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mac915
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#31

Posted 05 June 2007 - 07:25 PM

QUOTE (soleil @ Jun 5 2007, 15:14)
QUOTE (mac915 @ Jun 5 2007, 18:46)
I think a way to solve the, "What if you kill the landlord" problem is to just have him locked in his apartment all the time. Now hear me out.

You buy an apartment, you stay there for awhile and suddenly you get a call on your phone. Its the landlord telling you your rent is due. You go to his door, and a short cutscene comes on. Depending on how long you wait to give him his money, he is either happy with you, slightly annoyed, or extremely p!$$ed off. Either way he tells you to slide the money under the door. If you don't pay him, you can't enter your apartment, you can't save at that location anymore, and if you continue to bother the landlord, he calls the cops.

What do you think?

I think it'd be simpler if you guys would realize that many many buildings don't just have one landlord. Many of them are leased out by companies, and so killing one guy isn't going to eliminate your source of rent-collectors. Companies own and lease out multiple buildings. Niko should just be living in one of those buildings instead of one that is owned by one landlord.

That's true, but this isn't real estate tycoon. The less complex the system is, the more enjoyable(for some people anyway). The easiest way to accomplish the bill paying aspect is to have deal with one person. If it becomes tedious it isn't enjoyable.

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#32

Posted 05 June 2007 - 07:49 PM

From what I'm reading these are some of the key issues I've always had when playing the GTA series. Now I hope I can really immerse myself into the character and struggle to make ends meet.

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#33

Posted 05 June 2007 - 07:50 PM

QUOTE (mac915 @ Jun 5 2007, 14:25)
QUOTE (soleil @ Jun 5 2007, 15:14)
QUOTE (mac915 @ Jun 5 2007, 18:46)
I think a way to solve the, "What if you kill the landlord" problem is to just have him locked in his apartment all the time. Now hear me out.

You buy an apartment, you stay there for awhile and suddenly you get a call on your phone. Its the landlord telling you your rent is due. You go to his door, and a short cutscene comes on. Depending on how long you wait to give him his money, he is either happy with you, slightly annoyed, or extremely p!$$ed off. Either way he tells you to slide the money under the door. If you don't pay him, you can't enter your apartment, you can't save at that location anymore, and if you continue to bother the landlord, he calls the cops.

What do you think?

I think it'd be simpler if you guys would realize that many many buildings don't just have one landlord. Many of them are leased out by companies, and so killing one guy isn't going to eliminate your source of rent-collectors. Companies own and lease out multiple buildings. Niko should just be living in one of those buildings instead of one that is owned by one landlord.

That's true, but this isn't real estate tycoon. The less complex the system is, the more enjoyable(for some people anyway). The easiest way to accomplish the bill paying aspect is to have deal with one person. If it becomes tedious it isn't enjoyable.

I don't think that's what he's getting at though. Having to pay out to a company rather than one person doesn't have to mak it any more complicated. Niko could simply have a mailbox that you walk up to and a list of options could be brought up such as 1) Submit rent money 3) Send other bills 2) Pickup mail 4) Send death threats, etc. (sh*t, I inadvertently thought up a mailbox feature. Maybe I'll toss it in the wishlist...)

In fact, it might be interesting if a few places had a landlord yu could take out, which could result in A) A lost safe house, B) A new Landlord, C) Unwanted heat from the filth in that loction for awhile, D) Someone looking to get revenge on you for the murder. And that's a good example of what I mean when I say I want the consequences of my actions to be largely unpredictable.

I could get carrid away and go into much more depth, but I'll leave it at that for now.

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#34

Posted 05 June 2007 - 07:55 PM

He's a fish in a pond with other fish..this doesn't mean he won't be big. It simply means he won't be over the whole lot of them like San an turned out and Vice City.

I'd bet on him being able to be on par with some of the biggest. But not being above them so probably still answering to them.

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#35

Posted 05 June 2007 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE (mac915 @ Jun 5 2007, 19:25)
That's true, but this isn't real estate tycoon. The less complex the system is, the more enjoyable(for some people anyway). The easiest way to accomplish the bill paying aspect is to have deal with one person. If it becomes tedious it isn't enjoyable.

Xcommunicated said it. When you pay a big company, you still write out one check and mail it to one address, or hand deliver it to one office. It's no more complicated than dealing with one person.

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#36

Posted 05 June 2007 - 09:17 PM

Quality, and i totally agree. Great points and I'm glad you wrote all that up because I sure as hell would have been bothered enough.

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mac915
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#37

Posted 05 June 2007 - 09:18 PM

I see what you are trying to say now. Instead of dealing with the person, you deal with the company. That would take care of one of the biggest problems people have with the paying bills system. I actually think that would work pretty well as long as it was simple and you didn't spend too much time looking at menus(completely takes you out of the game).

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#38

Posted 05 June 2007 - 10:24 PM

When I suggested paying bills like rent or paying off Romans debts I had more off a direct debit system in mind the same as VCS but money going out instead of in and if you have'nt got the money you would have blokes coming after you like in SA when you got into debt with the casinos.

P.S. I'm starting to think I should have just started a bills and debts topic.

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#39

Posted 06 June 2007 - 05:47 AM

QUOTE (TheCollector @ Jun 5 2007, 19:55)
He's a fish in a pond with other fish..this doesn't mean he won't be big. It simply means he won't be over the whole lot of them like San an turned out and Vice City.

I'd bet on him being able to be on par with some of the biggest. But not being above them so probably still answering to them.

I agree. It didn't really feel like you had much competition in VC or SA. In III, however, almost everyone is dogging each other and selling each other out and there is a LOT of competition and you're the center of it. I want that feeling again.

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 07:42 AM

QUOTE (mac915 @ Jun 5 2007, 21:18)
I see what you are trying to say now. Instead of dealing with the person, you deal with the company. That would take care of one of the biggest problems people have with the paying bills system. I actually think that would work pretty well as long as it was simple and you didn't spend too much time looking at menus(completely takes you out of the game).

well, depinding on how they do the real time, game time thing, you should only have to do it every real time week.

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#41

Posted 07 June 2007 - 01:54 PM Edited by geomy, 07 June 2007 - 02:20 PM.

QUOTE (agincourtsalute @ Jun 5 2007, 17:24)
I'm starting to think I should have just started a bills and debts topic.

@ agincourtsalute: thanks for taking the bills to their own thread. It really was dominating the discussion here, and that's not really what this thread is about.

What it is about is why Niko will not be the king of Liberty City. He won't have a mansion in the hills, he won't have 15 businesses, he might not ever even have his own place. Hell, he might not even have a garage * cry.gif That could eat a big part of Niko's cash, constantly repairing vehicles.

QUOTE (Anti-Realism extremist @ later date)
But that is sooo stupid, we would have to fix the car like every 5 minutes. It would take away from the fun! icon13.gif

Learn to drive wink.gif


* Aside from Roman's taxi business, assuming he remains in control of that asset.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:15 PM

QUOTE (jallar @ Jun 5 2007, 13:37)
Oh great, a point-to-point storyline and less pony-farming in order to seem more 'serious'.

What a load of sh*t. Let's hope for their sake the interviews are wrong.

sorry but you sir are a ignorant mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:24 PM

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:26 PM

I just want to play the game to see what this really means...

I think I might like it, I always wanted to slum it as a criminal.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 10:48 PM Edited by Supreme., 27 December 2007 - 10:51 PM.

Although some of the stuff in here goes overboard, imo, I agree with alot of it.

@Topic: I f*cking LOVE that money has more meaning in that we don't get paid as much for missions and it being harder to make big bucks. With more things to buy and more varied and probably difficult ways to make money, it can't fail with me, and needed to be done. I mean, it got plain ridiculous after SA came out.

But whatever floats your boat, and on that note, I'd still like to get that penthouse suite in Algonquin or small mansion in Alderney eventually. Just want it to take alot longer to make it all feel like much more of an accomplishment.

That's how I interpret/want things to be. Good look. icon14.gif

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#46

Posted 09 January 2008 - 03:42 AM

It would be pretty funny if random people came up to Niko with oddjobs. Just like small things like distracting cops.

I also think that the value of a dollar should come into account here. Money is hard to come by, but if you can find those places where the money is the best you should be able to get rich and buy whatever you want.

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Posted 09 January 2008 - 03:54 AM

QUOTE (Supreme. @ Dec 27 2007, 22:48)
Although some of the stuff in here goes overboard, imo, I agree with alot of it.

@Topic: I f*cking LOVE that money has more meaning in that we don't get paid as much for missions and it being harder to make big bucks. With more things to buy and more varied and probably difficult ways to make money, it can't fail with me, and needed to be done. I mean, it got plain ridiculous after SA came out.

But whatever floats your boat, and on that note, I'd still like to get that penthouse suite in Algonquin or small mansion in Alderney eventually. Just want it to take alot longer to make it all feel like much more of an accomplishment.

That's how I interpret/want things to be. Good look. icon14.gif

Couldn't agree with you more.
The fact that money is a lot more valuable
will in a way make the game seem like it lasts for longer.
For example in SA after 10 minutes of playing you could literally
have the money to buy ANY object, gun property, article of clothing that you wanted.
It just made it all seem far less of a thrill than it actually seemed it would be before it came out.
TMMS maybe?




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