny guy, huh?

Why don't you add something that relates to the topic, instead of making jokes about people you don't know, cause you're not making anyone laugh bro.

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 01:30 AM

I don't get it. How could he find out his half brother set him up if he was in prison?

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Posted 28 July 2008 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE (DLmosley @ Jul 27 2008, 14:35)
QUOTE (GTA_dog @ Jul 27 2008, 14:26)
topic starter. read my signature!

Yeah you're a pretty funny guy, huh?

Why don't you add something that relates to the topic, instead of making jokes about people you don't know, cause you're not making anyone laugh bro.

the next installment of GTA will be GTA 10 and GTA IV just got in the 4th generation. GTA 5 means we are entering the next gen... again, or it means we will be getting San Andreas. Joke?

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 05:04 AM

QUOTE (GTA_dog @ Jul 28 2008, 18:19)
QUOTE (DLmosley @ Jul 27 2008, 14:35)
QUOTE (GTA_dog @ Jul 27 2008, 14:26)
topic starter. read my signature!

Yeah you're a pretty funny guy, huh?

Why don't you add something that relates to the topic, instead of making jokes about people you don't know, cause you're not making anyone laugh bro.

the next installment of GTA will be GTA 10 and GTA IV just got in the 4th generation. GTA 5 means we are entering the next gen... again, or it means we will be getting San Andreas. Joke?

i definitely get what your saying about the number sequence to generation ratio. I'm just saying instead of pointing out flaws in my topic title to get a laugh or whatever only, you could have also added some constructive criticism, approval, or even saying "this sh*t is crab balls" would have been more appreciated bro, just saying.


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Posted 01 August 2008 - 06:51 AM

wow another generic VC/ carribean thread. Not to sh*t on you but it seems only the threads that have had the same themes or basicly the same everything are the only threads that pop up and stay getting replies in the Next forum.

I think the whole Next forum is pointless because we keep getting the same f*cking threads every day and the threads that have new ideas get ignored and over shadowed by duplicate threads.

sh*t there was more originality for the next GTA in the IV section.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 08:06 AM

It CANT be GTA V.
Look how long it took to make a new game engine , from III to IV.
Every new number - new engine.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Sergi @ Aug 1 2008, 01:51)
wow another generic VC/ carribean thread. Not to sh*t on you but it seems only the threads that have had the same themes or basicly the same everything are the only threads that pop up and stay getting replies in the Next forum.

I think the whole Next forum is pointless because we keep getting the same f*cking threads every day and the threads that have new ideas get ignored and over shadowed by duplicate threads.

sh*t there was more originality for the next GTA in the IV section.

You know, i actually do agree with you about the lack of originality going on in this forum but things have to be taken into consideration. GTA was first created not to be a pure crime simulation but to be a parody of America and all its policies. knowing this chances are that Rockstar will never move GTA out of America. Believe me i would love to see GTA in Italy or Brazil, but it will probably never happen because GTA=America.

Having taken this into account you then have to look at locations to build a GTA universe in. Well, what are the three biggest crimes in America? Theft, Drugs, and Murder. Now what are the crime capitals of America? New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, DC, Chicago, and Vegas.

Well Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and DC all resemble New York to much with maybe the exception of DC, so thats already 3 cities gone. New York has been done to death, so its gone. LA will probably never be done better than it was in SA albeit it looking better with the new engine. VC did Miami fairly well but i do think it could be done slightly better with Miami's whole drug influence ( i just think VC was more of building an empire with it only drugs playing a very minor role in it, which i don't feel is true Miami). I do feel Vegas was done poorly in SA so it could be a potential new game. DC could be interesting but i think a game based only in DC would be to small and boring, but who knows it could work.

So you're left with Vegas and Miami as the most realistic next choice for the games, and that's probably why they are the most repeated topics on this forum. Everyone else just wants GTA to be based on their cities or countries.

Personally i thing GTA= Rio would be the sh*t, but i don't see it happening.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (DLmosley @ Aug 1 2008, 20:18)
QUOTE (Sergi @ Aug 1 2008, 01:51)
wow another generic VC/ carribean thread. Not to sh*t on you but it seems only the threads that have had the same themes or basicly the same everything are the only threads that pop up and stay getting replies in the Next forum.

I think the whole Next forum is pointless because we keep getting the same f*cking threads every day and the threads that have new ideas get ignored and over shadowed by duplicate threads.

sh*t there was more originality for the next GTA in the IV section.

You know, i actually do agree with you about the lack of originality going on in this forum but things have to be taken into consideration. GTA was first created not to be a pure crime simulation but to be a parody of America and all its policies. knowing this chances are that Rockstar will never move GTA out of America. Believe me i would love to see GTA in Italy or Brazil, but it will probably never happen because GTA=America.

Having taken this into account you then have to look at locations to build a GTA universe in. Well, what are the three biggest crimes in America? Theft, Drugs, and Murder. Now what are the crime capitals of America? New York, Miami, LA, Detroit, DC, Chicago, and Vegas.

Well Chicago, Detroit, Boston, and DC all resemble New York to much with maybe the exception of DC, so thats already 3 cities gone. New York has been done to death, so its gone. LA will probably never be done better than it was in SA albeit it looking better with the new engine. VC did Miami fairly well but i do think it could be done slightly better with Miami's whole drug influence ( i just think VC was more of building an empire with it only drugs playing a very minor role in it, which i don't feel is true Miami). I do feel Vegas was done poorly in SA so it could be a potential new game. DC could be interesting but i think a game based only in DC would be to small and boring, but who knows it could work.

So you're left with Vegas and Miami as the most realistic next choice for the games, and that's probably why they are the most repeated topics on this forum. Everyone else just wants GTA to be based on their cities or countries.

Personally i thing GTA= Rio would be the sh*t, but i don't see it happening.

Well there are numerous options for R*. Make their very own uniqe cities ala GTA III LC. GTA III LC didn't resmeble any city but it had features that are in other cities. Another thing is the time period things. A LC in the 70s would have been great especially with how bad crime was. Hell a LC in the early 90s would have been great because 1987-1994 NY was the most dangerous place in the US especially in 1992-1993. Not to mention most cities look differntly from how they looked 10,20 and 30 years prior so there would be enough changes to make the cities feel differnt enough.

Also they could do cities that remseble each other but make them unique enough. Yes some could argue a Philly or Chicago GTA would look to much like LC. Well all R* has to do is not make them resmeble the true life cities so much but they resmeble them enough to make you know what they're based on. Also you have to consider the fact that the cities are differnt cities so why they may resemble each other they are still comepletely differnt cities.

I perosnally think R* f*cked up with trying to make replicas of real life cites as places in GTA. I mean look at places in comics. Gotham for example looks like no real city in the US but it's based on NY and Chicago but it has it's own unigueness. Metroplis lisn't based on any real life city and it looks very unique.

VC, Los Santos, San Fiero, LAs Venturas and IV LC were poitless to me. I mean yes I liked the locations but why base them off real life cities and not just on your own idea? I mean in the GTAverse it's confirmed that the real life cities and states do exist to some extent so why would LC or Los Santos be direct replicas of NY or LA? That's where III LC had it right. LC in III was unique and didn't resemble a real lifecity but it had those charcterisics. No Statue of Liberty replicas or anything. If R* wants to do allmost exact replicas of these cities then why don't they just make the real life cities in game and call them by theirreal name instead of Liberty City(IV) or Los Santos?

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 09:22 PM

QUOTE (Sergi @ Aug 1 2008, 15:31)

Well there are numerous options for R*. Make their very own uniqe cities ala GTA III LC. GTA III LC didn't resmeble any city but it had features that are in other cities. Another thing is the time period things. A LC in the 70s would have been great especially with how bad crime was. Hell a LC in the early 90s would have been great because 1987-1994 NY was the most dangerous place in the US especially in 1992-1993. Not to mention most cities look differntly from how they looked 10,20 and 30 years prior so there would be enough changes to make the cities feel differnt enough.

Also they could do cities that remseble each other but make them unique enough. Yes some could argue a Philly or Chicago GTA would look to much like LC. Well all R* has to do is not make them resmeble the true life cities so much but they resmeble them enough to make you know what they're based on. Also you have to consider the fact that the cities are differnt cities so why they may resemble each other they are still comepletely differnt cities.

I perosnally think R* f*cked up with trying to make replicas of real life cites as places in GTA. I mean look at places in comics. Gotham for example looks like no real city in the US but it's based on NY and Chicago but it has it's own unigueness. Metroplis lisn't based on any real life city and it looks very unique.

VC, Los Santos, San Fiero, LAs Venturas and IV LC were poitless to me. I mean yes I liked the locations but why base them off real life cities and not just on your own idea? I mean in the GTAverse it's confirmed that the real life cities and states do exist to some extent so why would LC or Los Santos be direct replicas of NY or LA? That's where III LC had it right. LC in III was unique and didn't resemble a real lifecity but it had those charcterisics. No Statue of Liberty replicas or anything. If R* wants to do allmost exact replicas of these cities then why don't they just make the real life cities in game and call them by theirreal name instead of Liberty City(IV) or Los Santos?

I definitely agree with you on that, i mean if Rockstar wants to make a true American (criminal lol) experience for a GTA they should take all these cities that i mentioned and combine them in some way. What i mean is take the best (wait... worst) of each of these cities and mold them into one totally f*cked up city.

for example each of these cities have something unique about them than the other:

New York- has almost every race of people living in one city, a true melting pot and crime capital in the 70s-90s

Miami- known as the Drug running capital of America in the 80's

LA- Gang Central in the 90s

Vegas- Mob heaven back in the day

Imagine if they built one huge city with all these things in one set in modern times. you would have a metropolis center, along with its slums and everything with a huge casino district overrun by the mob. then there would be the suburban district with upscale houses on one block and then south central neighborhoods infested with every major street gang represented in some fashion. all of this set in the Miami / LA climate, along with the drug running a drug crimes, i think this would be pretty cool.

the best part about it is that it wouldn't look like any other city we know, it would just have simple nuances of each of these major cities that gives you the feeling of " hey well that looks kinda like LA, but this place over here looks more like New York".

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE (DLmosley @ Aug 1 2008, 21:22)
QUOTE (Sergi @ Aug 1 2008, 15:31)

Well there are numerous options for R*. Make their very own uniqe cities ala GTA III LC. GTA III LC didn't resmeble any city but it had features that are in other cities. Another thing is the time period things. A LC in the 70s would have been great especially with how bad crime was. Hell a LC in the early 90s would have been great because 1987-1994 NY was the most dangerous place in the US especially in 1992-1993. Not to mention most cities look differntly from how they looked 10,20 and 30 years prior so there would be enough changes to make the cities feel differnt enough.

Also they could do cities that remseble each other but make them unique enough. Yes some could argue a Philly or Chicago GTA would look to much like LC. Well all R* has to do is not make them resmeble the true life cities so much but they resmeble them enough to make you know what they're based on. Also you have to consider the fact that the cities are differnt cities so why they may resemble each other they are still comepletely differnt cities.

I perosnally think R* f*cked up with trying to make replicas of real life cites as places in GTA. I mean look at places in comics. Gotham for example looks like no real city in the US but it's based on NY and Chicago but it has it's own unigueness. Metroplis lisn't based on any real life city and it looks very unique.

VC, Los Santos, San Fiero, LAs Venturas and IV LC were poitless to me. I mean yes I liked the locations but why base them off real life cities and not just on your own idea? I mean in the GTAverse it's confirmed that the real life cities and states do exist to some extent so why would LC or Los Santos be direct replicas of NY or LA? That's where III LC had it right. LC in III was unique and didn't resemble a real lifecity but it had those charcterisics. No Statue of Liberty replicas or anything. If R* wants to do allmost exact replicas of these cities then why don't they just make the real life cities in game and call them by theirreal name instead of Liberty City(IV) or Los Santos?

I definitely agree with you on that, i mean if Rockstar wants to make a true American (criminal lol) experience for a GTA they should take all these cities that i mentioned and combine them in some way. What i mean is take the best (wait... worst) of each of these cities and mold them into one totally f*cked up city.

for example each of these cities have something unique about them than the other:

New York- has almost every race of people living in one city, a true melting pot and crime capital in the 70s-90s

Miami- known as the Drug running capital of America in the 80's

LA- Gang Central in the 90s

Vegas- Mob heaven back in the day

Imagine if they built one huge city with all these things in one set in modern times. you would have a metropolis center, along with its slums and everything with a huge casino district overrun by the mob. then there would be the suburban district with upscale houses on one block and then south central neighborhoods infested with every major street gang represented in some fashion. all of this set in the Miami / LA climate, along with the drug running a drug crimes, i think this would be pretty cool.

the best part about it is that it wouldn't look like any other city we know, it would just have simple nuances of each of these major cities that gives you the feeling of " hey well that looks kinda like LA, but this place over here looks more like New York".

Exactly. R* needs to start making cities like LC in III. Completely original and looks nothing like a real life city. There could be dozens of cities in doezen of states made with this idea.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 09:39 PM

I thought the LC in GTA 3 was great since it had alot of different things like the car crusher, warehouses, docks, car dealerships. They really should make another place like that.

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Posted 06 August 2008 - 10:10 PM Edited by Kevin143, 06 August 2008 - 10:12 PM.

QUOTE (DLmosley @ Jul 24 2008, 03:48)
alright i know alot of you are "no not again, f*ck vice city" but hear it out

The story would be like this:

the game opens up with a mid-30s hardened Latino man named Carlito Mendoza walking out of prison being escorted by a couple of guards into a prison bus just outside of the city. Diego is recently released from a 15 year stint after being busted during a raid of his and his half-brother's drug warehouse. while in prison he learned that his half-brother, Miguel, had set him up so that he would take the fall and Miguel would become the heir to their father, an old school big time 70s-80s drug lord, and rebuild his empire. now that carlito is out he wants revenge and with the help of new friends and a debt owed to a cellmate and friend from the past, he will stop at nothing to avenge his name.

Characters:

Carlito Mendoza

Miguel Diaz- the illegitimate son of Armando Mendoza and main antagonist

Armando Mendoza aka Papi Chulo- drug kingpin who ran the island drug trade from the early 70's to the mid 80's until his disappearance in '86

Alicia Mendoza- Carlito's mother

Chancho- Colombian gang leader allied with Diaz

Jeremiah Cane aka King Judah- ex-yardie (or Hatian haven't decided) drug runner, Carlito's cell mate for 3 years before being paroled 4 months before Carlito's release. Carlito's only friend after being released from prison

Stu and Dwayne Cliff- Leaders of White Supremacists

Tomas Riviera aka El Jefe Viejo-
- Carlito's mentor and cell mate for most of his prison term who taught him everything about the drug world and of life beforing dying in their shared prison cell. Tomas was also a good friend of Carlito's father.

now with this idea the franchise can move on into the drug wars in florida and the caribbean which was somewhat explored in vice city but not enough to say that was what both(psp and ps2) games were all about. That doesn't mean the next one would be all about drugs because i definitely don't want another scarface remake.

also it could lead to the next logical character for the series, a Hispanic or Caribbean oriented character.

as for the map layout i think that the map should be like vice city as the large island at the top, that has two keys one the size of Broker(not including Dukes) and then one the size of Bohan as well as maybe one or two smaller islands just hanging out there and then there being another large island a little ways out form the keys, which would be your Jamaican or Cuban-esque counterpart. the whole thin would be about slightly smaller or equal to SA

maybe something like this
(Edit: i made this shoddy sketch pretty fast without much thought but my idea was to maybe have the big island on the bottom not be attached by roadways and instead there be a large dock/ seaplane port at the bottom key... oh and sorry for the crap drawing.)

this could also bring back a lot of the old elements forgotten from four like planes, perhaps territories, and property buying as well as all the new features plus some more.

i'll continue if i get good responses

Good idea, perhaps that big island city could be based on Orlando or something...

Vice city would be for those who like the killing/criminal aspects of GTA while Orlando would be available for those who like life simulators...

But as previous posters have said, a city that uses aspects of several different landmarks of various places of fame around the world would be great rather than trying for a single city replica time after time.

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Posted 08 August 2008 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (DLmosley @ Jul 27 2008, 02:13)
QUOTE (kareljanis @ Jul 24 2008, 22:44)
if carlito was in prison during the 30's, wouldn't he be pretty old (70-80 years depending if hes 20 to 30 years old)?

what i meant was that he is in his mid 30's around 35 or 36, meaning he was incarcerated when he was 20-21 (15 year stint)

oh i guess i missread




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