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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:06 AM

I would be content driving a 993 Turbo S for the next 50 years. All the attributes of a true Porsche but quite a bit more user-friendly than any of the Porsches I've posted so far.

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#692

Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:14 AM

That Green is 300% Jaw-Dropping in the metal. This car is so special they let one into the Goodwood revival. Now I know Porsche haven't changed the ol' teardrop since the baby boom, but this machine is obviously not from 1960-whatever. What it is, is mindblowingly desirable.

Anyone got a spare hundred & twenty grand I could borrow? tounge.gif

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#693

Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:55 PM

All those 1960s and 1970s fiberglass racers have given me a trouser tent the size of Big Ben.

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#694

Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

While this thing never raced, I still find it cool in that "the more cylinders, the better" kind of way.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:38 PM

To take a break from Porsches, some of my favorite black and white.

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#696

Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:25 PM

That McLaren (I think?) with the DFV Cosworth motor and the absurd wing is all kinds of awesome.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:02 PM Edited by Lurch, 19 February 2012 - 10:26 PM.

The black cars are Shadows and the white cars are Chaparrals. All of them running all aluminum big block Chevys and some of the Chaparrals running all aluminum small block Chevys.

Most Can Am Mclarens were running big block Chevys as well. Either running quad IDA Webbers or some type of ITB mechanical fuel injection. The rest were still GM pushrod V8's of some sort (small block Chevy and Oldsmobile). I don't think the Cosworths that Mclaren ran in their F1 cars of the time could come close to making Can-Am levels of power. No one could until turbocharging hit the scene. The 70 M14A and 71 M19A Mclaren F1 cars with DFV Cosworths were only making 430-450 hp. The Can Am Mclarens with aluminum BBC's of the same years were making 740-790 hp. In an unlimited engine type racing like Can Am, there's just no replacement for displacement. I don't know how much you could really punch a DFV Cosworth out to, but a 3 liter Cossie just can't touch a 7.6-8.4 liter BBC. Hell, 4.5 and 5 liter Porsche Flat 12's couldn't touch them until turbocharging.

And while on the subject of Mclarens.

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 06:48 AM Edited by Lurch, 29 February 2012 - 11:10 PM.

I also like the super-phallic looking post-war front engine sports racer era.

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Don't worry, eventually I will run out of cars that I have any interest in. sigh.gif

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Posted 20 February 2012 - 12:23 PM

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Classy. Cars I'll someday have parked on my driveway.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 04:42 AM

Back in the day when they did something other than F1.
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I just seen red. devil.gif

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#701

Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:42 AM

A few rarer (or at least less well known) 1960s and 70s racers-
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#702

Posted 25 February 2012 - 07:09 PM

I'm familiar with the Lola and the Mirage but what's the 2nd car and the F1 car?

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#703

Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:29 PM Edited by sivispacem, 25 February 2012 - 08:33 PM.

QUOTE (Lurch @ Saturday, Feb 25 2012, 20:09)
I'm familiar with the Lola and the Mirage but what's the 2nd car and the F1 car?

The Lola is a Chevron B16. Basically a mini Lola powered by an ITB'd and 2.3l stroked BMW M10 or Cosworth 4-pot. The second is a B8- again BMW powered but an older body design. You can still buy one new actually, at about 105k. The F1 car is also a Chevron, but a single seat DFV powered hillclimb car based on a stretched F5000 chassis.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 09:33 PM Edited by Lurch, 25 February 2012 - 09:37 PM.

What year is the first Chevron there? All the Chevron B16's I've found googling (except that photo) have the car more like this with the air ducts on the side and only 1 light per lens.

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The one you posted looks more like a late lola T70 but without the various little stick on air fins.
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I know there was a good deal of body sharing at the time for all the smaller companies so it could be a lola body on top a B16 cossie chassis?

Or someone just labled it wrong. When I google Team Gunston Chevron B16 I get results for the Gunston can am Chevron B19. But googling Gunston Lola T70 gives me a lot of cars that look identical to the one you posted.

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#705

Posted 25 February 2012 - 10:29 PM

Looks like a case of mislabelling. I remember seeing a number of B16s racing (and one up for auction) at Silverstone Classic last year.

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#706

Posted 26 February 2012 - 04:59 PM

Now, this is more like it!

http://www.speedlux....s/bmw-1-m-v8-6/

If I had the cash, I would in a heartbeat. It even looks good now that the downs-syndrome facelift infests our roads. Favourite bit: keep-fit hind glass! lol.gif

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#707

Posted 26 February 2012 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (visionist @ Sunday, Feb 26 2012, 17:59)
Now, this is more like it

That was featured in Performance BMW not so long ago. Fantastic piece of kit.

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#708

Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:12 PM

What did they make of it? I'd have figured that hefty-heffalump up front would kill the turn-in, but of course simply gaze at the gas and you're on planet-powerslide.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:27 PM

So want.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE (visionist @ Sunday, Feb 26 2012, 22:12)
I'd have figured that hefty-heffalump up front would kill the turn-in

The S65 is all-alloy and weighs less than most of the BMW 4-pots. Lower CoG and shorter block design than the straight sixes too, which means it's probably got better weight distribution if anything. There's a reason they keep on throwing 4L V8s into the endurance racing 1s/3s/Z4s...

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:33 PM

I was thinking an S65 has to weigh a good deal less than an N54. Straight 6's are just heavy by design. My iron block/alloy head M30 weighs as much as an all-iron small block chevy (around 500 lbs.).

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Posted 29 February 2012 - 09:51 PM

The 599 replacement's gone official:

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I'm not too sure what to think really. It'll boast 740BHP at 8500RPM from the usual V12. These numbers are pretty much meaningless to me; the most BHP I've driven was 250 tounge.gif I seriously think Ferrari have lost that magic they still had even with the 360. The 458 wouldn't be my choice over an MP4-12C.

Mclaren need to unveil the new F1 already.

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Posted 02 March 2012 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE (Lurch @ Wednesday, Feb 15 2012, 11:09)
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I had my eye on a used 911 Turbo ('10) last summer, had less than 10,000 on the clock and was listed for about 70k (i dont know if this would be considered cheap in europe but in China a like-new 911 Turbo for 70k is an absolute steal!) I was so close to getting it but at the last minute i flew to Macau for the weekend to meet some friends who were visiting and ended up losing the money I had allocated for the car ...

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:03 AM

By losing , I hope you meant 'spending', and not literally losing ?

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 12:42 PM

For those who dont know, Macau is the gambling capital of Asia. But hey, bright side is that I get 2 free rooms at the Venetian everytime i visit but really. I suppose I'd rather have the 911 so its something I'm not too happy about.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 01:16 PM

That's quite an achievement I must say.

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Posted 10 March 2012 - 10:43 PM

Am I the only one that thinks these full size Eldorado and Toronado based car haulers are the most awesome things ever?

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#718

Posted 10 March 2012 - 10:50 PM

I freaking love stuff like that, lol.

That white Toronado is excellent.

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#719

Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:16 AM

Why in the hell does that late model in the first picture have a giant wing on it?


Found this scouring earlier:

http://i.imgur.com/XHTTX.jpg

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#720

Posted 12 March 2012 - 07:18 AM

For downforce?

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