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Posted 03 October 2009 - 09:06 PM Edited by Jack Reacher, 04 October 2009 - 08:29 AM.

Yeah, not worth the trouble. My main goal is to get these GFs to 45% and game percentage 13.37%. I might try get some more rare vehicles, then i wanna play story on this master save file. Btw, you said before you gota Barracks to LS, did you have any luck storing it anywhere? i couldnt seem to fit it anywhere, maybe impounding it mgiht work but i remember something about having to garrage anemergency vehicle first before you can do that

Anyway these GFs are a real pain now. I want to date each one once as they are at 5% or lower and then collect the oyster all in one go. I go to Katie, she is there. I date her, fail, eat some food and go to Michelle. I wait till morning, she isnt there. I drive around for age,s she still isnt there. So i have reloaded, saved a few times to pass some days, go to katie and what do you know now she isnt there. Driving me insane

Update: just a quick update, got the bandito by grey hell, seems i was driving off the wrong part of the map. Anyway while storing it, i had no stars and a cop car started chasing a guy in a perenial. they killed him, and only one got in the cop car. the other was too retarded and got into the perennial instead. They rammed around and eventually blew up. Has anyone seen a cop drive around in a different vehicle like this before?

Update: So i got a police chopper and a Crop Duster in the LS impound now. only problem is the planes wing is inside the chopper. However i managed to tow it away from it without problems. I didnt really get enough speed when trying to leave though, and for some reason the plane blew up when i tried reversing. So i think it is possible to have a plane and a chopper in the LS impound, maybe possible for 2 planes or a plane and 2 choppers. Il do some more experimenting, maybe get a Skimmer.Also i found the Beagle in For Carson. My god, wtf... it was half on the road and half on the footpath, it wasnt inside anything so it didnt blow up or anything when i got near it. It looks very awkward to take off, is there any chance of getting a tow truck to LV and towing it to a getter runway?

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 05:02 PM Edited by rubregg, 04 October 2009 - 05:10 PM.

QUOTE (Jack Reacher @ Oct 3 2009, 10:13)
I remember asking a while ago if you were to go into debt, would the casino gangsters chase you?
I just did some testing on this one. Bottom line: no, not before LV is officially unlocked.

I did find a way to trigger the threatening phone calls, but the Mafia hitmen will only spawn if your wanted level is below 2. At least if I read the script right; in-game I didn't get the hitmen with a wanted level of 2 (in unlocked LV). The following assumes your debt is high enough to trigger the hitmen routine.

For the phone calls:
The problem is, you don't get the phone calls as long as your wanted level is 4, the phone will only ring if your wanted level is 0. Obviously you can't use a Pay'n'Spray, because you're in debt. The only way I found to get a brief period with wanted level 0 in locked-off LV is: go into Caligula's or The Craw Bar (or any other interior that has its coords over LS outside the locked-off zone) and wait until your wanted level drops to 0 by itself (the Sex Shop works too, but is not recommended due to cops spawning inside). Exit interior. Hope that the cellphone script kicks in, in that very brief period before the game sets your wanted level back to 4. You need a bit of luck with this but it is technically possible. If your phone didn't ring, you'll have to enter the interior again and start over.
Bottom line to this one: Possible but not worth the hassle.

It may just be possible to trigger the hitmen with the same trick, but my guess is that you'll need even more luck (a lot more) for this one than for the phone calls.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (Jack Reacher @ Oct 1 2009, 18:33)
I dont think it adds another 4. I had 2 stars in LS, i went to SF and got 4 stars and i only had another 2 wanted things added. Anyway at least the no Pay N Spray challenge is still possible, maybe no cop bribe sttat as well

I reloaded a save before i dated Katie, she is still on 15%. I dated her, got no jelousy date and she was on 10% so i reloaded
So i tried again, Barbarra popped up. I went into the marker before she got near me and what do you know, she popped off the stat screen again. so im loading my latest save. This one has Katie off the stats, she isnt dumped and i havent gotten the last Oyster. Do you think if i try to date her again she will go back on the stat screen at 5%?


OK, I double checked and you only seem to get one more star when it bleeds off to three and goes back up, I thought I'd seen it add 4 sometimes, I must have been hallucinating or conflating it with some other cause.

However, note that (successfully) completing missions normally clears your wanted level (but that doesn't count as an evasion), therefore in 4-star territory it will apply another 4 stars (though some missions don't if you have already completed them, they all will the first time though). This includes the stadium events, the courier missions, NRG challenge, and Chiliad. Hence it is not possible to keep attained/evaded stars equal in a master save.

No sprays is easy, I've done that several times (Taxi is the only hard part about that, just take it easy, there's plenty of time, ignore the tip, drive carefully, assume everyone is out to get you and be ready to swerve/brake accordingly, especially at intersections). As for bribes, Vigilante is the only tricky one, you don't need bribes for anything else. I did a quick test of Vigilante with no bribes (in a 100% complete game so I already had 150 armor), it's possible, but haven't yet tried it in a master save yet.

Regarding legitimate kills, note that you can get credited with a kill even if you had nothing to do with the incident. For example, if a car explodes and kills someone you usually get a legitimate kill for that, though not always. For example, I was in LV, north of the police station, on the road where the police cars spawn in mid-air and one flipped over as it spawned and exploded and I got 2 kills for that, even though I was nowhere near it and didn't shoot or touch it in any way. This has happened in other places too.

Thus, during Vigilante, even if the proofed ranger and homies techinque worked, you'd probably end up with legitimate kills anyway. The obvious technique of shooting the cars until they smoke black then running the criminals over is unlikely to be reliable, a random car could crash into the smoking car causing it to catch fire (the danger of this obviously increases as you get up to 3 and 4 stars with cops flying everywhere, assuming you are aiming for no bribes) with a good chance that someone will be killed by the explosion. Since you shot the car to begin with, you'd almost certainly be credited with the kill(s).

So while it may be technically possible to do Vigilante without any legitimate kills, I don't think it's going to be feasible. At least, it would be largely dependent on luck, rather than skill. In any case, I can still see no way to raise respect without racking up legitimate kills? All the rest is feasible with no legitimate kills though as long as you are careful to avoid any cars exploding, so if someone can figure out a technique to do Vigilante reliably without causing any explosions and max respect without shooting anyone, it may be possible, but that seems to be a tall order.

QUOTE (Jack Reacher @ Oct 3 2009, 21:06)

Update: just a quick update, got the bandito by grey hell, seems i was driving off the wrong part of the map. Anyway while storing it, i had no stars and a cop car started chasing a guy in a perenial. they killed him, and only one got in the cop car. the other was too retarded and got into the perennial instead. They rammed around and eventually blew up. Has anyone seen a cop drive around in a different vehicle like this before?


Yes, I've seen the same sort of thing happen. Some guy bumped into a cop car and the cop chased him down the road, trapped his car against a wall, then the cop (there was only one) got out and blew the guy away, Then instead of getting back into the cop car he got into the victim's car and drove off in it. The odd thing is he didn't act like a cop anymore, I followed him and shot his car and I didn't get a wanted level, he just ignored me and carried on driving.

Another time, two cops jumped out of their car and wasted someone, then they both tried to get back in their car at the same time, but for some reason they both tried to get into the driver's side. So one of them got in first, then the other one jacked him and drove off, with the first cop running down the road after him. Funny stuff.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 07:14 PM

May I point towards the Minimal Kill Challenge for loads of tips on how to avoid kills. Vigilante with 0 kills is technically possible, but the record (as of April 2009) is 72 kills.

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 07:34 PM

It looks like too much of a hassle to get 0 legit kilsl now. You could do Vigilante no bribes easily in the proofed Ranger though right? If not you could go to your safe house and remove the level by removing your top and putting it back on, as long as you have enough time ( by level 5 i had 30 mins)

Anyway i couldnt tow the cropduster out, LS is definatly too small. It might be possible to fly it out but i dont have the skill or patiance. Sf however is much bigger, im thinking of getting a Beagle in there. So this could be like the Rustler challenge, the Beagle spawns in a retarded spot in Fort Carson. im thinking of undrowning a tow truck, bringing it to LV and towing the Beagle to a better runway in the desert, then flying it from there. If anyone has any better ideas that would be great as it looks like a lot of time to put in for just 1 attempt. Also for choppers, im going to follow the Rustler plan and tow a Raindance or Leviathan from the Sf airport to the Doherty garrage and poush it with the proofed monster to unlock it, then fly it to the broadway and impound it so i have 3 choppers in there

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Posted 04 October 2009 - 08:14 PM

You can trigger the Mafia call and hitmen from the Jetmax dock. Still, it's hardly worth the effort.

Jack, have you ever tried to drive a tow truck on the train tracks? You might want to practice on a save with SF unlocked before you start making too many plans for towing the locked vehicles out of the SF airport with a 4 star wanted level.

I'm not so sure the Ranger will be all that good of a vigilante vehicle. It is quite tall and tends to shoot over the tops of the cars. I'd take my chances with the cop bike and put up with the wanted level. After all, it can't get above 4 stars, and that's pretty normal for a master save exploit anyway.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 12:40 AM

Yeah now that i think of it the tow truck is ridiculously slow on train tracks. But as long as no cops follow me there, does it matter? All of my tests will be done without stars, im not that far in the story but i do have some random AR disk with like 3 GTA SA cheats, one is no cop AI.

Is there any spot in LV where you can beach a tow truck? it might be able to get the Beagle into a better position for take off. Anyway before i do that il go for the easier chopper, i recall you mentioning a chopper spawned in LV airport but shared a spawn with a dodo. So i should blow up the dodo untill the chopper spawns? If so which partiicular one is it. As for the News chopper i cant seem to jack it on the aircraft carrier in SF. I stand on the ledge, it flies low but if i move it flies up into the sky again, the police maverik however always flies on my level. Any other good spots for taknig a News Chopper?

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 01:37 AM

My strategy for getting the Leviathan to spawn at the LV airport is to drive to the far north of the runway and then backtrack south along the western fence. When I collected my News Chopper I coaxed one into sinking near the Panopticon undrowning zone. I was able to beach a Tow Truck in LV near the Fort Carson safe house between the dock and the bridge by reversing up the bank. My preferred beaching spots in LV are on either side of the channel from the Ranch House, but those spots require vehicles that can climb fairly well.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 01:54 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 05 October 2009 - 02:56 AM.

Ok thanks for that. if i have trouble, il try driving off the map like i do in LS, works all the time for me. I just tried getting into the Beagle and driving out, blew up instantly. However that was the same story with the cropduster in the LS garrage, it was inside the chopper and blew up when i got inside. However when i towed the cropduster it got out easy, maybe its the same with the Beagle.

Anyway before i try this im confused about manually impounding vehicles, sorry for all the questions but this will save me some time if i can get it sorted out before i try. I go to the LS and SF impounds but the doors wont open, they only seem to open from the inside. How am i meant to drive a plane into it then? And even if i can, how do you store it, do you simply park it anywhere or does it have to be in the exact spot that you see it spawn in?

Finally, can i impound a Barracks? I got one to LS but it wouldnt fit in a garrage, and i heard there has been some difficulty impounding emergency vehicles.

Update: If your still interested in Katies situation, i managed to get 1 date lowering her to 5%, now she hasnt been home for ages. I went to LV, crashed the shamal, went to the west fence and saw the Leviathan instantly, guess i got lucky.I managed to impound it easy, looks cool sitting next to my Police maverik. Havent tried towing it im pretty sure it will get out though. Now i gotta choose, Police news chopper or the Raindance. il try Cargobob even though Phreak said it doesnt work, that was for PC so you never know might on the PS2 version...

Update: On a save on SF with the airport locked, i got the raindance to the SF garrage in doherty using a tow truck. I just drove on the grass next to the rail tracks. When putting it in the garrage, i drove straight towards the garrage and unhooked the raindance and turned so it slit halfway in. Then i just rammed it over and over into a diagonal untill the door closed. Getting it out was a miracle. I decided to get in and what do you know, the blades started spinning and they didnt come into contact with anything. At full speed i started rotating it left and right and it somehow backed out of the garrage with apprently no damage done, i was able to impound it in the LS garrage then. Now to do it in 4 star conditions, cant be too hard with a proofed mosnter right?

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 03:07 AM Edited by OrionSR, 05 October 2009 - 03:13 AM.

I get the impression that aircraft tend to instantly explode upon impact and this is somehow different than taking damage, burning, and then exploding. I probably won't be much help with the Beagle. I've hated that spawn ever since it blew me up as I drove by during level 11 of paramedic. If I could have removed it from the chain game saves I would have.

I'm not sure how you will open the doors of the impound lot with an aircraft. Phreak mentioned something about getting the doors to open once and then they tend to open for anything, but I'm not really sure. They open from the outside if you have a police vehicle. I suspect the Barracks will open the door. To be honest, I spent many hours trying to figure out how the impound garages worked until I was fairly sick of them, so I didn't experiment much with any practical use.

To manually impound a vehicle, park it anywhere within the garage zone. When the invisible door closes it will get stored and it will respawn in the middle of the zone. It is pretty easy to tell where the impound zone is at the LVPD, but it can be difficult to tell the boundaries on the other impound zones. I placed custom objects in the corners or altered the camera angle to help me out, but can't think of a practical method to do the same thing on PS2 - well, not without cheat device codes anyway.

The difficulty with impounding emergency vehicles is often related to how they are spawned, not the vehicle itself. Vehicles that are created by the engine are similar to mission vehicles that still have their references in memory. That's why collectors of proof vehicles often need to go through elaborate methods to fail, die, or blow up the vehicle before it can be stored. A vehicle spawned by a car generator shouldn't have any problem getting impounded.

There is a chance that the impound zones will function slightly differently on PS2. There are very slight differences in how PS2 and PC rounds off floating point variables, and that might be enough to make the difference.

Congrats on the Raindance. If you manage to collect it then that might be a first for a master save. That should set you up nicely for collecting the elusive Rustler.

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 03:20 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 05 October 2009 - 05:46 AM.

I think i will have more luck with the Raindance, the strangest thing is it is able to spin its rotors at full speed int he garrage in Doherty and even in the impound lot, i was able to actualyl fly around a bit before getting blown up by cops. However the whole thing will be very complicated as i want to store my Mosnter in the garrage as well. After pushing it in i will have to park the Monster outside, get the chopper out somehow, put the monster back in then take off again, try get some bribes before getting shot down by the Hydra ( this probably will happen i suck at dodging Hydras) or il probably get busted while vehical hopping, il just spam my 20 tear gas nades to be sure. Maybe il forget the Monster and steal it again off a GF once they are on 45% and just save once it is in the Dohrty garrage. That is, even if i can get it to the garrage.

im interested in this idea Phreak has to open garrage doors, it will be very hard storing a crop duster in the SF impound if i cant even get the door open, let alone the Beagle as my final challenge. Did you ever try towing the Beagle?

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Ok this is good news and friggen bad news ( for me). It couldnt have gone any smoother, got to the garrage but i kinda stuffed it up. The chopper didnt unhook as i went to the garrage and i was in an awkward position. I backed up and it swerved to the right, somehow went fully into the garrage at a perfect angle and went right next to the bullet proof mosnter, the door closed, i got the fire truck and went for the maverik

The bad news, i went to pick up a cop bribe to lower it to 3. I got worried about a hydra still coming so i went to get out and re enter. As i re entered a Ranger smashed into the maverik putting it on its side, i was still insdie, mashing triangle to get out and it blew up killing me. I now ihave 1 wasted stat. So i could carry on but man im pissed about this...

Update: Well being the perfectionist i am i went and did it again. About 10 times actually. i finally did it, but i had to use the Monster to push it this time, i have lost it. The Raindance is in the SF garrage atm, il try impound it soon. I can always get the Monster again, Katie is still on 5%, il get it off her again, and then get Michelle to 0 and hopefully barbara too. If she isnt home then il just grab the Oyster, its Michelle that i want on 45% anyway

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:24 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 05 October 2009 - 07:27 AM.

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Managed to impound it, im thinking of ditching the Leviathan though. A news chopper is more rare as it takes more skill to jack, all you gotta do for the Leviathan is go to LV airport. However its basically the same as the police Maverick, il just keep it as it is. Can you link me to the topic where Phreak had an idea of getting the door to open for all vehicles?

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Posted 05 October 2009 - 11:19 AM

The door will open from the inside for any vehicle.
I once impounded a Rustler in the SF impound (by using the driving school) and started experimenting with taking off from the yard outside.
I was failing miserably so to repair damage I noticed that the door would still open for the Rustler from the outside, so I simply taxied the Rustler back into the Impound and let the garage repair it.

My theory is that once you've opened the door from the inside with a specific vehicle, that vehicle will also open the door from the outside (not thoroughly tested).

You can get the Rustler out and fly btw. you just need to push it through the guard post.
The SF Impound is so wide that most airplanes can be taxied out without damage, the Beagle is still too big though.

For getting aircraft in you still need a police vehicle to open the door, so go in on foot, jack a police car get back out and push the aircraft in using the police car.

For the ft. Carson Beagle you'll need a Towtruck. Towtruck's naturally spawn in the area.
You'll also need a Beagle that hasn't spawned too badly, you can get a new spawn by entering and exiting the 24/7 liquor store (which btw. isn't open 24/7)
In 4* conditions you can enter the PnS, once you exit you'll have the cops confused for ~3s. just enough to hook up the Beagle.
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Posted 05 October 2009 - 07:13 PM

Thanks for that info, i should be able to get a cropduster in the Sf impound now. However even if i can take off in the Beagle, your saying it wont fit in the SF impound? I dont think il try if i cant store it anywhere. Maybe il go for the Rustler as my final goal

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 01:10 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 09 October 2009 - 06:58 AM.

Hey about rare cars, is the uranus considered Rare on a Master Save? By that i mean does it spawn anywhere on the streets in LS or in a parked location in LS. I checked an FAQ and it said its only at Wang Autos after its completed, but that FAQ has been wrong before. Im asking because i just found one in Vigilante and im wondering if its worth storing, i have some space atm.

Also a bit of a retarded question, can you tow boats on land? You can tow planes and helicopters, i was thinking about storing a speeder in my Beach garrage, i think it might fit but pushing it to the beach will get annoying. It will provide another way to get to restricted terrority, and i want a change from getting cars and air vehicles.

Update: About the katie situation. i decided to level Respect and some weapon skills by using your strategy at the navel base in SF

After killing about 100 cops, it said Katie + in the progress bar, and it was definatly an incrase in green. wtf? there was no phone call or anything either, and she still isnt in my stats. Should i assume she is now above 5% and i should date her twice to get to 0%? anyway if i can find out why she went + maybe we can get her at 100% as well


Update: ok so after a few ingame days later of getting weapons for hitman i tried again. i went to the docks and started killing cops again. After about 100 later, katie goes + just like before. I ignore it and eventually Michelle also goes +. Now note that before this progress she was 1% on my stats, now she is off my stats. it also looked like the bar had increased a bit over 1%. Whats stranger is that on my way back to SF after i saved on a different file, while i was in a boat Katie got a + again, usually it goes - when you are in a vehicle

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 07:35 PM

Interesting. I have vague memories of unexplained progress, but it was a very long time ago. Chances are it was something that happened on the original version for PS2. I haven't noticed anything similar on PC.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 09:45 PM Edited by Jack Reacher, 10 October 2009 - 06:55 AM.

this might be in the wrong topic but it happened while trying to date Michelle for this topic, idk where to put it

Ok so i dated Michelle to get her to 0%, i tried to fail the date fast but as i entered the red sphere again a cop knocked me off the bike. It was perfect timing i guess ( accidental) because the date cutscene started and i got busted at the same time. When i spawned at barbaras it was still in cutscene mode, i couldnt see the HUD or even pause the game. i died, spawned in LS, still in this mode. Couldnt load my file so i had to turn my PS3 off, anyone else experienced this?

Update: Alright i got sick of waiting for Katie, she is like NEVER home. I keep geting Katie + though so maybe if this stupi dglitch keeps happening she might get 100% anyway
Anywho, i dated michelle finally, got her to 0% and went to Barbara. What do you know she isnt friggen hom eeither after waiting at all usual times. So i get the Oyster and they still arent on my stat pages. So im thinknig you know what screw all of this, and i saved. I decided to date Michelle and she asked me to go for a drive ( a speed date not She Drives).. What do you know it said Michelle + and a huge green bar, she is on my stats and it says 40%. So i obviously lost 5%, all this time it has been saying + when really the stats have been going down. So yeah theres no way to get the others to 100%, as of yet anyway.


Update: Sweet Katie is also on 45% for some crazy unknown reason. Barbara at 45%. The annoying thing is none of the firls are on my stats, so i gotta date them and fail them ( except for Michelle) so that they appear but then they are 40% . Doesnt matter i guess for Katie as i need the Monster again, all GFs at 45%. If you want i can confirm michelle getting to 100% as well, i want a different outfit anyway. Well that clears everything up, its confirmed for PS2 FINALLY

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Jack Reacher @ Oct 9 2009, 21:45)
Sweet Katie is also on 45% for some crazy unknown reason. Barbara at 45%. The annoying thing is none of the firls are on my stats, so i gotta date them and fail them ( except for Michelle) so that they appear but then they are 40% .

I have got the same effect. On PC, ver. 1.0
After geting the last oyster all 3 girlfriends remain at 0 % progress, but after failed date she will jump to 40%
Maybe if I wait till they phone CJ, I end up with 43% progress...

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Posted 01 December 2009 - 09:36 PM

yes that worked for me, i waited for Barbara and she dropped to 43%

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Jack Reacher @ Dec 1 2009, 21:36)
yes that worked for me, i waited for Barbara and she dropped to 43%

Did you managed to get "she drivers" date from Michelle? I seem to have problem with that.
If so, what car were you usung then? Where you in a car or on foot?

I crossed the threshold for it, as there were same driving and dancing dates started. And sometimes I am geting no dates's obiective stated before a date fails, I think that is the case when I should be geting special date...

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 04:27 PM

For the She Drives Dates you must meet her with a car and she has to get into the car quickly or the date will fail due to a wanted level. On PC I was able to get the She Drives dates started quickly enough by parking with the passenger door fairly close to door to her house, but Jack seemed to find it necessary to bash off the passenger door when playing on PS2.

I would suggest a Bullet or other nice car when meeting Michelle for a She Drives date, and I suspect the car needs to be in fairly good condition. Fortunately there's a Pay'N'Spray right there. I got the impression that crappy or damaged cars were less likely to trigger She Drives dates, but couldn't find anything in the scripts to confirm my suspicions; perhaps it was just a coincidence.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 05:18 PM

Thanks. Most of my tries was with Bullet. I dont see how one can get passenger door closer to her home., then I did
I just noticed that if I drive out of the red marker right away (as if trying to initiate jealousy date), even after geting failed date message, CJ and Michelle sometimes will change places and I get she drives date. But when it ends, it is still failed date in statistics. "you dont know how to treat a lady", no coffe, etc. The strange thing, I neither lose any progres with her nor gain anythig. After a date her progress is shown as 45%
I'll try the door bashing trick.

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Posted 02 December 2009 - 10:00 PM Edited by Jack Reacher, 02 December 2009 - 10:03 PM.

I managed to get them to work with the help of Orion, and got 100% progress

Here is the problem, she isnt getting into the car fast enough. What i do is i land the Shamal from LS on top of the parking lot a bit north of her house, its an easy landing and no cops. There will usually be a car there, now your going to want to chop off the passenger door with a melee weapon

Once you do that, park as close as you can to her door with the passenger door closest to her, she will get in fast and she should trigger the special date before she gets bored

EDIT: oops didnt even see Orions post, but about car condition i did it with most of the random cars in that car park and even a tow truck

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 03:01 PM Edited by pomor, 04 December 2009 - 03:57 PM.

Removing the doors dont work for me.
Please, would you have a look at that short video and tell me what I am doing wrong

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 06:33 PM

I'm not sure what the problem might be. It looks like you are doing everything right. Perhaps that wasn't a She Drives date. All I can suggest would be to try moving out of the sphere so the date doesn't end right away. Then at least you'd know what kind of date was triggered. Or, perhaps try changing some game settings a bit to alter the timing. My game lags quite a bit so maybe enabling the frame limiter or increasing various video settings might slow things down a bit and provide time for Michelle to get in the car before the failure kicks in.

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Posted 04 December 2009 - 07:05 PM Edited by pomor, 05 December 2009 - 11:13 AM.

It is she-drives date, I can tell, as there was no objective showed (like it does when food or dancing date is about to fail). If I move out of sphere, I get cinematic date with Michelle, but at the end it is failed date anyway.

Do you ply with frame limiter on or off? I allmost always keep it on.
Unforunately my settings are maxed already. I may experiment with some CPU grabber to see if it is the question of a game running too fast, but I'm not sure if I want to keep stats obtained in such a way, by the use of external program... Is it any diferent then editing save outright? On the other hand, it would be like instaling a game on slower PC. sarcasm.gif

EDIT: I have throttled CPU so much the game has been almost a slideshow and still no luck.

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#267

Posted 04 December 2009 - 11:21 PM

I play on PS2 and do it exactly like you do, no idea why it isnt working. It did look like you didnt move though, just move anyway asap like Orion said. When i would do it wrong i would at least get some dialogue that she wanted to drive, sometimes she would drive and i would fail if i didnt get her in fast enough so i dont think that was a she drives date.

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 04:05 AM

I usually play with the frame limiter off, but I'm only getting about 35 FPS. Maybe I had it backwards and a faster frame rate might help.

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Posted 05 December 2009 - 01:23 PM Edited by pomor, 09 December 2009 - 09:36 AM.

Slowing down my PC dont do squat. After turning frame limiter off (I get about 85 FPS and it makes driving very unresponsive)CJ usually get out his line "Of course you can drive, Michelle" and then, the date fails. suicidal.gif

But, experimenting with no 4 star save, the one with SF unlocked already, I discovered that one can indeed initiate she-drive date in Enforcer. Even if Michelle gets in this car through rear door! (like patients in Ambulane mission). Repeating such a thing in 4 star environment proved to be not so easy, and I dont have time today to play with it any futher.
But I would prefer such a method over tinkering with frames per second.


EDIT: Enforcer method does not work too. One cannot drive closer to her doors, any closer and she will not have room to get out of home. I cannot believe this sh*t

EDIT 2: And THAT what happens if I try to move out of home sphere. I am giving up on that one, I have run out of ideas.

EDIT3: Resolved. All of my tries have been conducted from the same save file. Save file which has to be somehow out of order.
After completing 50 fares in taxi mission and saving the game, I have tried "she-drives" one last time, and from that point it works every time I try. But if I load that previous save it still do not work from that point.
Not sure what the problem has been. Maybe she-drives date require completed taxi missions, but that sound pretty stupid. Or maybe completing a side mission has changed some global variable or whatever.

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Posted 26 December 2009 - 07:29 PM

I finished up the second 13.37% run just before Christmas break started for the kiddies.

Been working on acquiring those fine rides the GFs have from Proofed Cars from Jealous Girlfriends by OrionSR topic before I finish up the first mission getting to CJ's place and doing the Big Smoke Mission. (The first three GF rides, anyway)

The run was great and this guide is quite useful. icon14.gif

Thanks again rubregg! cookie.gif




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