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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:16 AM Edited by JCtheMC, 03 April 2007 - 01:50 AM.

As a lot of you know, a mysterious forum member named DeepThroatGTA4 has been leaving "Secret" hints about what to expect from the upcoming game throughout his posted pieces of messageboard prose. His story is a piece of fiction, but i (and a large number of other users) believe that his hints are infact true. He hinted at the game being located in NYC 3 times in the 3 weeks before the Trailer came out. Just read the posts and believe the conspiracy wink.gif Please take note of the dates on his posts. The trailer was released on March 29th. The first chance we'll have to confirm his info is on April 18th, when the May issue of GameInformer goes on sale.

I'm gathering all his posts here, because "his" topic is a big-ol' mess. You can read his original posts here: Revelation.

This post will be updated regularly with new posts & discoveries, just look for the Updates.



Post 1:
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Posted: Mar 11 2007, 12:33

Gents,

I have information that may be huge, I am about to relate to you an incident that occured this week. The information I am about to pass you could cost me my job if I was found to be passing it on, hence the nick name.

On Thursday 8th March 2007, at the bequest of a client, I was conducting a counter surveillance task along with my team in direct response to the repeated sighting of a suspicious vehicle in the vicinity of the clients property located in ManHattan, New York City.

Shortly after identifying the vehicle in question, the Team Leader decided a direct confrontation of the occupants was the most expeditious way forward. I, along with two others confronted the three male occupants of a 2005 GMC Suburban.

The Suburban was configured with an array of computer equipment in the back, a substantial amount of digital capture devices were mounted on the dash and the antenna located on the roof was similar to the small condan/tapestry antenna that I have seen previously on vehicles for tracking purposes.

The driver of the suburban produced credentials that showed he was an employee of Rockstar Games, my two other team members were satisfied and didn't realise the significance of the event, I opened the passenger side door and looked into the rear of the truck where one of the males shut down several LCD screens, but my heart skipped a beat as I looked at a folder on the desk which was emblazed with the "IV" official logo with the Manhattan Skyline clearly shown within the letters.

I tried to appear as calm as possible and walked away from the vehicle.

Make of it what you will.

Deepthroat.




Post 2:
Note: DeepThroat mentions an internet cafe in "HK"; seeing he's in NYC we're assuming that he means Hell's Kitchen (a neighbourhood in Manhattan), and not Hong Kong.
QUOTE
Posted: Mar 11 2007, 20:07

Gents,

Things have taken a turn for the sinister, almost immediately after I made the post an eerie chain of events was initiated. I left my hotel room to go out for a packet of cigarettes, not 100 meters down the street I noticed that I had a tail, these guys we're good, their rotation amongst operators was frequent and seamless, at one point the surveillance team were ahead of me which is a very advanced technique.

I pulled out every trick in the book, I walked contra-flow on 5th Avenue during rush hour, stepped of the subway as the doors were closing at the 52nd street station, discarded my jacket, walked into Macys via the front entrance and exited at the rear, into a cab and down to Tribeca. A mobile tail was immediately initiated by the team that was on me, they were every bit as competent as their foot team. At a dive bar in Tribeca I was engaged by a female who was blatantly out of my league, who started asking some very searching questions.

I abandoned the bar and made my way back to the hotel via the subway, taxi and on foot, taking the most obscure route I could. All the time experiencing the crushing intimidation that is present when you are aware that you are under surveillance. At the hotel my computer noted 467 attempted incursions at my firewall, it was holding, but only just.

Paranoia took over and I began a search of the room, within minutes I had pulled a Lo Jack from the telephone, the fire detector, my freshly laundered cargo pants and there was a peculiar solid metallic object located behind my right eyelid. I looked through my door peep hole to see a surprisingly burly cleaner polishing repeatedly around my door.

As I turned to the window I caught a red dot traversing across the wall and fall neatly onto my chest, as I dived for cover a round penetrated the window and impacted the wall immediately behind where I had been standing. Glancing at the hole that the round had made I estimated 7.62 mm green spot round, as standard in NATO sniper weapons.

I bolted from the room, I executed a strong side face smash on the burly cleaner and made good my escape via the laundry chute, at the rear of the hotel I mugged a vagrant for his clothes and sprinted for Hells Kitchen as the now be-suited assassins ran down the fire escapes.

I am writing this from a internet cafe in HK, I must keep mobile, these men will stop at nothing. I now fear for my life and my dog is not aswering the phone at home.

Play GTA IV for me guys, maybe they have 360's on the big cloud in the sky.

My god, my credit card has been declined by the teller and there is a tactical team cordoning off the street. I need to move.

Keep the truth alive.

Kind regards,

Deepthroat.




Post 3:
Update 6.1: This is where DeepThroat starts mentioning his Blackberry, he does this repeatedly throughout other posts aswell. Although it's very thin, it could be possible hint that we're finally getting an upgrade from the cellphone we've been using.
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Posted: Mar 11 2007, 21:00

Gents,

I now feel the only others I can trust are the people on this forum. I have moved, I exited the internet cafe through a rear exit, mustering everything I could to kick through the padlocked door as the Rockstar Henchmen piled in the front entry point. Sprinting down 57th Street, across 8th, 7th, 6th and 5th avenue I knew I had to make Grand Central where I keep an emergency identity.

The NYPD have been suspiciously looking the other direction whenever I pass, and the goons in the black Suburban now overtly trail my movements with a nonchalant arrogance as if they know they have me caught.

Fumbling with my keys at the left-luggage storage I grabbed my passport, driving license and enormous false moustache and made for the exit. A dazzling light beamed down on me from a suspiciously silent helicopter and a booming voice with a peculiar eastern European accent barked orders over a loud speaker, insisting that if I surrendered that I would be treated humanely.

I had only one option, I ran hard and fast at the bridge that was 200 meters south of where I was stood, I lept over the wall and braced for impact. As if in slow motion a subway train emerged from the tunnel and I landed centrally with a sickening crunch.

I surfed the train for what felt like an eternity, before leaping off just prior to the Brooklyn Bridge. I am now freezing cold, drenched in sweat and stood around a burning oil drum with Jake and Fred. Fred has only one tooth and claims he is a former Vice President of Tahiti.

Jake is being extremely generous with his moonshine in order that Fred may attempt to remove the object behind my eye with his razor which he insists is only a week old. I am typing this on my Blackberry which, annoyingly, is running low on power.

I will endeavour to contact you soon.

What doesn't kill us..........

Deepthroat.

PS. I will reveal my identity as soon as I am sure there are no Rockstar Moles amongst you.




Post 4:
Update 5: It has been noted on multiple occassions in several threads, that the Blue convertible shown in the trailer very much resembles a Volkswagen Golf. A Blue Volkswagen Golf is mentioned repeatedly in the following post. Make of that what you will. Thanks to forum member TommiHendrix for pointing this out.
Update 5.1: In his post DeepThroat mentions Vladimir, a Russian pilot. This could refer to the Russian Actor Vladimir Mashkov (Behind Enemy Lines, 2 episodes of Alias) who looks very much like the unnamed main character shown in the trailer. This could also confirm the main character's nationality as Russian. Thanks to forum member chrislawrance for pointing this out again.
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Posted: Mar 12 2007, 13:34

Gents,

After a long, cold night under Brooklyn Bridge I awoke to find that Jake and Fred had kindly relieved me of my shoes, and then relieved themselves on me, which possibly explains my dreams of mild Mediterranean waves lapping over my feet as I relax on the beach whilst being fanned by a surgically enhanced French peasant girl.

I snapped awake, alert, ready, and immediately began scanning the area for signs of the pursuing foe, the relentless mob of Rockstar Heavies that sought me high and low. I observed an aircraft in a high altitude holding pattern, whilst it may have been the overnight flight from London; I knew in my heart that it was in fact a Predator Drone laden with sophisticated observation equipment and the odd Hellfire Missile.

I moved to a small alleyway which ran deep into China Town, I observed the movements of the locals, no doubt each of whom was aware that there was a glorious bounty for whoever returned my head to Rockstar HQ. For the first time I realized that Rockstar had influence in every corner of modern life, they had the Police in their pocket and officials in the highest levels of Government.

I waited for a small, inconspicuous vehicle to trundle down the alley, a blue Volkswagen drew level with me and I pounced forward driving my fist through the glass and snatching the keys, I flung open the door and reached inside to haul the driver from the seat. To my utmost embarrassment I was faced with a sweet old lady, but I flung her out anyway, she just went a little further than the average citizen. I jumped into the car and hit the gas, I was shocked as I was pinned to the seat as the car screamed towards 60 MPH in short order, the frisky old bat had tuned the engine to a ridiculas degree.

This did not add up, I pulled down the sun visor and my fears were confirmed, the ID Card bore her picture, the sweet old lady who's hips I had no doubt rendered useless was a Rockstar employee. The rear window smashed and I heard a weapon report behind me. I ducked low, hammered the gas, dropped the gears and the VW Golf struggled for grip and fishtailed towards the bridge.

They were onto me; I knew that the Rockstar Operation Centre would be alive with activity, satellites being re-tasked, radio nets alive with transmissions, tactical teams being scrambled and an army of black suited white males with sunglasses silently sealing off the city. I accelerated over the bridge and breathed a huge sigh of relief as I crested the centre and saw there were no checkpoints and traffic was flowing nicely. My mind wandered to Buster, my faithful mongrel who no longer knocked the handset from the cradle when the phone rang, I knew they had got to him, but I could trust him to say nothing.

I clocked that it was 40 Km to JFK, but I couldn't keep this car, the deceitful granny would have relayed my actions to the lynch mob that was closing in fast. I saw my opportunity, Dunkin Donuts crept into view, and I knew what would be in the car park, a fleet of shiny new Ford Taurus all neatly flying the flag the for the NYPD. I pulled in and acted fast, I jacked the first car in the row, it wasn't tricky and the car started nicely on the hot-wire.

I've had an opportunity to charge my Blackberry, had some day old doughnuts and I'm now sat at the rear of JFK getting ready for my next move, there is an old Cessna parked just across the fence. The Rusky Pilots are indulged in an orgy of vodka and pontoon, I can make out talk of Europe and I can assure you, when they go, I go.

I'm monitoring the police net and they have initiated a State wide red alert for a kidnapped child, they are airing my description on the television and radio at fifteen minute intervals, I have heard on the news that a transvestite I met once has come forward and claimed that I am the father of her child, they are also suggesting that I was responsible for the death of Diana and that I habitually make trips to Iceland to slaughter baby seals, for fun.

They are going after my credibility, guys. They know that credibility is the only currency of any value in this game. They want people to know that I'm lying so that when this gets big nobody will believe me.

Vladimir has just kicked the tire of his plane, which I think qualifies as his pre-flight checks.

I'm making my move; it's too risky to stay in NYC.

Deepthroat.

This post has been edited by deepthroatgta4 on Mar 12 2007, 13:38




Post 5:
Update 6.2 In this post DeepThroat starts mentioning Bogota. He hints at this location repeatedly in the following posts. GTA:Bogota was one of the trademarks Rockstar has registered years ago, and it was also featured on Rockstar merch & schwag besides Tokyo, Paris, NYC and London. This is looking more and more like an international affair by the minute.
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Posted: Mar 14 2007, 11:49


Firstly, let me apologies for the length of time since my last update. My situation becomes more critical by the hour.

Using the radio in the jacked Police car I jumped in on the Air Traffic Control net and denied Vladimir’s request for lift off until they had cleaned up the discarded rubbish which they had left on the edge of the runway. I also, quite childishly, sent a Virgin Atlantic flight full of German tourists to the wrong gate hoping that they would be delayed for at least an hour and that their world renowned sense of humor would be tested.

Sure enough, one of the Rusky aviators was dispatched out of the back of the smoky Cessna to collect the remnants of an afternoon spent drinking their own body weight in finest Siberian Vodka.

I scaled the fence, ran at the Russian lackey and drove my elbow down hard on his shoulder, he crumpled to the ground and I crashed punches onto his head, preying that I could produce enough force to knock him out cold.

He seemed to be out for the count; I stripped him of his flight suit and boots and quickly donned the enormous false moustache I had picked up from Grand Central. The Russian awoke and looked truly shocked as he saw the image of himself standing above him.

I quickly dropped another punch to put him to sleep for another few minutes. I could hear impatient voices emerging from the plane so I quickly moved the limp body of the poor soul who I had just beaten and stripped to behind a small concrete wall and set off running on to the back of the Cessna.

On board the plane I slammed the door shut and looked toward the cockpit, Vladimir craned his head around and looked at me, I gave him the thumbs up, he waved and then turned back to his controls and started taxi-ing down to his designated runway.

I peered out of the windows, checking that I had pulled off my little stunt without alerting the airport authorities. All was looking good; I thought we were clear and then, nightmare.

About 400 meters behind us a black Lincoln with tinted windows power slid onto the taxi way that we were traveling on and accelerated hard in our direction. The Lincoln gained rapidly and pulled up along side. Vladimir spouted Russian obscenities and seemed to insinuate that he was fine to fly and didn’t fell drunk at all. I knew that the intent of those within the Lincoln was far more dubious.

A torso emerged from the sun roof, a tall well built figure clad in black fatigues, a tactical vest, balaclava and insanely large goggles. The sinister figure was reasonably amusing until he leveled a HK MP5 in my direction.

I threw the door open and kicked the side of the weapon hard, I clipped the magazine release catch and watched as the clip tumbled down the road behind us. I then knocked back the cocking handle and ejected the one remaining chambered round, rendering the weapon useless.

The masked assassin threw the weapon into the car; I leaned out of the plane at full stretch and grabbed his pistol from his tac-vest. I lined up the sights of the Glock 17 on my challengers forehead, he looked stunned and slowly raised his hands.

“Tell them that I let you live,”

I hollered above the noise of the Cessna engines.

“They’ll never let you get away,”

He replied.

I paused then emptied the magazine into the engine block and front tire, the Lincoln veered sharply to the left and flipped several times before exploding into a disproportionately large fireball.

I sprinted forward and screamed at Vladimir to lift off; he looked at me with wide eyes and pushed forward on the planes throttle. Seconds later the Cessna picked up speed and creaked and groaned as the wheels left Terra Firma and eased into the hazy New York sky.

I scanned the horizon through the cockpit window whilst Vladimir was making wisecracks about the “Silly Americans” and their stringent drink flying rules.

I felt the pesky object behind my eye and wished I had a way of ridding myself of this Rockstar implanted parasite that relayed my every move to their global command centre.

Vladimir still seemed convinced that I was his engineer, despite the mortal combat that had occurred between the murderous agents and I just feet behind him. I hoped they didn’t have any sort of inappropriate work place relationships occurring on board.

Settling down into the aircraft I checked my Blackberry while we still had signal and noticed that I had an email from an old friend of mine who now worked for the agency. He informed me that the following agencies were on high alert and actively pursuing me – CIA, MI5, MI6, FBI, ATF, DEA, INL, Rockstar, Border Control and, strangely, The Woman’s Auxiliary Balloon Corp.

I managed to get a look at the flight plan, fully expecting a nice Trans-Atlantic flight to Europe. I gazed at the maps and the shipping manifest; we were shipping 3500 dehydrated Haggis to Bogota, Columbia.


I let the information sink in and started running through my contacts in South America, Bogota is a lawless hell hole populated by a combination of Mercs, Spooks, Drug Cartels and corrupt Military and Police, I should be right at home. I was jolted from my day dream by the appearance of something on the horizon, it was something I had seen before, it looked like a pair of angry wasps intent on stinging my nether regions, it was two AH-64 Apache attack helicopters.

Dammit, they closed fast on the decrepit aircraft on which I was travelling, and Vladimir’s pathetic rate of climb kept us within striking distance of the Rockstar death machines manned by vicious soldiers of fortune with the expressed desire of using my nipples as target practice.

The lead helicopter started to strafe the plane with its lethal 30mm Cannon; luckily we were still a sufficient distance away for the fire to be largely inaccurate. I moved to the cockpit and franticly gestured towards the helicopters to Vladimir, he looked startled and asked me to go out back and hide the Vodka.

“Climb you fool,”

I shouted. He pulled back hard on the sticks and the Cessna went into a steep climb and pitched toward the sky. The helicopters gave chase but peeled off at about 16000 feet. Thank God.

The rest of the flight to Bogota was uneventful, I spent the time fashioning a parachute from old socks and shirts that were lying about the back of the plane, I planned a HALO jump into the outskirts of Bogota, lack of oxygen may be a problem but I figure that I’ll make it.

I made the jump with no problems, I have landed in dense primary jungle and I estimate that I am about 15 KM from Bogota. I have established an observation post on a small village which appears to be producing a phenomenal amount of Narcotic.

I have been here for about 24 hours and I am meeting one of my contacts this evening, he’s a ruthless private soldier, I forget who he works for, the highest bidder no doubt. He thinks that he will be able to put some work my way. I’ll have to start at the bottom though.

A Military Patrol passed within 50 Meters of my location earlier, they looked like a regular Columbian army patrol, with one glaring difference, they wore the Blue Rockstar Insignia on their right sleeve.

I am now planning my Agent Contact for tonight. I’m going to have to establish myself here so that I can figure a way out of this mess.

For the time I am safe, I hope the canopy is not allowing my GPS implant to give an accurate fix on my location.

Rockstar are chasing me harder than ever, losing some of their agents at JFK has only motivated them more.

I will keep you updated.

Adios for now.

Deepthroat.




Post 6:
"Secret" Hint: Bold letters throughout the message spell: being coerced nyc it is
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Posted: Mar 25 2007, 14:09

Gents,

At about 1500hrs local time on the 14th March 2007 in Bogota, Columbia, I was apprehended by Rockstar Agencies supported by Columbian Anti Narcotics Police and a Combined Federal Task Force. I was moved to a secure facility located in a disused subway station in New York City and subjected to prolonged interrogation and re-education.

I can now confirm that I do not possess, and have never possessed any information pertaining to the forthcoming game commonly known as Grand Theft Auto IV. The previous posts made by me were the confused ramblings of a paranoid mind and any similarities to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.

Yours Faithfully,

Scott.




Post 7:
"Secret" Hint: Bold letters throughout the message spell: NYC
QUOTE
Posted: Mar 29 2007, 19:27

Guys, Gents, Girls, Lads, Folks,

I just wanted to say that I hope that you get all your dreams, and more with GTA IV.

You are true hardcore fans and your passion is clear for all to see, just by browsing the forums.

I hope that I managed to pass a few moments of time for you in the last few weeks. Thanks for all the kind stuff that was said about the little snippets of a story.

Cheers and best of luck tonight, I'm certainly staying up!!!!

Scotty.

PS. A Rockstar employee who resembles a strategically shaved gorilla stands outside my door 24/7 since I was re-educated!




Post 8:
"Secret" Hint: The first letters of the words in the PS spell: Bogota
QUOTE
Posted: Mar 31 2007, 12:05

Bravo ScottyGTA4,

Not quite how I would've put it, but close.

Gents, I must reiterate that I was thoroughly debriefed by multiple divisions of Rockstar, I have the scars to prove it, and I have no information of any kind relating to the forthcoming game, at this time.

Kind Regards,

Scotty.

PS. Be one great ostrich today, always.




Post 9:
"Secret" Hint: The song referenced is released on Columbia Records. Bogota is the capital city of Columbia.
Update: Forum member Fightforireland has explored the link further and it leads here. Every numbered subdirectory is a different user, so we can assume this is DeepThroat's stuff. Quite an eclectic playlist, which could be a preview of the IV soundtrack.
Update 2: Forum member Truthspitta has also explored the link further and had this to add: "I like the fact that there is a song by a lady called Lorie (Wikipedia). She's been described as the Britney Spears of France. Also, there is a song by a lady named Ayumi Hamasaki (Wikipedia). Both songs are sung in their native language. French and Japanese." Some of the other artists/songs are Spanish.
Update 2.1: Forum member Truthspitta has also uncovered a commercial at the end of the song Nena and Kim Wilde - Anyplace, Anywhere, Anytime. It's for a radio station called Rock Chicks. Listen to a quick sample of it here. There's also a commercial at the end of Ayumi Hamasaki - Carols.
update 2.2: Forum member Suction Testicle man found this link pertaining to Rock Chicks radio: http://web.archive.o...chicksradio.com It seems that it was an online streaming radio station, but has since closed down. For now, i'm not debunking this; The commercials sounded too professional compared to the website; somehow it seems fabricated.
QUOTE
Posted: Mar 31 2007, 14:42

Evening Folks,

I'm just killing time, have you guys heard this tune?

http://www.radioblog.../pod/POD - boom

Cheers,

Scotty.




PM to Forum member Picolini: Posted: Mar 31 2007, 22:40
"Secret" Hint: Bold letters throughout the message spell: You Know
(Possibly hinting that DeepThroatGTA4 is in fact a rockstar employee; Picolini probably asked where he gets his info and why we should believe it. Picolini has refused to tell us what his exact question was.)
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Dear Picolini,
Your inquiry to my source of information and proof of authenticity, while perfectly understandable, I can not answer, as for my safety I must keep it under wraps. Please watch my topic for what is next.

Cheers,

Scotty.




Update 3:
2 New posts. Note: Forum member ScottyGTA4 was impersonating DeepThroatGTA4 postings and writing style, implying that they were working together.

Post 10:
Update 6: It was stupid of me to think there was no hint here. DeepThroat changed up the pattern and hid things in plain sight in a different way. Just read and re-read this sentence: "Whilst hijack may be a new and innovative aspect of game play". That might be some shaky ground Rockstar is treading on. A Forum member has noted that this could pertain to the stealing of identities; Deep Throat does mention a passport in Post 3, which is no doubt fake.
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Posted: Apr 1 2007, 08:59

Gents,

I can state, absolutely, that I am in no way associated with scottygta4. You have my word on that one fact. This is not an "April Fools" as suggested by young Scotty. The information, which I believed at the time, is posted for all to read.

Whilst hijack may be a new and innovative aspect of game play, it is a bit sad on a forum.

At this time I have no information relating to the forthcoming game, for which I apologise.

Cheers,

Scotty.




Post 11:
Update 4:In the original post the word everything was underlined. Forum member CaseLogic points out: "This has double meaning, no doubt. In the latter context, ones 'credibility' could be an important facet of the new game."
QUOTE
Posted: Apr 1 2007, 12:44

Gents,

While some of the posts within this topic are both detrimental to proper discussion and outright annoying, a certain member has served to demonstrate one key point -

Credibility is everything.

Kind Regards,

Scotty.




Update 7:
PM to Forum member ThugLord187: Posted Apr 2 2007, 11:19
Note: No hint discovered here yet. The Echelon station he mentioned is a communications listening post, part of a worldwide network that was started by the English language intelligence services. Read it's wikipedia entry here.
QUOTE
ThugLord,

Thank you for your words of support in this matter, unfortunately I am unable to reveal my sources for they put themselves and their careers in mortal danger by passing me such valuable information.

For the record I am not, and have never been a Rockstar Employee.

I am, however, in mortal danger. My attempts to drip feed information to the forums since my re-education have not gone unnoticed. I have a few close friends in the community keeping their ear to the ground for me, a close acquaintance who works for a Government agency forwarded me the following transcript this morning -

Transcript of telephone conversation intercepted by Echelon Cheltenham Station 011405APR07 –

Two males conversing, first voice Eastern European adult male, geographical location Pristina, Kosovo, second voice American adult male, geographical location Edinburgh, Scotland,

European Male – Yes?

American Male – Our friend is no longer an asset.

EM – He never was.

AM – Never the less, he served his purpose.

EM – He will return to haunt you.

AM – I don’t think so, cancel his ticket.

EM – No problem, my friend, just ensure the fee is correct this time.

AM – You’ll be adequately compensated.

EM – See to it that I am.

Phone call terminates 011406APR07.

I will be keeping a low profile from now on, in fact, I am planning to travel to Northern Tibet, where I plan to live as a goat.

Kind Regards,

Scotty.




Update 8:
PM to Forum member Hwoarang: Posted: Apr 3 2007, 01:40
Note: Nothing much new here, except for the repeating of the telephone transcript.
QUOTE
Thomas,

Thank you for your kind words regarding my earlier posts. Unfortunately
I have been in mortal danger since the whole fiasco began, since my run
in with the Rockstar heavies in the abandoned subway station I have had
to drip feed the inteligence onto the forum to avoid incurring their
wrath once again.

The forum is infact a hotbed of Rockstar spies, informants and casual
observers, I'm sure you bore witness to the campaign to discredit me by
several posters. Ultimately, my position as a forum member has become
untenable, a few friends of mine from the Community have had their ears
to the ground for me, a dear friend from a Government Agency forwarded
me the follwing transcript this morning -

Transcript of telephone conversation intercepted by Echelon, Cheltenham
Station, 011405APR07 –

Two males conversing, first voice Eastern European adult male,
geographical location Pristina, Kosovo, second voice American adult male,
geographical location Edinburgh, Scotland,

European Male – Yes?

American Male – Our friend is no longer an asset.

EM – He never was.

AM – Never the less, he served his purpose.

EM – He will return to haunt you.

AM – I don’t think so, cancel his ticket.

EM – No problem, my friend, just ensure the fee is correct this time.

AM – You’ll be adequately compensated.

EM – See to it that I am.

Phone call terminates 011406APR07.

I will be keeping a low profile for the forseeable future, I plan to
travel to northern Tibet where I intend to live as a goat.

Kind Regards, Thomas, take care,

Scotty.


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Random Notes:

A little history: DeepThroat has made appearances relating to Rockstar on the web before. In the wake of the San Andreas Hot Coffee scandal a Gamespot employee had a conversation over IM with a person named DEEPTHROAT, in which they discuss why/who/what/where of the mod. He's even called "A trusted source". You can read the original gamespot article here: http://www.gamespot....129324&mode=all

QUOTE
RUMOR #2: Rockstar Games deliberately leaked the "Hot Coffee" mod to stir up interest in the PC version of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

Source: See below.

The official story: The only official comment Rockstar has issued on the whole Hot Coffee scandal is its press release lambasting "hackers."

What we heard: Like many companies nowadays, the vast majority of communication in the GameSpot offices is done via instant messenger. It's fast, frees up space in your inbox for all that amazing-investment-opportunity spam, and allows people to divulge things they would never say via the phone or e-mail. That's just what happened this week in an IM conversation with a source with intimate knowledge of Rockstar's marketing department--and apparently some deep suspicions about his or her former or current employer or client. The convo went like this:

DEEPTHROAT: ask the right questions and you uncover the truth
NotTorsRealIM: about the GTA XXX stuff?
DEEPTHROAT: ;-)
NotTorsRealIM: OK deep throat
DEEPTHROAT: hehe
NotTorsRealIM: who would I ask them to?
DEEPTHROAT: i would ask the modder where he got it
NotTorsRealIM: he's not returning e-mails
DEEPTHROAT: i would ask Rockstar if they gave the mod to an interested party as a way to get around the ESRB
NotTorsRealIM: they're not talking either
DEEPTHROAT: for something that was in the game
DEEPTHROAT: its not unlikely that this hot coffee thing
DEEPTHROAT: is merely a marketing ploy
DEEPTHROAT: but I have no proof of that
NotTorsRealIM: wow, this is like X-Files minus the aliens

So was this chat inside info or just speculation from a semi-informed source? Well, we now know that the so-called "Hot Coffee" sex minigame is indeed in the original PlayStation 2 San Andreas source code. However, given the modding community's habit of digging up hidden game files, as well as Rockstar's harsh experience with the Vice City "Kill all the Haitians" controversy, it seems more likely the mod didn't come from them. But if it was an attempt at viral marketing, it certainly garnered a lot of attention...of a grandstanding-politician and gaming industry gadfly.

Bogus or not bogus?: Abstain. A trusted source with no proof does not a conspiracy make.




Origin of the name DeepThroat: From the Wikipedia entry.
It's stating the obvious to say that this kind of humor is right down Rockstar's alley.
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Deep Throat is the pseudonym that was given to William Mark Felt, Sr., who was the second in command for the FBI, the secret source who leaked information about the involvement of U.S. President Richard Nixon's administration in the Watergate first break-in and subsequent events that came to be known as the Watergate scandal. "Deep Throat" was an important source for Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, who together wrote a series of articles on the scandal that played a decisive role in exposing the misdeeds of the Nixon administration. The scandal would eventually lead to the resignation of President Nixon as well as prison terms for White House Chief of Staff H. R. Haldeman, G. Gordon Liddy, chief counsel Charles Colson, and presidential adviser John Ehrlichman.

Howard Simons, the managing editor of the Washington Post at the time, dubbed the secret informant "Deep Throat" as an allusion to the notorious pornographic movie of the same name. The name was also a pun on the journalism term "deep background", referring to information provided by a secret source that, by agreement, will not be reported directly.




Definition of Revelation: From the Wikipedia entry.
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Revelation is an uncovering or disclosure via communication from the divine of something that has been partially or wholly hidden or unknown, "which could not be known apart from the unveiling" (Goswiller 1987 p. 3). In monotheistic religions, revelation is the process, or act of making divine information known. Revelation in a religious sense is that which God, a god, or other supernatural being such as an angel makes known about divine will, principles, laws and doctrines.




That rounds up everything DeepThroatGTA4 has posted on the board, or what is public from PM's. I've added some further exploration where it seemed pertinent.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:20 AM Edited by JCtheMC, 05 April 2007 - 11:50 AM.

UPDATE 9
I just got contacted by a forum member who has only joined up today. After a short pm exchange i received an e-mail with this attachment, a supposed newspaper article. If this is "real", that's the end of info from DeepThroat.

Update 10: This actually ties in with DeepThroat's story. And yes, he is dead (in the story, not IRL you dummy). What we can take from the phone transcript he sent around (see above) we can take that he has been murdered, and the gentlemen conversing on the phone are involved. We're still waiting for new developments on the story, but this could be the end.

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Former Commando Discovered Dead At Home.

Former Royal Marine Scott McWilliams (26) was found dead at his home yesterday in Morningside, Edinburgh. The popular member of the local community and veteran of the Sierra Leone, Afghanistan and Iraq conflicts was found dead by neighbours after his dog “Buster” raised the alarm on Tuesday morning.

County coroner, Jim McDonald, issued a press release early on Tuesday evening,

“The untimely death of Scott McWilliams seems to be the result of a massive heart attack, suffered as he slept.”

Neighbour, Jean Thompson, expressed her grief over the loss of the young man,

“I’d never have expected Scotty to have a heart attack; he was so fit and healthy.”

Scott, who voluntarily discharged from the Royal Marines in August 2006, had recently begun a career as a Security Consultant for a US Security Company and had only just returned from a period at their New York Office.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:21 AM

What is this bullsh*t? notify.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:23 AM

What the hell did Picolini ask?!

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:25 AM Edited by JCtheMC, 01 April 2007 - 04:27 AM.

Edit: Oops, misunderstood you. I'm going to look for that right now smile.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:26 AM

Either this is real (which Im leaning towards), or a very well planned hoax.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:26 AM Edited by *CarBoaster*, 01 April 2007 - 04:48 AM.

This guy has fell off of his rocker and/or is a great story-teller.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:27 AM

picolini won't tell us, which annoys me greatly and makes no sense!

What i want to know is why no one has made a wiki article regarding this tounge2.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:46 AM

I was looking at this link provided by this "mystery" guy:

http://www.radioblog...o... Of Victory

I am guessing it is probably a sample of some of the tracks off the GTA soundtrack. One thing that worries me is about 50% of the songs are French or have French titles, as well as some Spanish ones. I hope this doesn't mean that we will be seeing Paris in GTA IV. You know, Rockstar has not even confirmed NYC or Liberty City to be one of the cities. For all we know, it could be an intro video to the game and not even a city, but I hope this isn't so.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:47 AM

One thing I wish R* would play with is a more interesting narrative style. Rather than the standard GTA3-era single-person rise through crime it'd be interesting to see them play with split narratives (two or more playable characters, running the same mission from different points of view) or perhaps rather than follow a single character maybe have the narrative follow a product. Like say starting in Columbia with cocaine and playing a local there, then the delivery of the product into the United States (including making hand-offs, flying the plane past security forces, etc.), then finally the United States end with the distribution, sales, and defense of the business.

Not saying they'll do this, of course, but it would be interesting to see new approaches to narrative (even a mixed-up narrative like Pulp Fiction or reverse narrative) in games. =)

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:53 AM

bump

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:55 AM

QUOTE (fightforireland @ Apr 1 2007, 15:23)
bump

Please don't bump the topic for no reason, if this topic is anything like the other one it will be bumped 24/7 with replies other then simply "bump"!

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:58 AM

Please keep watching the top 2 posts for updates, i'm going to update them whenever one of you uncovers something, or when He posts. Thank You Fightforireland, your exploration has been added smile.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 04:58 AM

Somebody fill me in, are all the posts that end with 'scotty' made by deepthroat, or by another account?


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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:00 AM

I'm only adding the posts by DeepThroatGTA4, as i'm assuming ScottyGTA4 is a fake. If he's not, he can get his own darn topic. wink.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:01 AM

That was a fast update about the soundtrack on the first post.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:01 AM

Thank you, I wasnt sure if those were made by scottygta4 or not.

This is pretty radddd.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:02 AM

I don't get why some people think this is fake. Were you not there at the time of his postings? Even if you missed it, just check the date DeepthroatGTA made the postings and also take into consideration that none were edited.

Like its been said many times before, Rockstar is probably experimenting some kind of Viral Campaign.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:07 AM

These are all lies, he has too much time on his hands, yet a very creative imagination.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:09 AM

How can you put so much belief to something so impossible.
Obviously this person has too much time on their hands.
Anyone falling for this should GetaLife.
Xanthopsia must be effecting your vision.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:10 AM Edited by UnitedDestruction, 01 April 2007 - 05:20 AM.

QUOTE (NiklasGrand @ Mar 31 2007, 23:02)
Like its been said many times before, Rockstar is probably experimenting some kind of Viral Campaign.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. I figured Rockstar had either hired a writer or done this themselves as some sort of viral campaign hype machine. Just to hype us up and reveal the location before trailer release. This "deepthroat" may continue posting every once in a while, possibly dropping more hints about different aspects of the game, maybe there is a Bogota in GTA4 after all lol. As for me, I am going to take everything he says into consideration and speculate like hell. Itd be much appreciated for anyone to draw attention to his posts (at least until the search engine is working).

Another thing that reinforces my suspicion is, like fightforireland said, the way he posted that link to that song, and how it may be part of the new sound track. Even if deepthroat is just a fan, this is pretty interesting.

Obviously, the story itself is not true, but i think there are subtle hints being dropped (like the skyline in the IV logo), especially with what seem to be references to the GTA series itself (he mentions the disproportional explosion when the car explodes lol). Also, he refers to his nipples as targets, which has Rockstar written all over it imo

edit: Just thought I'd mention this is probably where Jack Thompson got his little "Corporate Conspiracy" idea from lol. Maybe rockstars hype machine backfired? Or worked, if their intention was to finally rid themselves of Jack Thompson. Maybe it really is a Corporate Conspiracy? dun dun dun...

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:11 AM Edited by dakin2008, 01 April 2007 - 05:13 AM.

sounds like a buch of bullsh*t to me! The first posts was semi believable but the others...... well they are not so. So i dont bealiave it. Oh yea and this dude that said he was posting on the deepthroat is probaly the same fan as deep throat just keeping his topics alive.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:13 AM

This Is Gold....R* Employee Or Not, This Guy Can Tell A Story....If Hes Not Hinting Things I Dont Mind biggrin.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:14 AM

He posts 7 times in a 3 week span before the trailer. He mentions NYC once explicitly, and twice in code. That just sparks interest. He just seems too persistent to be ignored. And his writing is the same. That could definitely hint at someone with too much time on their hands, or some evil government conspiracy. I'll go for the latter because it makes for better entertainment.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 05:36 AM

has anyone here thought that maybe gta IV will include all of the presupposed areas?

being liberty city, vice city, san andreas, london, bogota.

considering theyre working with a different engine that may (or may not) take up as many gigs as before, and now theyre working with dvd discs that are dual layered?

the possibilities are really endless right now.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:34 AM

QUOTE (fatcow2000 @ Apr 1 2007, 05:36)
has anyone here thought that maybe gta IV will include all of the presupposed areas?

being liberty city, vice city, san andreas, london, bogota.

considering theyre working with a different engine that may (or may not) take up as many gigs as before, and now theyre working with dvd discs that are dual layered?

the possibilities are really endless right now.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:37 AM

Hello all.
I just found this bit on Deepthroatgta4 a second ago. The fellow is quckly become a legend.
Deepthroatgta4

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:42 AM

This was already posted.

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:55 AM

Like I said in the original thread, I feel like a f*cking genius on this forum due to the fact many of you didn't know the origin of the name Deepthroat. Sigh. sarcasm.gif

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Posted 01 April 2007 - 06:58 AM

Someone should make you eat little sh*tty pieces of toilet paper.




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