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Posted 12 May 2007 - 06:36 AM

Well I checked a couple of pages back didn't see this topic so here go's nothing. Now in previous GTA we were able to run buisnesses, but lets say that now we can invest money in big companies in the gta universe such as sprunk,didier sachs or maybe maibatsu. This could be a side mission or a major plot point. This could be implemented in a number of ways.

1. Major news stories could drive up the price of certain commodities. Such as a major storm has damaged a large orange grove in florida. This could be an excellent time to invest in orange commodities.

2. Advertising if a company appears to be opening alo0t of new stores it could be doing well, might mean its time to buy stock in it. But if the company opens to many stores it will cut it's own customer base so it's time to sell.

3. Maybe some kind of savings or bonds you could buy. Just wait for them to mature and bam you made some money.

This is all theoreticaly possible except the building of new stores. But this could be solved by having rotating storefronts. Lets say a pizza place goes out of buisness, the store front would be empty for awhile and then a new store would move in. Now it depends on the type of buisness and the neigborhood if the buisness survives or not. If it doesent succede another place will try and so on. But basicaly I am thinking about a active dynamic economy. Anything to add?

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 06:44 AM

Very interesting idea dude. I think it would be a fun feature to add to the game.

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 06:56 AM

I vote: F*** YEAH! tounge.gif

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 07:01 AM

Or bringing down advertizments of other competing companies by planting c4 charges on them, etc. Sounds like fun!

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 07:15 AM

I failed to realise the criminal element, can we say insider trading wink.gif We could hire a broker and dictate how much money to invest and how much risk is involved. There could be a couple investment suggestions that your broker could give you. first he would give a list of companies in two catagories. High risk but possible high profit companies or low risk investments that do provide a profit but it is considerbly lower. Now you could go for it and put your money on the risky company or you can play it safe with the dependable company. It could be alot like gambling except with more homework comes bigger rewards.

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 07:35 AM

It sounds good but it has been said "this is'nt a rags
to richies story" so I doubt there will be much
investing in or taking over businessies if at all

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 10:43 AM

Even if it didn't follow the plot,lets face it after we beat the story/sidemissions we would have a butt load of money. What better way than blowing it on the stock market.

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:09 PM

We should be able to own businesses that's cool icon14.gif

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 01:56 PM

Good topic.

Here is my idea: invest in a large business, say... Pizza Stack. Buy as many shares as you can. Then, suddenly, a whole lot of mom and pop pizza places in LC catch fire. How did that happen?

Arson baby! Pizza Stack stock: icon14.gif

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Posted 12 May 2007 - 06:39 PM

I could see Niko doing some dirty work on Wallstreet.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 03:40 AM

Nice idea SMB. I think it would fit in perfectly with the game as you can do missions to destroy other companies and do missions to boost your company up the stock market. Anyways topic rated good. icon14.gif

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 06:24 AM

QUOTE (silvermanblue @ May 12 2007, 10:43)
Even if it didn't follow the plot,lets face it after we beat the story/sidemissions we would have a butt load of money. What better way than blowing it on the stock market.

What better way to illustrate a non rags to riches storyline than giving us a "butt load of money" suicidal.gif

A nice idea but the chances of it happening are pretty small

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 06:27 AM

QUOTE (Gregatron @ May 12 2007, 13:56)
Good topic.

Here is my idea: invest in a large business, say... Pizza Stack. Buy as many shares as you can. Then, suddenly, a whole lot of mom and pop pizza places in LC catch fire. How did that happen?

Arson baby! Pizza Stack stock: icon14.gif

I like your thinking, Gregatron.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 06:56 AM

I can just imagine walking into the restroom at the stock exchange...

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE (BCspeed34 @ May 13 2007, 06:56)
I can just imagine walking into the restroom at the stock exchange...

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-Pay up, Mortimer. I've won the bet.
-Alright here you go, one dollar!

lol good movie, can't remember exactly what its called, but i've never seen the whole movie, just the end half.

I think stock exchange investments would be a great idea, but not too sure if it will be done, seeing as it is a GTA game, and in the past they haven't really focused on stocks and investing; and also its not supposed to be a "rags to riches" story, which can easily be defied by gaining hell money on the stock exchange. Although it would be an awesome addition, i'm not sure if it will be added.

Maybe after the game is finished, you will somehow get shares in an associated criminal organisations company (happens during the storyline), and this will generate money daily for you, so you earn a bit everyday (kinda like the money you picked up from businesses in VC, and sorta in SA) -- just an idea.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 07:39 AM

A couple of insightful posts and good arguments smile.gif . But what i get from the whole this isnt your typical rags to riches story, is that you should plot your own destiny. Not be dictated by the story line to much. I don't know just seems like what dan was trying to convey with that line. But anyways back on topic I think a dynamic economy would just add to the realisim of the world IMO.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 08:29 AM

Even if this isn't a "rags to riches" story, there's nothing that says you won't have a butt-load of cash at the end of the game.

Perhaps part way through the game you will get introduced to someone who has a job on Wall Street or something. What's to say you can't start that kind of stuff later on?

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 09:35 AM

Eh... Niko meets a crooked stock broker and starts to do some insider trading. Then the SEC gets word of this and comes after Niko, so Niko pulls out an Uzi and hoses 'em all. Yeah, I could see that being possible.

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 02:19 PM

id prefer Sock exchange instead biggrin.gif

but the businesses idea as good, thought i can not see Niko runnig more than 2 businesses

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 02:34 PM

If it isnt a rags to riches story then maybe were not going to to be able to buy things like shares in businesses, mansions or super cars etc or if we are will we be seeing an exit for the money cheat?

I hope not...

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 11:31 PM

GTA 3 wasnt a rags to riches story but you end up with a s**t load of money at the end of it

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 11:48 PM

QUOTE (silvermanblue @ May 12 2007, 06:36)
Well I checked a couple of pages back didn't see this topic so here go's nothing. Now in previous GTA we were able to run buisnesses, but lets say that now we can invest money in big companies in the gta universe such as sprunk,didier sachs or maybe maibatsu. This could be a side mission or a major plot point. This could be implemented in a number of ways.

1. Major news stories could drive up the price of certain commodities. Such as a major storm has damaged a large orange grove in florida. This could be an excellent time to invest in orange commodities.

2. Advertising if a company appears to be opening alo0t of new stores it could be doing well, might mean its time to buy stock in it. But if the company opens to many stores it will cut it's own customer base so it's time to sell.

3. Maybe some kind of savings or bonds you could buy. Just wait for them to mature and bam you made some money.

This is all theoreticaly possible except the building of new stores. But this could be solved by having rotating storefronts. Lets say a pizza place goes out of buisness, the store front would be empty for awhile and then a new store would move in. Now it depends on the type of buisness and the neigborhood if the buisness survives or not. If it doesent succede another place will try and so on. But basicaly I am thinking about a active dynamic economy. Anything to add?

it's good but i don't see it in, remember the whole "no rags to riches"...

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 02:07 AM

Nice man, very nice indeed. Have this cookie.gif


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Posted 14 May 2007 - 02:23 AM

Wow, I never would have expected people to get such hard-ons over capitalism in a video game. Oh, I'm in too for this, sounds like a fun way to make money.

Perhaps to help your stock, you could "eliminate" the competition or give them a hard time by bombing/firebombing, hi-jacking trucks of inventory to give to your business, picking off or threatening employees, etc. Or, hi-jacking and re-labeling taxicabs tounge.gif

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 02:38 AM

i had already made a post like this ass hole, next time search for it

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 02:49 AM

QUOTE (10gaborik @ May 13 2007, 20:38)
i had already made a post like this ass hole, next time search for it

I went about 8 pages back, I always try not to plagirise so I apologise. I geuss yahoo hasnt crawled it yet confused.gif

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 02:58 AM

dont worry about it man.....who gives a f*ck....dont matter...i was just f*cking with ya...i did make it though.....but i dont care

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#28

Posted 14 May 2007 - 04:37 PM

Good idea, silvermanblue.

But to put to rest tthe arguement about 'It's not a Rags to Riches tale', Dan Houser also stated about missions that some one could phone you wanting you to take someone out for a couple of grand and you've got 4 million in the account so you could tell them to get lost. Not an exact quote but it was mentioned in one of the mags in regard to the cellular phone function.

But I think the 'Rags to Riches' is in regard to building an 'Empire' like in Vice City and to an extent San Andreas, but Liberty City (based on New York) isn't the kind of place that could be easily run by one person, therefore no Rags to Riches.

Back at the ranch, yes I think this would be a nice little touch they have already shown stock figures in the trailer on the news-ticker in the 'Time Square' area, but then this could be purely coincidental.

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 04:58 PM

QUOTE (Shifty07 @ May 13 2007, 15:34)
If it isnt a rags to riches story then maybe were not going to to be able to buy things like shares in businesses, mansions or super cars etc or if we are will we be seeing an exit for the money cheat?

I hope not...

I was thinking this too. More than likely I believe you won't be dealing in large sums of money.

But, lets say for instance you have a sum of money in your bank account. You invest it in one of the many companies in GTA. However, instead of being able to make millions in a couple hours playing time, why not have it so as you have a fixed investment term, maybe a week, or a month of in-game time.

This way you will have to sacrifice cash for a period of time, and then the payoff should be substantial enough to make it worth your while, but not a ridiculous amount of money.

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 05:46 PM

being able to buy shares and stuff would be awesome, like betting on virtual horse races in SA was cool only better Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif anuj_cop.gif




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