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Posted 26 August 2009 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Black-hawk @ Aug 26 2009, 12:38)
Can the OP update the first post? Those paint comparisons looks excruciatingly painful to look at. Just use thumbnails and tables. Stretched out pixelized images full of jpg artifacts are for people with a geosites account, not gtaf.

Totally agreed.
I'm not saying anything bad about gamesguru job on this topic tough (he did an awesome job in getting all these infos and thing), but these images ain't good. confused.gif

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (RogerFH @ Aug 26 2009, 12:50)
QUOTE (Black-hawk @ Aug 26 2009, 12:38)
Can the OP update the first post? Those paint comparisons looks excruciatingly painful to look at. Just use thumbnails and tables. Stretched out pixelized images full of jpg artifacts are for people with a geosites account, not gtaf.

Totally agreed.
I'm not saying anything bad about gamesguru job on this topic tough (he did an awesome job in getting all these infos and thing), but these images ain't good. confused.gif

Well why don't one of you stop whining and make a NEW beta topic. Clearly the OP either doesn't know how to make tables and thumbnails or doesn't care.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 04:25 PM

I'm not whining, i'm just saying the images aren't good.
Jesus... ._.'

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE (RogerFH @ Aug 26 2009, 16:25)
I'm not whining, i'm just saying the images aren't good.
Jesus... ._.'

Still. If you think the beta topic needs an overhaul why not do it yourself?

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:01 PM Edited by RogerFH, 26 August 2009 - 05:04 PM.

It's a good idea. biggrin.gif
I'll try to later, if the creator of the thread don't mind... Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif

(Topic, Thread, whatever...)

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:08 PM

QUOTE (SLAYERMAGGOT @ Aug 26 2009, 05:42)
Hey guys, i found cellphones from peds/cutscenes.
I think some were in beta.

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Notice the whiz theme, it's maybe the beta version of the actual whiz theme.

I've never seen those phones used by peds or in cutscenes. Rockstar did say in an early interview that they were still coming up with a design for the phone, and that the one the reviewers saw wouldn't be final. Maybe these were some of the phones they came up with. I like that last "Whiz" one.

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:18 PM

I will fix that Whiz Theme and use it in my GTA IV Beta Mod.
I've read that preview too. May i make two versions of cell phones for the mod. smile.gif

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE (RogerFH @ Aug 26 2009, 17:01)
It's a good idea. biggrin.gif
I'll try to later, if the creator of the thread don't mind... Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif

(Topic, Thread, whatever...)

I don't think he'd mind. Just include a link back to here.

Anyways I look forward to it. icon14.gif smile.gif

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (foohy @ Aug 26 2009, 10:00)
QUOTE (RogerFH @ Aug 26 2009, 16:25)
I'm not whining, i'm just saying the images aren't good.
Jesus... ._.'

Still. If you think the beta topic needs an overhaul why not do it yourself?

Because the creator of the topic is responsible for providing quality content and not slapped together images in Paint? The "YOU DON'T LIKE GM'S VEHICLES? WELL MAKE YOUR OWN" argument isn't really valid since we're giving productive criticism, you know in order to improve the quality of the thread and not squint in pain while looking at the provided images.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 01:14 PM

What does we know about that car? Well, at the first look it's a 4-door sedan, looks kinda like an mix of Marbella, Virgo and GTA San Andreas Washington. What do you think?
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Orginal Screenshot here.

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That Taxi don't have badges/brand logo and there's a weird black thing on the beta license plates. The lightning looks also way differnt than in the final GTA IV.

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That's a billboard of the binco in the GTA IV Beta, it just had a Binco Logo, but still russian signs.

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That's the coach, looks nearly similar to the one from GTA 3, but have differnt windows and wheels. Also i think i have never seen that building with the US Flag.

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I think that was a very early version of GTA IV. The graphic was very early, i mean the shadows, lightning looked totally worse. Kinda like GTA SA.

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WTF? Rockstar Logos in a tunnel.

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Never seen that guy, and btw the cars in back look weird. Possible Beta Boxville?

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Yellow Airplanes lol.gif

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Cherice McCormic seems to be a removed character, may a gf of Niko?

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 01:31 PM Edited by gamesguru, 31 August 2009 - 04:28 PM.

I can't believe people are still finding stuff. About the pictures, they look terrible I know. I kinda rushed it. I had to make them like that so they wouldn't take a century to load and also fit in the one post and not stretch the page (plus I only had paint then because I only just got my new computer, I've got Photoshop now). I guess I could update it with better looking ones, but I'm really busy at the moment, so I might not edit it for some time.

And Thumbnails? You do realise there is a picture limit? rolleyes.gif

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 02:47 PM

QUOTE (gamesguru @ Aug 29 2009, 13:31)
I can't believe people are still finding stuff. About the pictures, they look terrible I know. I kinda rushed it. I had to make them like that so they wouldn't take a century to load and also fit in the one post and not stretch the page (plus I only had paint then because I only just got my new computer, I've got Photoshop now). I guess I could update it with better looking ones, but I'm really busy at the moment, so I might not edit it for some time.

And Thumbnails? You do realise there is a picture limit? rolleyes.gif

You could request that a mod give you a couple posts below the main one. I think they can do that...with they magical moderator powers lol.gif dontgetit.gif

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 03:22 PM

I'm going to get to work on the redesign now. Includes new sections (Niko, Vehicles, Characters, Environment, Weapons, Graphics, Misc, Television). I might also include a little paragraph of stuff that was mentioned in previews that would be in game, but there isn't pictures of. But I can't remember everything off by heart, so if you could tell me some of the stuff (like telegraph poles) and provide a source, then it would help, thanks icon14.gif

Wow, this thread is over a year old! lol.gif

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 03:46 PM

Yeah man, very good news wink.gif

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 03:47 PM

I'm going to put a mention/link to your BETA mod as well wink.gif .

Just a teaser:
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Posted 29 August 2009 - 05:16 PM

The beta looks awesome.

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 05:30 PM

the analysis in the banner looks kinda squashed, but great work haha!! biggrin.gif

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 06:15 PM

Huge update on the front page. It looks miles better now.
I've still yet to finish it though icon14.gif .

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 07:48 PM

I got to say, really nice work, looks pretty awesome biggrin.gif
But some things aren't correct:
- The jumper is actually in the game.
- The blue jacket is buyable too.

And well, these aren't all beta features, but as you said, you haven't done all. icon14.gif

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 08:15 PM

I know the blue jacket is in the game. But not with that blue jumper. And what jumper do you mean? The one in the Vlad shot or the one above it? Thanks for the notification icon14.gif . Just added a Weapons section. I also noticed I haven't added the Yacht mast and train exterior to the Vehicles list. I'll see when I can next update the front page as I'm busy with my website at the moment.

Still to be added:

- Environment
- Graphics
- Scripted
- Other

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 11:54 AM

Amazing man, one of the best topics on the forum, keep going. cookie.gif

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 12:38 PM Edited by JonnyVercetti, 30 August 2009 - 12:41 PM.

QUOTE (gamesguru @ Aug 29 2009, 21:15)
I know the blue jacket is in the game. But not with that blue jumper. And what jumper do you mean? The one in the Vlad shot or the one above it?

Yeah, the one with Vlad. You can buy that leather jacket with the black and red top in the Russian shop, it's just a different colour to the original top that Niko arrives at the start.

EDIT - Also the blue jacket is with the blue top because I got it from Modo.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 03:53 PM

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Maybe that was Faustin's normal outfit or the beta version of his suit (the cutscene one)

I found that picture in "pc-data-maps-interiors-generic-public_2.img-faustinmansion.txd.wtd" icon14.gif

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 04:26 PM Edited by gamesguru, 31 August 2009 - 04:28 PM.

Nice find. I have GTA IV PC now, but I need to take my Laptop back for one with an ATi card as the one I got is intel, and patches stop the game from working. So I haven't really bothered checking the game's files. I bet there's a f*ck-load of stuff in there though. That seems to be GTA artwork or even a painting that was meant to be in the game (up in the Faustin's house?). I don't think I will include it in the list though. Maybe I'll include a bonus little table at the bottom of the post with links to things like this icon14.gif .

The Bulgarin part is wrong as well, his hair is in fact grey. My mind baffles me sometimes. I'm going to check the jacket and jumper combo one when I get on the game next time as well, I haven't played singleplayer GTA IV in a days age.

EDIT: Just read the directory: "pc-data- maps-interiors -generic-public_2.img- faustinmansion .txd.wtd" Proves my point. It might be in the interior, you just can't see it (cutscene only).

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 04:41 PM Edited by SLAYERMAGGOT, 31 August 2009 - 04:43 PM.

Recently i posted a tons of new pics, may you could add some into your list wink.gif
Yep, it's Faustin's Mansion, i think there will be some mods soon which give you acess to these interiors. icon14.gif
EDIT: The GTA IV Special Edition Art Book would offer some cool things.
May someone who have it, can make some scans of it biggrin.gif

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 05:14 PM Edited by gamesguru, 31 August 2009 - 07:19 PM.

Yeah I've got the SE (including the booklet). Some cool things in there, I'll have to have another flick through it. I will do the lists and then I'll check your topic and the booklet for more stuff to add, thanks icon14.gif .

I'm also going to have a DLC section. More on that when I do it wink.gif .
EDIT: Just checked, I was right about the jacket-shirt combo. There is one very similar. But the shirt in the BETA is plain blue but this one it has some stripes at the bottom. However if you go to buy it in the Russian Shop you will see what it use to look like, as the BETA version is on the rails (representing the final one). So it was a low poly version.

UPDATE:
-Corrected grammar/spelling errors.
-Added some content to the vehicles section.
-Corrected some misplaced content.
-Added a Graphics section.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 06:16 PM Edited by SLAYERMAGGOT, 02 September 2009 - 11:47 PM.

Nice work gamesguru icon14.gif
Ok, not much but i found a billboard of the beta phone with different keypad, also have another whiz theme.
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EDIT: I think i found a removed GTA IV Character: Cherise McCormic

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Looks like she sitting in a stretch.

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Tiffany Gibson is a reality television personality and one of the stars of the third season of The Bad Girls Club.

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Like GTA Wiki stated, does Cherise McCormic appeared in GTA San Andreas.

"Cherise McCormic(k?) is a 38 year old actress from San Fierro who appeared on a popular 80's sitcom. McCormick is said to have developed drug and alcohol problems since falling out of the public eye and is also believed to have appeared in porn movies for crack cocaine. In addition she has six known convictions: for, possession of cocaine in 2001, Driving While Intoxicated in 2003, Resisting Arrest in 2004, possession of crack cocaine in 2005, Prostitution in 2006 and finally a conviction for an obscene performance in the year 2007. In 2008 she appeared on the hit T.V. show Waining with the Stars."

She does not looks like 38 mercie_blink.gif , more like 18 or younger.
And if she was 38 in the 80s, then she should be in GTA IV (2008) over 50? suicidal.gif wtf this is weird. user posted image
And btw she isn't in the Liberty City Police Database.

EDIT2: Here are more infos about GTA Beta's in general, also the GTA IV Beta. Some things are curious.
In the german gta wiki they say, that ""Hedgebury"" was one borough which were only in the beta version of GTA IV, and also they said that "Goatherd" was a borough of Dukes in beta. Well i think these facts are fake. dozingoff.gif

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 06:39 AM

I cringe every time I read "the" beta...

As if there was only one beta iteration.

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 02:51 PM

Yeah, but a 'BETA' is a stage, a process; not a version label.

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Posted 04 September 2009 - 03:08 PM

QUOTE (SLAYERMAGGOT @ Sep 2 2009, 12:16)
In the german gta wiki they say, that ""Hedgebury"" was one borough which were only in the beta version of GTA IV, and also they said that "Goatherd" was a borough of Dukes in beta. Well i think these facts are fake. dozingoff.gif

I'd say that the Hedgebury/Goatherd is fake info. They have no way of backing them up, there are no references or links.

Also, I think that Cherise McCormic is just a ped (I think I've seen her before). Also, her page on GTAWikia doesn't state that she appeared in San Andreas, it just says that she is from San Andreas (San Fierro).





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