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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:49 AM

How come nobody ever posts gay porn? icon13.gif

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:51 AM

QUOTE (s-paco @ Apr 27 2008, 19:36)
Uh, i don't know about you. But the game has a 18+ rating, wtf did you expect?

Dude. its rated M. Which is 17+

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:55 AM

QUOTE (kidddfiasco @ Apr 28 2008, 00:51)
QUOTE (s-paco @ Apr 27 2008, 19:36)
Uh, i don't know about you. But the game has a 18+ rating, wtf did you expect?

Dude. its rated M. Which is 17+

Dude. Itís rated differently in different countries.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 12:56 AM Edited by derty, 28 April 2008 - 01:17 AM.

This game is rated M for mature in the states and has no more sexual deviance than any given teen comedy or half of the sitcoms. Please, give me a break. An M rating does not carry an age, it carries a level of responsibility for what one sees, Just like an R rating. If someome 17 or older takes you, or buys it for you, because they know you are mature enough, you can see.

For Example, IV:

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The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) stamped a "Mature" label on GTA: IV banning US retailers from selling the game to anyone less than 17 years old.


Banning the sale to people who are not old enough to budget their money (among other possible irresponsibilities!) . The Sale. I can buy this for my 13 year old cousin if I deem him mature enough. Same thing with a movie. I can take a 13 year old to Saw IV or American Pie, etc, if I find him to be mature enough. It's legal. One Hundred percent.

People don't give kids enough credit; thank god the law gives guardians, elders, and parents the right to make the choice and to shield their children from things before they are ready.

Be a good parent, don't show your disgust or dismay with a situation that doesn't deserve it. Not one bit. Not a single inkling.

If this was virtual sex DVDs of Briana Banks giving, I don't know dirty sanchez's or some sh*t, Then it's porn. AND even then, the label of "lewd" is quite arguable. So, kids and adults remember this and use it to your advantage and protection. Kids are American's too.

To be brutally honest; these laws protect your parents more than they protect you, because they are the ones responsible for what you do under their guard. That's why the rating system works that way. To not infringe on the rights of kids and parents, and to NOT put that control instead the hands of a fat sweaty games or movies dealer.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (-=Gr@ph1x=- @ Apr 27 2008, 19:35)
Well, I am disappointed at Rockstar for adding this STRONG sexual stuff. I mean it's gta after all... But I think they went too far. I think it's unfair to the younger teenagers(Under 16) because their parents will be upset if they see this on the game. I am 15. So I am going to hide this sex in-car crap and not be playing that mini game. It's really disturbing.

Ps: Was the 1st Person drive view (steering wheel view) Removed?????
                              ---------Hope Not---------

Thats why there's a clear 18 sticker on the front in europe. It's for adults. The adult humour is what makes it what it is. Never stopped me back in the day though. Besides if you want a teen friendly GTA just invest in bully...

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:26 AM

you just made a good point in WHY you shouldn't be playing the game... when I first got san andreas I was mature enough (at 15) to handle the content, you just basically stated you shouldn't be playing it, which is a good thing, on the other hand grow up and stop bitching

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:30 AM

I just checked the two real 'leaked' clips and LiveVideo, one by ThePitViper is pure police mayhem and car jacking, but the other highlights prostitutes and Hookers (titled as such) and every manner of sexual gratification appears depicted in the game, it is as graphic as Hot Coffee it almost seems to me, why is that the case? I hadn't seen it but speculated from the posts earlier that there was two forms of BJ/HJs.... It does seem rather graphic as I saw no steam on the windows as was speculated before as well.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:33 AM

If you are under 18, you shouldn't be here in the first place. Lock this topic.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:34 AM

QUOTE (xygtaxy @ Apr 27 2008, 19:37)
lol im 15, and idc ill prob even show my mom of me getting a bj in a videogame n than laugh with her lol

hell YEA!! baller status.

Yea the game is rated M for a reason. nuff said.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:34 AM

I have the game, I was surprised at how graphic the sex is, it's no worse than hot coffee. You can get actual BJs/HJs. From women and men.

And Niko f*cks men the same way he f*cks women. mercie_blink.gif

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:36 AM

I hope dirty don't go on rambling about how many kids are mature enough.... We got your point the first time, sheeessssss hahaha sigh.gif

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:36 AM

What A Dumb Douche Nozzle

Go die in a fire while headbutting a knife.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (ChaseMeFaster @ Apr 27 2008, 21:34)
I have the game, I was surprised at how graphic the sex is, it's no worse than hot coffee. You can get actual BJs/HJs. From women and men.

And Niko f*cks men the same way he f*cks women. mercie_blink.gif

So Niko is gay? That is so gay!!! Lol

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:37 AM

So don't f*ck the girls then... And the in car view was never confirmed, just rumored. There is a first person view, but just one with the hood in view of the camera, not actually in car.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:47 AM

yeah... the argument on the age is obvious... if your not of age, that's your own fault, don't PLAY IT IF YOU ARE NOT OF AGE AND/OR YOU ARE DISTURBED BY IT!!! GEEZ IT'S NOT IN ANYWAY R*'S FAULT..... kids have to stop complaining like everyone has said IT'S RATED FOR A REASON!

so now that this issue is settled

Is this actually definite? I didn't hear about this until now, and i'm kind of surprised that it got a M rating then..... if hot coffee wasn't as bad/was equal then why did they require games with Hot Coffee to be A?

if it's the same quality how did they get away with it now without it being A?

i'm not against it... the response to the first poster is obvious YOUR TOO YOUNG, i'm just wondering???

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:52 AM Edited by DeAdLy_cOoKiE, 28 April 2008 - 01:57 AM.

I agree, this game has some disturbing scenes. Don't get me wrong, I'm used to shooting people and running people over, I can live with that, I can even live with some form of sexual contexted stuff or swearing. It's a game... But once it's overloaded with this stuff (specifically to cater towards a certain group; not too bright people) like i'm gonna bust a cap, I'm gona lay you down after each and every sequence it brings the game down. I'm not to bothered if random people say these lines, but it's Niko that is saying this (in general I'm not a fan of the main character saying lines at all, take for instance Prey or Duke Nukem. In my opinion it does the opposite of immersing).. The drunk driving on the other hand is a completely fun addition.

There's no charm in this (The character in SA had more charm than Niko, even visiting prostitutes showing a bouncing car was fun, and just enough.. Even the Hot Coffee issue was contextual fun.. Now it's somewhat distasteful), nor is it artful for a game. In other words, this is more of a 'commercial' game instead of an immersive piece of art. Getting a M-rating is one thing, but specifically design a game with M-rating in mind, meaning go as far as you want with M-rated stuff is a bit too much.

Still an awesome game ofcourse, and I'm a fan. But I would prefer this toned down for the next GTA game. Different character, story. More fun elements like SA.

Excessive violence, dumbo swearing appeals mostly to those with a more shallow mind (the majority of people on earth). Those who like boxing games, wrestling and watching movies on specific crap related sites, and other low-moral standards. You average consumer, burger eating, loud stereo-sytems in cars (playing house beats), complaining rejects, lacking an eye for art, and claiming that einstein was moron and the matrix movies are boring and stupid.. (not even caring how to, or inable to spell correctly on a random forum). Something like that.

It's not that I don't like games, or GTA. It's just that I hate anything related to dumbness, more specifically dumb people (and big companies catering to their needs for profit).

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:53 AM

i think they should take an uncharted island, fill it with little kids and not let them leave untill there 18

think about it from our perspective...

im 25, and when i get on to gta 4s multiplayer i have to deal with little kids with their high pitched voices that NEVER stop talking

it gets old

so die please

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:56 AM

QUOTE (passthat420 @ Apr 27 2008, 21:53)
i think they should take an uncharted island, fill it with little kids and not let them leave untill there 18

think about it from our perspective...

im 25, and when i get on to gta 4s multiplayer i have to deal with little kids with their high pitched voices that NEVER stop talking

it gets old

so die please

Lol I feel your pain. Just try this line, "Come back when you hit puberty then I'll pwn you cuz your voice is still annoying."

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 01:59 AM

Dispite having a M-rating .. Noone is going to restrict 16yolds from playing this. Games are fun, GTA is fun. Everybody wants to play this even under 18..

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (DeAdLy_cOoKiE @ Apr 28 2008, 01:52)
I agree, this game has some disturbing scenes. Don't get me wrong, I'm used to shooting people and running people over, I can live with that, I can even live with some form of sexual contexted stuff or swearing. It's a game... But once it's overloaded with this stuff (specifically to cater towards a certain group; not too bright people) like i'm gonna bust a cap, I'm gona lay you down after each and every sequence it brings the game down. I'm not to bothered if random people say these lines, but it's Niko that is saying this (in general I'm not a fan of the main character saying lines at all, take for instance Prey or Duke Nukem. In my opinion it does the opposite of immersing).. The drunk driving on the other hand is a completely fun addition.

There's no charm in this (The character in SA had more charm than Niko, even visiting prostitutes showing a bouncing car was fun, and just enough.. Even the Hot Coffee issue was contextual fun.. Now it's somewhat distasteful), nor is it artful for a game. In other words, this is more of a 'commercial' game instead of an immersive piece of art. Getting a M-rating is one thing, but specifically design a game with M-rating in mind, meaning go as far as you want with M-rated stuff is a bit too much.

Still an awesome game ofcourse, and I'm a fan. But I would prefer this toned down for the next GTA game. Different character, story. More fun elements like SA.

Excessive violence, dumbo swearing appeals mostly to those with a more shallow mind (the majority of people on earth). Those who like boxing games, wrestling and watching movies on specific crap related sites, and other low-moral standards. You average consumer, burger eating, loud stereo-sytems in cars (playing house beats), complaining rejects, lacking an eye for art, and claiming that einstein was moron and the matrix movies are boring and stupid.. (not even caring how to, or inable to spell correctly on a random forum). Something like that.

It's not that I don't like games, or GTA. It's just that I hate anything related to dumbness, more specifically dumb people (and big companies catering to their needs for profit).

So words makes you feel uncomfortable wow suicidal.gif

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:12 AM

Yeh, that's only because I'm intelligent.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:13 AM

QUOTE (Uglulyx @ Apr 28 2008, 01:37)
QUOTE (ChaseMeFaster @ Apr 27 2008, 21:34)
I have the game, I was surprised at how graphic the sex is, it's no worse than hot coffee. You can get actual BJs/HJs. From women and men.

And Niko f*cks men the same way he f*cks women.  mercie_blink.gif

So Niko is gay? That is so gay!!! Lol

EEEWWWW THATS f*ckING DIRTY!!! cry.gif cry.gif nervous.gif lol.gif lol.gif ROFL!!!

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (DeAdLy_cOoKiE @ Apr 28 2008, 01:52)
I agree, this game has some disturbing scenes. Don't get me wrong, I'm used to shooting people and running people over, I can live with that, I can even live with some form of sexual contexted stuff or swearing. It's a game... But once it's overloaded with this stuff (specifically to cater towards a certain group; not too bright people) like i'm gonna bust a cap, I'm gona lay you down after each and every sequence it brings the game down. I'm not to bothered if random people say these lines, but it's Niko that is saying this (in general I'm not a fan of the main character saying lines at all, take for instance Prey or Duke Nukem. In my opinion it does the opposite of immersing).. The drunk driving on the other hand is a completely fun addition.

There's no charm in this (The character in SA had more charm than Niko, even visiting prostitutes showing a bouncing car was fun, and just enough.. Even the Hot Coffee issue was contextual fun.. Now it's somewhat distasteful), nor is it artful for a game. In other words, this is more of a 'commercial' game instead of an immersive piece of art. Getting a M-rating is one thing, but specifically design a game with M-rating in mind, meaning go as far as you want with M-rated stuff is a bit too much.

Still an awesome game ofcourse, and I'm a fan. But I would prefer this toned down for the next GTA game. Different character, story. More fun elements like SA.

Excessive violence, dumbo swearing appeals mostly to those with a more shallow mind (the majority of people on earth). Those who like boxing games, wrestling and watching movies on specific crap related sites, and other low-moral standards. You average consumer, burger eating, loud stereo-sytems in cars (playing house beats), complaining rejects, lacking an eye for art, and claiming that einstein was moron and the matrix movies are boring and stupid.. (not even caring how to, or inable to spell correctly on a random forum). Something like that.

It's not that I don't like games, or GTA. It's just that I hate anything related to dumbness, more specifically dumb people (and big companies catering to their needs for profit).

i can see what your saying.... but i think your going a little over the top... then again, it might just be me, but i was a little confused over what you were talking about

I am not stupid and i'm not trying to be mean but could you re-explain it in a simpler form? Because now i would actually like to know

From what i thought i got, all i have to say is, i think your going a little bit over the top in the sense that the game is getting disgusting, i think it was actually a good idea to push the game a little bit farther. I mean, yeah, it's disgusting in a sense that they a definitely catering to a "certain" group of people, but in their changes they in some ways made it fun, and they also made it more realistic in a sense, plus, if you don't want to do the sex thing anyway i'm pretty sure you can just avoid it.... it's not like they are going to make you get a prostitute, or at least, i don't think so, then again, i don't have the game till a couple more days (YEAH! smile.gif so i really don't know

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:15 AM

QUOTE (-=Gr@ph1x=- @ Apr 27 2008, 19:35)
Well, I am disappointed at Rockstar for adding this STRONG sexual stuff. I mean it's gta after all... But I think they went too far. I think it's unfair to the younger teenagers(Under 16) because their parents will be upset if they see this on the game. I am 15. So I am going to hide this sex in-car crap and not be playing that mini game. It's really disturbing.

Ps: Was the 1st Person drive view (steering wheel view) Removed?????
---------Hope Not---------

f*ck u kid, dont play the game. its not meant for you. stop f*cking it up for all of us f*cker. go play some motorcross for the next three years little f*ck

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:17 AM

QUOTE (Sircus @ Apr 28 2008, 02:15)
QUOTE (-=Gr@ph1x=- @ Apr 27 2008, 19:35)
Well, I am disappointed at Rockstar for adding this STRONG sexual stuff. I mean it's gta after all... But I think they went too far. I think it's unfair to the younger teenagers(Under 16) because their parents will be upset if they see this on the game. I am 15. So I am going to hide this sex in-car crap and not be playing that mini game. It's really disturbing.

Ps: Was the 1st Person drive view (steering wheel view) Removed?????
                              ---------Hope Not---------

f*ck u kid, dont play the game. its not meant for you. stop f*cking it up for all of us f*cker. go play some motorcross for the next three years little f*ck

okay... that's a little over the top... yeah the kid has to understand he is underage... but maybe calm down wink.gif

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:20 AM

lol Yeah jesus dont buy the game then...Kids shouldnt play anyway.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:21 AM

QUOTE (Ekoms @ Apr 28 2008, 02:13)
QUOTE (Uglulyx @ Apr 28 2008, 01:37)
QUOTE (ChaseMeFaster @ Apr 27 2008, 21:34)
I have the game, I was surprised at how graphic the sex is, it's no worse than hot coffee. You can get actual BJs/HJs. From women and men.

And Niko f*cks men the same way he f*cks women.  mercie_blink.gif

So Niko is gay? That is so gay!!! Lol

EEEWWWW THATS f*ckING DIRTY!!! cry.gif cry.gif nervous.gif lol.gif lol.gif ROFL!!!

It may seem wrong to most people, including to me, buy homosexuality is being accepted into current society, so I think it should be accepted in a game, especially in a GTA game.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:21 AM

QUOTE (DeAdLy_cOoKiE @ Apr 28 2008, 01:52)
I agree, this game has some disturbing scenes. Don't get me wrong, I'm used to shooting people and running people over, I can live with that, I can even live with some form of sexual contexted stuff or swearing. It's a game... But once it's overloaded with this stuff (specifically to cater towards a certain group; not too bright people) like i'm gonna bust a cap, I'm gona lay you down after each and every sequence it brings the game down. I'm not to bothered if random people say these lines, but it's Niko that is saying this (in general I'm not a fan of the main character saying lines at all, take for instance Prey or Duke Nukem. In my opinion it does the opposite of immersing).. The drunk driving on the other hand is a completely fun addition.

There's no charm in this (The character in SA had more charm than Niko, even visiting prostitutes showing a bouncing car was fun, and just enough.. Even the Hot Coffee issue was contextual fun.. Now it's somewhat distasteful), nor is it artful for a game. In other words, this is more of a 'commercial' game instead of an immersive piece of art. Getting a M-rating is one thing, but specifically design a game with M-rating in mind, meaning go as far as you want with M-rated stuff is a bit too much.

Still an awesome game ofcourse, and I'm a fan. But I would prefer this toned down for the next GTA game. Different character, story. More fun elements like SA.

Excessive violence, dumbo swearing appeals mostly to those with a more shallow mind (the majority of people on earth). Those who like boxing games, wrestling and watching movies on specific crap related sites, and other low-moral standards. You average consumer, burger eating, loud stereo-sytems in cars (playing house beats), complaining rejects, lacking an eye for art, and claiming that einstein was moron and the matrix movies are boring and stupid.. (not even caring how to, or inable to spell correctly on a random forum). Something like that.

It's not that I don't like games, or GTA. It's just that I hate anything related to dumbness, more specifically dumb people (and big companies catering to their needs for profit).

Wow, you are one pretentious twat. At what point in your life did you come to the epic realization that you are a superior being? I thought I was a narrow minded piece of sh*t, but you make me look like a damn saint. Unbelievable.

You've also got me a little bit confused, and so does society. You don't mind senseless murder in a game, but sex and swearing is taboo?

Grow a god damn pair and get off your high horse.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:26 AM

The sex and such is optional anyways.


You guys are f*cking stupid with this yelling and sh*t.

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Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:30 AM

Some of you are wondering why GTAIV's sex didn't cause an AO rating the same way Hot Coffee did.

Two reasons I think. First and foremost, the Hot Coffee sex scene was fully interactive. You actually controled the sex position the characters took. In IV, you can only choose (from what I'm hearing) between BJ, HJ or just straint sex. Other than that, there's no interaction. The other reason is the nudity. While CJ had his clothes on (which was kinda wierd), the girl he was banging was completely naked. In IV, you can only see the chick bounce up and down in Niko's lap. Not much else. Even in the strip clubs, all of the girls wear tops. No nudity = No AO rating.

Ofcourse I'm just guessing, but those seem to be the most logical reasons to me.




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