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Posted 16 October 2008 - 06:54 PM

Don't worry about it. You don't have to do NRG-500 IMMEDIATELY after BMX, just be sure to do BMX *BEFORE * NRG-500, no matter how much you do in between. cool.gif
So yeah, mark the save with "BMX" after taking care of LS and then mark it with "NRG" to indicate SF-done anytime afterwards. wink.gif

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Posted 30 October 2008 - 07:19 PM

QUOTE (rubregg @ Jun 7 2007, 20:07)
into LV - The NRG Jump
a non-flying entry into LV, no bike skill
required

No bike skill requied, indeed... suicidal.gif
Argh!
I tried to do it like 50 times now , and I'm just ready to chew my keybord wink.gif

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 03:58 AM

First time I've actually paid attention to this guide. Good job on the guide rubregg.

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Posted 02 November 2008 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (rubregg @ Oct 14 2008, 21:13)
Thanks for the info, Dark_side646. I usually do BMX before NRG and never really got into the details too much. ...so what happens if you do BMX first and NRG next, but fail on NRG? I think you'll get mission attempts added in this case, but I am not 100% sure.

When you do BMX mission, you can fail NRG as many times as you like, before you finally complete it. It will not give you any mission attepmts in your stats anyway.

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Posted 05 January 2009 - 12:42 AM

i have a better idea works when u dont have a wanted level. circle right circle right left square triangle up

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 01:59 PM

@pomor
Thanks for the info on the BMX / NRG mission counter. ...so have you made the NRG jump into LV yet? It does indeed take a bit of practice to hit the right spot... It's probably easier with good bike skill, but it can be done with 0 skill, as shown in the video.

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Thanks a lot, appreciated. biggrin.gif

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You did get the idea that this topic is about doing it without cheats, did you. sarcasm.gif

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (rubregg @ Jun 7 2007, 20:10)


As soon as you enter an aircraft - or locked-off territory while flying an aircraft - a police Hydra spawns and that Hydra will fire one or more heat-seaking missiles at you (appearing as little red markers on your radar). This might happen very quickly or only after a while and so far I haven't found out if there's any rule to that. What to do to avoid those missiles highly depends on your actual situation in the game and all in all, flying is generally rather unpredictable.


about that: how much missles come is depending how good of a aim can he get at you. it goes like this:when you fly straight then he gets a good aim and shoots as many missles as it can, and if you pull out some stunts and turn alot then it wont get a good aim and wont be able to shoot much/any missles at you(personal experience)

srry if this is already added

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 12:14 AM

Hey guys, thanks to this wonderful guide from Rubregg with helpful & valuable contributions from the other esteemed & highly skilled GTA veterans, i took up this early side mission challenge and was able to achieve the 13.37% completion finally. Woots! Whew!

I had previously once made it to 100% completion and learnt a lot of new things about GTA SA from this guide and the forum as whole in general.

These are some of the things i was able to do using this topic as a guide:

*Managed to get a Sandking(with hydraulics) from the big eye in the desert by jumping over the bridge at Montgomery intersection.

*Getting the Rockshore east minigun by climbing the scaffolding. I also used the excellent defensive cover offered by the scaffolding to maximise some of the other weapon stats, increase respect stat, by shooting the cops & their cars and collecting the minigun which spawned every 6 mins.

*Got a Seasparrow parked on top of the Mulholand safehouse garage.

PS:An off topic query is how to know what version of game (V1 or V2) i am running?
The loading screen doesn't show the version in my copy of the game and i haven't installed any patches.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:09 AM Edited by rubregg, 26 April 2009 - 08:17 AM.

@GTA_SA gamer
Thanks for the contribution. I haven't looked into missile shot patterns all too much yet, because it never made a difference to me whether I'd have to dodge 1 or 3 of them - a 360 usually gets rid of them all.

note to self: ...argh, I should really do some updating - can't see any spare time too soon though... confused.gif


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Thanks a lot, mate. Good to hear you found the guide useful and congrats on your success icon14.gif .

To answer your question, if your menu screen doesn't show any version info, then it's v1.

If you haven't changed the original installation in any way, then you could also try to load a v1 save and a v2 save from here - the one that won't crash your game on loading is the version you have. Or you could upload one of your saves to gtasnp, it'll tell you the version of your .exe.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 12:47 PM Edited by laezy, 26 April 2009 - 12:50 PM.

QUOTE (rubregg @ Apr 26 2009, 08:09)

Thanks a lot, mate. Good to hear you found the guide useful and congrats on your success icon14.gif .

To answer your question, if your menu screen doesn't show any version info, then it's v1.

If you haven't changed the original installation in any way, then you could also try to load a v1 save and a v2 save from here - the one that won't crash your game on loading is the version you have. Or you could upload one of your saves to gtasnp, it'll tell you the version of your .exe.


Thanks once again for your reply and the info about finding the version of the game.

I followed your instructions and my version is apparently the V1 original and i was able to successfully load a V1 savegame(Zmoonchild's ultimate starter game) downloaded from the link. smile.gif .


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Posted 26 April 2009 - 04:04 PM

i got the experience of missles when i first got a REAL hard time dodging them. i watched the radar and wth? ive got 6-8 missles on my tail.it was so hillarios to get multiple hits.finnaly i bailed.right now i cant play san an cause my video card needs to be replaced. sad.gif

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 11:18 AM

I have a question concerning the collecting of horseshoes. OrionSR once stated that there are four locations that require an aircraft to get to, but for me, there are six locations that require an aircraft: The four that OrionSR mentioned plus the one on top of The Four Dragons and the one on top of the casino on the Old Venturas Strip.

I know that Orion currently has limited access to the internet, but could anyone else tell me how are those two acquired without an aircraft?
Iíve tried a few different ways, and Iím sure that Iím missing something.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 11:58 AM Edited by GTA Phreak, 29 June 2009 - 12:03 PM.

I believe OrionSR used the bicycle super bunny jump for those, I never got that to work myself.

But I do think they're reachable by a series of stunt jumps on a bike, but it's hardly worth the trouble (and can probably only be done on the NRG)

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 12:09 PM

Did a SEARCH for Horseshoe with OrionSR as the poster:
got:

http://www.gtaforums...hlite=horseshoe

as the result.

Seems as said its Bunny Hop to get there.

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Posted 29 June 2009 - 05:19 PM

Thanks, both of you, for pointing that out. icon14.gif

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:28 AM Edited by rubregg, 06 July 2009 - 02:44 AM.

Sorry for spotting this late.

Yes, you can get to the horseshoes at Four Dragons and the Old Strip Casino with super bunny hops / mega hops (shoot machine gun directly after hopping off for extra height - tricky timing, I often need a couple of tries). OrionSR even pulled it off to get to the one on the billboard by megahopping off the chinese mall. I never made that one.

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 08:10 PM Edited by ralenor, 04 October 2009 - 06:14 PM.

I just came across this guide again, I remember reading it when I was working on a master save file last year, haven't really played SA since then, but I recently dug it out again to give it a spin. Great work rubregg, lots of goods tips for 4-star survival. Nice work on the videos too. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

Something that puzzled me though (I haven't read every post so perhaps this has been brought up already):

QUOTE (rubregg @ Jun 7 2007, 20:10)
There's one Jetmax in SF and one in LV, find them where routes 1 & 2 on the map begin. The one in LV even has some armour right next to it.


Unless I'm missing something, there is more than one Jetmax around LV. Is there a particular reason the others aren't mentioned?

There is one just off the SE coast which is a better location IMO. It spawns more reliably then the Jetmax at the pier. No predators spawn around this area so it's a safer getaway. It's over the hill/cliff so cop cars can't follow you, the area is well away from ped spawns, and there is more than enough space to shoot down a police helicopter without risking the boat (it's a little way off-shore so it's best to take out the police helicopter before heading down from the hill, which is steep, go down at an angle to avoid losing health).

There is another Jetmax east of the Sobell rail yards (north end), which is also a fairly cop-free location. No predators spawn around there either, or indeed anywhere along the entire east coast, so while it's a long trip back, it's plain sailing, so to speak.

QUOTE (zmoonchild @ Jun 29 2009, 11:18)
I have a question concerning the collecting of horseshoes. OrionSR once stated that there are four locations that require an aircraft to get to, but for me, there are six locations that require an aircraft: The four that OrionSR mentioned plus the one on top of The Four Dragons and the one on top of the casino on the Old Venturas Strip.

I know that Orion currently has limited access to the internet, but could anyone else tell me how are those two acquired without an aircraft?
Iíve tried a few different ways, and Iím sure that Iím missing something.


It is easy to get onto the roof of the Four Dragon's on a bicycle with a few (normal) bunny hops, though it's straightforward with a mega-hop too. I preferred not having to "resort" to the mega-hop for horseshoe collection though, it seems a bit too close to being cheating for my liking. I used it extensively in my first few master saves but then I started looking for alternative routes.

You can also get onto the Casino roof with a series of regular bunny hops. However, the only route I have found is a bit tricky and the landing zone is crap, easy to fall off the roof (it's possible to land more safely but it's a difficult jump, much harder than just getting over there). I didn't risk it on a real run as it's fairly safe to reach in a seasparrow (well, safer than the other airborne shoes anyway, plenty of cover from the buildings, though I have been hit a few times on landing/takeoff).

Indeed, without mega-hopping, there are only six (four airborne) you can't get just with the mountain bike (or seven (five airborne) if you discount that tricky Casino jump).

Oh, and thanks for the tip that a seasparrow can be stored on the mulholland garage, great find, it saved me a lot of time during my horseshoe forays.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 11:29 AM

This topic is great, any luck with the rustler?
Anyway i skimmed through the girlfriend FAQ on GameFAQS and it says a way to get a + in relationships is to complete the 2 player date thing. Is it possible to activate these 2 player free roams in a 4 star area? If so maybe you could get 100% doing this, after getting that 45% from Orions trick with Oysters.

If anyone has tried this before please let me know how it went
Also if you get nagative money from debt in gambling, do you get a phone call saying you owe money, and do people try kill you when youa re in LV on a master save file? Something i might add for the fun of it to one of my files, although i will miss out on a big Crim rating bonus

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:33 PM Edited by OrionSR, 25 September 2009 - 01:13 AM.

No, I don't believe anyone has yet acquired a Rustler on a Master Save. However, we recently discovered how to jack everything proof cars from the girlfriends available at the beginning of the game. http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=424135

I'm not sure if the 2-player dates provide progress under 4 star conditions. It's worth a shot. Let us know how it works out. That option isn't available on PC so I haven't tested it. There is another progress trick reported in the topic linked below but I can't get it to work, and looking at the PC and PS2 scripts, I can't figure out how it could work. Perhaps this is a bogus report. http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=407201

BTW, I've had inconsistent luck with that oyster trick. I'm sure it works, but the timing is fairly tricky. The girlfriends need to be at 0% progress, but can't finish the process of dumping CJ. They must still be available at home or the girlfriend meeting routine will set them back to 15%.

Yes, it is possible to get the phone call and mob attacks when LV is still restricted, but it seems that the scripts won't kick in if CJ has a wanted level above 0. This would appear to limit the mob interactions to the Jetmax dock, and perhaps a few other spots along the south bank.

ralenor, I'm not sure why those other LV Jetmaxes were not included in the guide. I started using them, but when I learned the trick of riding over the rail of the Mako Span I pretty much gave up on using boats for return trips to LS. However, I still use the Jetmax at the dock north of Palomino Creek fairly often because it is unrestricted and can be used for collecting oysters.

Added: The 4 Dragon's lower roof with the horseshoe can be reached by riding up the ramp of High Rollers, and then bunny hopping from one roof to the next behind the casinos. I'm still not sure how to reach the horseshoe on the casino on the old strip without a mega-hop, but I am quite curious.

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Posted 24 September 2009 - 05:38 PM

Thanks a lot, ralenor and Jack Reacher .

I haven't tried the eastcost LV Jetmax yet, but that sounds like a good suggestion. As for the bunnyhopping, I've gone up to the Casino Roof with normal bunny hops once, but that was with a packer and a car on top of the packer (something like that, it's been a while) and overall quite a hassle. How do you jump there? And how do you jump up to the 4 Dragons roof?

About the negative cash thing, we're doing that in our modded Chain Game save but I haven't tried it early in the game in locked-off LV.


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 02:20 AM

Ok so when i collect the last oyster, all 3 GFs MUST be at home, as in the red marker is there to start a date? I cant remember the exact time they are at home, is there a time period that they are all home at the same time?

Also, what is the minimum % that the girls can be at before they dump you? I might try make a seperate save where they are all on this % and then il try from there, getting them to dump me as fast as possible and hopefully get them all on 0 and somehow get the timing right for the last oyster.

thanks for the fast reply though i didnt expect it so fast seeing as most of these posts are like in 2007, i though i would have to wait a few weeks

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:03 AM Edited by OrionSR, 25 September 2009 - 03:09 AM.

Hm... I guess those comments were a bit misleading. Let me try again.

The girlfriends' heart icon must be at their homes - the girlfriends must still be active. If they dump CJ the heart icon will disappear, and when he meets them again they get set back to 15%.

These girlfriend scripts are terribly complicated. It is difficult to figure out what the hell is going on most of the time, and I've only tried this trick a few times. What I would recommend is keeping a save before trying any of my suggestions - I'd hate to screw things up for you. Then collect all but the last oyster; preferably an easy one in LS. Meet the girls and date them down to almost 0% and save again. Make one last trip to visit all the girls, knock off the last of their progress, collect the last oyster, and check the progress. I strongly suspect they will be at 45% progress.

I think where I ran into trouble before was dating them down to 0% and then starting the oyster collection. By the time I collected the last oyster the girlfriend had vanished from the map and the trick wouldn't work.

Actually, what I would recommend is working on collecting their proofed vehicles. It's really easy to disable the two-timing dates for the rest of the game so if you like collecting proofed vehicles, then sooner is better than later.

The minimum percentage before they dump CJ is somewhere at or below 0%. I haven't messed with this much, but I was trying to get a girlfriend to dump CJ recently and after reaching 0% CJ could still date them a couple of times before he got dumped. CJ was on a dating spree, so perhaps 0% plus a bit of time would also lead to dumping.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 03:38 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 25 September 2009 - 04:19 AM.

Ok thanks. Right now im doing the glitch wher eyou go away from them and the bar fills up.

Its really strange, im doing it with Michelle right now, away from cops inside the driving school. It keeps saying progress with Michelle in the Green, a +
AS soon as it vanishes, another Progress update appears. However it doesnt seem to be increasing at all, i have bene standing here getting this updates but it doesnt seem to budge, my stats still say she is at 15%

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 04:23 AM

Well, you are doing better than I did. I couldn't get anything to happen at all. Don't give up hope. There are two progress variables for each girlfriend. One is a global variable, which usually does all the work, and another is an integer stat that gets displayed in the menu. There is a chance that the global will update the stat and you will see the progress.

^See what I mean about the GF scripts being confusing. I try not to clutter the topic with useless technical details, but I'm never sure what will be important information.

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 04:33 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 25 September 2009 - 05:16 AM.

Ok i will keep a save where i have no GFs just to be sure, but for now i cbf trying it, il wait till the TC of the other topic replies and see if he had the same thing

I left the driving school, killed a few cops for a while, checked my stats and Michelle was still on 15%. I really didnt have to walk far, like 3 steps away from here. Maybe i coul dhave done it wrong, when you first meet her it goes up to 15% even if you dont say yes or no. So maybe i should have not answered her and kept walking up to her? il try again later, right now im going to carry on my main save file and get all 3 GFs at 15%. normally.

Update- I went and got Michelle again on my main master file and decided to walk up to her, get the progress bar but ignore her and not press left or right

I walked away a few steps, walked back and the progress bar went up again, and she asked for my number again. i repeated 5 times, kept getting the bar but on my stats no change. So i accepted her, and went back to LS and saved. Checked the stats, still 15%. This global stat though, does it mean i may have 20%? I guess a way to find out would be to do it 35 times and see if her car is unlocked, its a shame the oyster trick doesnt go to 50%.

I also tried to get Barbara. I landed behind the cop station and shot all the cops, although i think i nicked her when changing targets. I ran up to her and she fired at me, and my progress bar with her went up a bit, i checked my stats and she wasnt even listed there ( could be this global stat you mentioned?)

So i came back later, accepted her,but it was still at 15%

I then died, when i respawned in LS she wasnt even in my stats at all, but the heart was in El Quebardos (sp?) Yeah these GF stats are messed up lol, i didnt save that so i still just have Michelle and Katie. I will try this jelousy date thing, once i have all their vehicles in Doherty then i will try the oyster trick and 2 player tricks

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Posted 25 September 2009 - 06:58 AM

I'm really skeptical about gaining progress when meeting the girlfriends. After reading your description I'm starting to suspect that this is a stat display glitch and not a stat progress glitch. One reason I suspect the glitch doesn't work is because the Girlfriend Meeting script doesn't add to the progress. It will set the progress to 0 or 15, but these are absolute assignments, not additive. There are several scripts that interact to control the girlfriends, so perhaps something else is triggering a glitch. One thing that confuses the issue is that, IIRC, if you interact at the meeting spot, or simply drive by the area, the girlfriend ends up with 10% progress, so I'm not sure where that -5% kicks in.

I'm not sure how to describe the difference between the global variable and integer stats for the girlfriends. There are some fundamental differences in how they work in the scripts. As far as I know, there is no way to directly add to or subtract from the integer stats. To add 5 to an integer stat the script would read the stat to a variable, alter the variable, and then assign the stat to the value of the variable.

Somehow I doubt that cleared up any confusion. Um... I play on PC and have tools that can display the value of the global variables for the girlfriend progress. If I pick up a girlfriend for a date and give her a gift I can see the change in progress right away in the global variable. However, the integer stat doesn't get updated until the date is over and would include changes due to the success of the date, coffee after the date, and any kissing.

I noticed something similar to your experience with Barbara. I met Michelle inside the driving school, got bored waiting for something to happen, and punched to death the person she was talking with. Michelle crouched and covered her head, and I noticed the global variable for progress was reduced to 0%, but I'm fairly certain the integer stat was still at 15%. I didn't follow up to see how things updated. If it is consistent then perhaps this would be a quick way to get Michelle and Barbara to 0% (the GFs that prefer CJ to be fat) in preparation for collecting the last oyster.


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Posted 25 September 2009 - 07:13 AM

Im just going to ignore that glitch untill anything else comes up, with a PS2 its hard for me to really know if im even doing anything.
Anyway has anyone done this oyster thing yet on PS2, where they get to 45%?

My plan is to get each of them to 5%, i think you lose 5% each time for a failed date. i will make sure my last oyster to collect is near SF, instead of LS. This way as soon as i fail Katie and get her to 0%, its quicker to get that oyster instead of going to LS, save then get the oyster. I also need to find the times they are available to date and try get all 3 at the same time. Im not sure how to get to SF from barbaras location fast atm, so im thinking il fail Katie, then michelle, getting them both on 0%.

Then il go to SF airport, fly over to Barbarra, quickly fail hers and fly off to a nearby oyster.I havent really thought of much of it yet i was really planning as i typed then, im no where near 49 oysters yet done all of LS and Red County so il cross that bridge when i get 49. How long roughly did it take for a GF to dump you though once you go them to 0%? you had to collect more oysters than me though, im just getting 1

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Posted 26 September 2009 - 05:17 AM Edited by Jack Reacher, 27 September 2009 - 04:40 AM.

I thought of an idea for anyone still interested in starting a master save.

Basically its perfect stats, im doing 0 busts and wastes but i thought of something even harder while doing that. Many people like their msision attempts the same as mission passed ( i screwed this up though with taxi missions) so this will make this challenge harder

For this stat challenge you need NO money spent on Pay N Spray. Basically you will need to use bribes for vigilante, but also for taxi mission and pimp mission you gotta do ti all in one go without Pay N Spray
The real hard part is NO Legitimate kills. You must get 13.37% without a legitimate kill. For maxing weapons shoot cars i guess, i think you can run people over and it wont count. Anyoen think this challenge is possible? Getting max respect may be a problem...

Just a quick edit, maybe keep wanted stars attained and wanted stars evaded the same. To do this i think you can save to get rid of 1 star, anything higher you must use bribes, cloth changes or PnS

You can use PnS as it conflicts with the other challenge, and if you want to go hardcore i guess you could try doing it without collecting bribes. If you swim in the water it goes to 3 pretty fast ( for me) then use a chopper no hydra, or somehow get to your safe house and change clothes, not sure how effective this isbut its the best way to ditch wanted stars and keep stats perfect

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 09:05 PM Edited by ralenor, 04 October 2009 - 08:41 PM.

QUOTE (OrionSR @ Sep 24 2009, 17:33)

Added: The 4 Dragon's lower roof with the horseshoe can be reached by riding up the ramp of High Rollers, and then bunny hopping from one roof to the next behind the casinos. I'm still not sure how to reach the horseshoe on the casino on the old strip without a mega-hop, but I am quite curious.


Yes indeed. It took me a long time to figure that out. Strangely, I saw the Pink Swan hops (I go around the front) almost straight away but it took me a while to notice the jump from the High Roller.

As for the Casino, I've practised that a little bit more, it's not as bad as I first thought but it's still a pain. I haven't yet tried it on a real run.

Go to the Steakhouse next to the Cluckin' Bell (where the horseshoe is behind the sign), hop onto the ledge alongside Cluckin' Bell, then onto the ledge where the horseshoe is. Now hop up onto the roof of the steakhouse. Then hop onto the raised roof to the east and ride north over the roof of Cluckin' Bell and hop over the road onto the ledge over the shops. Go to the east end and ride north (fast) along the ledge and do a big hop (turn in a bit before jumping) over to the Casino. You should also turn in the air so that you land facing west or you can get stuck in the crevice where the awning meets the edge of the marquee thing at the end.

All in all, it's a bit of a pulava so it's probably not really worth it. I find that the Casino is not too bad to fly to before/after the Emerald Isle. It's easy with a mega-hop of course, but as I said I prefer not to use that for horseshoe collection.

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If you do want to use this route, at first I had trouble getting onto the steakhouse, often I'd get the bike frame caught on the edge of the roof and had to pump the w (forward) key to get up. It turns out I was jumping slightly too late, if you jump just as the back wheel passes the edge of the sign (the far edge obviously, closest to the steakhouse), you get up easily, the back wheel (rather than the frame) catches the roof, but it's just a little bump. The final jump onto the Casino though, is still less than optimal.

QUOTE (Jack Reacher @ Sep 26 2009, 05:17)
I thought of an idea for anyone still interested in starting a master save.

Basically its perfect stats, im doing 0 busts and wastes but i thought of something even harder while doing that. Many people like their msision attempts the same as mission passed ( i screwed this up though with taxi missions) so this will make this challenge harder
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Just a quick edit, maybe keep wanted stars attained and wanted stars evaded the same. To do this i think you can save to get rid of 1 star, anything higher you must use bribes, cloth changes or PnS


Is it even possible to keep the mission attempts/completions equal? Surely you'd always have at least the first two Chiliad races as attempts, but not completions? Burglary too but that can be balanced by doing BMX before NRG.

Also, I thought bribes did not count as an evasion? Plus, in 4-star territory, sometimes the level goes down to 3 and then immediately back up again. This seems to count as an additional wanted star, but is not counted as an evasion AFAICT. This would make it virtually impossible to keep the stats equal.

Doing a master save with no legitimate kills, that would certainly be challenging. 4-star stuff probably wouldn't be much different since you really want to avoid the cops as much as possible anyway (use plenty of tear gas when you can't avoid them). Vigilante would maybe be the hardest part, not to mention extremely annoying without collecting at least a couple of bribes (you'd be up to 4 stars by level 8 or so). As for respect, does shooting helicopters count as a kill, I've never noticed? If not, you might increase respect that way. But maxing weapons/respect like that sounds extremely tedious, it takes long enough raising both together by shooting the cops.

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 11:40 PM Edited by Jack Reacher, 28 September 2009 - 02:25 AM.

Yeah i know im not gonig to bother with this challenge, just putting it out there for the die hards who want something more and want to know if its even possible

Im not too fussed about mission attempts, didnt know about chiliad stuff so that cans that idea. I have never gone to 3 stars randomly on 4 star territory, only when i go swimming.
I have an idea for vigilante. Orion found out how to get proofed GFs cars, check his topic on that in the cheats section. If you can get barbaras rancher to LS then you could do vigilante in a fully proofed car. The first 5 levels should be done on a bike by using the door trick, if i get on and off my bike faster and enter the night club i can get my timer really high, i got 30 minutes by the time i got to level 5. After that it doesnt seem to work, they teleport to mulholland but dont die. From there use the proofed rancher and simply drive by them untill it smokes black and try get them out, then run them over. Cops and the AKs from the criminals shoudlnt be a problem at all,i believe it could be possible.

Update- I just thought of a different idea, if you arent fusse about gang members recruited then get all 100 tags, get 3 gang members with good guns in your fully proofed rancher and let them take out the criminals, you can also use them for pimping missions.

Only hard part is maxing guns, you could do that by shooting cars and stuff, no idea how you would get respect though, like you said maybe shooting poilce choppers gets you respect but no kill as there is no pilot. Whenever you want to ditch your wanted level you gotta go to a safe house and change clothes, always does the trick for me. No bribes could also be a challenge.

im having a very hard time getting all snapshots, every time i go to that tall building, the weather always sucks, its very foggy or clowdy and i gotta wait. Maybe i ltry get a fully proofed monster and do them 1 by 1.

Orion: I tried 2 player for GFs, got negative progress as soon as it started. I read that it is based on the last date you did so i figured if i met them, got the 15% positive and then did 2 player it would be fine, no luck. Il try after i get them to 45% and all oysters, maybe it might help. Also at 45% maybe you can have more luck dating them, have you tried doing a She Drives date with Michelle on 4 star with around 45%? what % is needed to trigger it?




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