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Posted 22 February 2008 - 06:50 PM

I mean, we all know many things.
  • Darkel was a terrorist hobo with homicidal tendencies.
  • He gave you Rampage-style missions.
  • In one of the missions you had to lure kids near an ice cream van (In other versions, a school bus) and blow it up.
  • Another mission had Claude bombing the Liberty City stadium with a Dodo because Darkel's favorite football team has lost a game.
  • Yet another of his missions was destroying the Love Building with a Dodo attack, killing Donald Love in the process.

Seriously, is any of this sh*t based on something else that the ramblings of a stoned man?
I cannot find any real sources. A guy saying he played the beta is not a source.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:31 PM

Darkel is on the official GTA III Website.

Find darkels hiding place on the map 'Harwood Tunnel'

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:45 PM

There are 3 bums in the tunnels rumoured to be Darkels assistants

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 08:59 PM

No, I know he's on the official site and all. But for all we know, he's a congressman forced to grow a beard and live like he's homeless for a while.
I do not care about the rumours.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 09:12 PM

Darkel is in GTA3 files too. We can recreate this missions, but it will take a while.

On Liberty Trees was a note about Darkel and more important things. But nice to see something about GTA3 here;).

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 09:41 PM

Liberty tree?
This link?
http://www.rockstarg...001/story1.html

Nothing about darkel there.
I know he's in the files - otherwise we would not even know his name.

How do we know what missions he had? That's my point, how do we know? What is the source? How reliable is it?

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 10:06 PM

"I scream, you scream" was definitely originally one of Darkel's missions, except it involved random peds instead of gangs. Many previews confirm that one.

He was a street urchin who vowed to bring down the city's economy though, which is where the Love Media terrorist attack theory stemmed from. Makes sense to me personally, but we'll never know whether it's true or not. But previews do confirm he wanted to bring down the economy and had rampage style missions.

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 10:15 PM

There's a pretty decent write on the Wikipedia website up of ALL of the characters within the GTA universe, including the actors who voiced them. Seemed accurate during my first run through of it.

Here, under Removed Characters:

http://en.wikipedia....oved_characters

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 10:33 PM

Goddamn it guys! I know who Darkel is! I could write a damn 30-page treatise about him! I just need to know how much of it is true! Could someone just point me to a preview that said, in plain words, "Darkel is a homicidal hobo"?
And I know what Wiki is!

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 11:14 PM

QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Feb 22 2008, 21:41)
Liberty tree?
This link?
http://www.rockstarg...001/story1.html

Nothing about darkel there.
I know he's in the files - otherwise we would not even know his name.

How do we know what missions he had? That's my point, how do we know? What is the source? How reliable is it?

You have right. Then I founded this informations on other site. But I heared about Darkel same informations.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 12:22 AM

To be true it has to be from a reliable source.
Please post something.


Edit:

YAYYY!!!

IGN-Overview
IGN-The Living City
IGN-How Smart is the AI?

Whee! Beta Catalina! Never seen that pic!
Or is it beta claude+normal claude?
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Found it.


Lastly, there is a dark, brooding old man who hides, or sort of dwells, in the shadows of the game, and his name is Darkel. Darkel is more or less like the city�s muse, or prophet, and he says weird things, and asks you to do weird things, too. From Darkel, you can find jobs, too. In one situation, Darkel asks you to perform a hideous task that can only be found in the darkest of comic books (I�m thinking of Spawn at the moment). In this one case, Darkel sets you out to steal an ice cream truck and to acquire some dynamite. Your job is to attract as many people to the truck as possible and to set off the bomb to kill as many of them as you can! Dark! Evil! Gruesome! But hey? When was the last time you did that in a game?!


Nothing about kids. Haha.
Nothing about Dodos either.


BTW...


But on the way to prison you have the good fortune of being placed in the same van as an explosives expert who has no intention of being put away. The two of you then blast your way out, and your characters is left free with the whole of Liberty City before him, a serious score to settle and no conscience to hold him back.

So there was no OJG in the Beta?



Also, was there supposed to be an army heli in the Beta? Gouranga says so...

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 01:44 AM

QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Feb 23 2008, 00:22)
Whee! Beta Catalina! Never seen that pic!
Or is it beta claude+normal claude?
user posted image

It's beta claude and beta claude:P

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 02:31 AM

Huh, I actually thought the person on the left was either Reni or Asuka tounge2.gif

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 03:11 AM

Why don't you contact the guy that did the voice and ask what Darkels missions were?

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 04:23 AM

Seriously man? Why would he ever answer?
And how will I find his email?

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:26 AM

I don't know, but its the only way you would ever find out more about Darkel.

Heres he is IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278446/

Google around and maybe you'll find his email or something.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:04 PM

The Dodo rumors might come from the fact that the Dodo was modified after the 11S. It was surely modified because videos on Youtube or similar of guys driving a Dodo and crashing it on New York-like buildings would create a controversia like the Haitian one. But some people may think it was modified because you had to do a 11S-like mission in the original rendition of the game.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:09 PM

But dodo is still can fly:P.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:16 PM

Yes - and why did they have to change the external appearance? I mean, to make it fly worse you just have to change a like in handling.cfg.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:57 PM

QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Feb 23 2008, 18:16)
Yes - and why did they have to change the external appearance? I mean, to make it fly worse you just have to change a like in handling.cfg.

to make it look logical and realistic.besides,I find the III dodo easier to fly than the SA dodo.

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 06:58 PM

QUOTE (Danny the III fan @ Feb 23 2008, 18:57)
QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Feb 23 2008, 18:16)
Yes - and why did they have to change the external appearance? I mean, to make it fly worse you just have to change a like in handling.cfg.

to make it look logical and realistic.besides,I find the III dodo easier to fly than the SA dodo.

That's if you started with III or with a gamepad.
Really, SA is much easier to play for most.

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 06:17 PM

I would've absolutely loved to play Darkel's missions in GTA3, It's a shame Rockstar re-done the game before release.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:12 AM

I think some BM's posts had a link..
I don't know. Would be cool.
Why is there a giant community in which everyone is too lazy to do this?

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Feb 23 2008, 18:58)
QUOTE (Danny the III fan @ Feb 23 2008, 18:57)
QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Feb 23 2008, 18:16)
Yes - and why did they have to change the external appearance? I mean, to make it fly worse you just have to change a like in handling.cfg.

to make it look logical and realistic.besides,I find the III dodo easier to fly than the SA dodo.

That's if you started with III or with a gamepad.
Really, SA is much easier to play for most.

Meh,I use a keyboard,but I rock at it with the gamepad too. learn't how to fly it October 25th 2001,on my PS2,three days after its release,and got 30 seconds tops,then trained for about two days,and now I can get indefinite time,until I get bored.

As for SA...I suck at the SA planes for some unknown reason.

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 09:59 PM

I suck at small SA planes, but I'm good at large ones and at the VC Skimmer.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 05:22 PM

QUOTE (OnePiece @ Feb 23 2008, 06:26)
I don't know, but its the only way you would ever find out more about Darkel.

Heres he is IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278446/

Google around and maybe you'll find his email or something.

the guy who done the voice of darkel is Bill Fiore you may be able to contact him
via imdb if you sign up or get a free trial

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (junior731657 @ Mar 15 2008, 17:22)
QUOTE (OnePiece @ Feb 23 2008, 06:26)
I don't know, but its the only way you would ever find out more about Darkel.

Heres he is IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278446/

Google around and maybe you'll find his email or something.

the guy who done the voice of darkel is Bill Fiore you may be able to contact him
via imdb if you sign up or get a free trial

Okay, I did say I can write a 10-page-long treatise, right?
I know it's bill fiore.
I just don't care.
So what?
It's not like he'll tell anything.
And anyway it'll be pointless.

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Posted 15 March 2008 - 10:16 PM

QUOTE (QwertyAAA @ Mar 15 2008, 17:50)
QUOTE (junior731657 @ Mar 15 2008, 17:22)
QUOTE (OnePiece @ Feb 23 2008, 06:26)
I don't know, but its the only way you would ever find out more about Darkel.

Heres he is IMDB.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0278446/

Google around and maybe you'll find his email or something.

the guy who done the voice of darkel is Bill Fiore you may be able to contact him
via imdb if you sign up or get a free trial

Okay, I did say I can write a 10-page-long treatise, right?
I know it's bill fiore.
I just don't care.
So what?
It's not like he'll tell anything.
And anyway it'll be pointless.

What's your F*cking problem? The guy was trying to help you!

Jordan got an exclusive interview with Sam houser a year ago. He knows the truth, but Sam told him not to say anything.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 01:15 AM

monocle.gif Ahh, you should just email him. Its better to try then not of tried.

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Posted 16 March 2008 - 03:40 AM

QUOTE (~PhusioN~ @ Mar 16 2008, 01:15)
monocle.gif Ahh, you should just email him. Its better to try then not of tried.

OK, how about that?
If he had a known e-mail, he'd be getting a hundred emails a day about this.
So why would I be the one to find out?
And anyway, I did google for his email. A little.
Nothing.




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