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Posted 15 December 2007 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (fishermanGTA @ Dec 15 2007, 22:18)
QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Dec 15 2007, 19:17)
just out of interest have any of you guys tried e-mailing rockstar and seeing if they could send you a map now this close to release?

I don't see them doing that unfortunately.
They are keeping everything as tight as they can.

As for this thread, great job guys! I wish I was smarter like that but I have
the coordination of a drunk fish on land.

yeah but im sure theres no harm in trying is there?

i would do it for you guys but for some reason evertime i send an e-mail to them it gets rejected so i gave up in the end, i think it may have something to do with me sending them stupid job applications to be a tea boy.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Dec 15 2007, 22:56)
QUOTE (fishermanGTA @ Dec 15 2007, 22:18)
QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Dec 15 2007, 19:17)
just out of interest have any of you guys tried e-mailing rockstar and seeing if they could send you a map now this close to release?

I don't see them doing that unfortunately.
They are keeping everything as tight as they can.

As for this thread, great job guys! I wish I was smarter like that but I have
the coordination of a drunk fish on land.

yeah but im sure theres no harm in trying is there?

i would do it for you guys but for some reason evertime i send an e-mail to them it gets rejected so i gave up in the end, i think it may have something to do with me sending them stupid job applications to be a tea boy.

what is there email anyway?

im just about to post the updated line map guys only be two mins...

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 12:18 AM Edited by Timmons55, 16 December 2007 - 12:48 AM.

ok here is the updated Line Map :

user posted image

Ok some roads have been deleted due to their inaccuracies, some buildings pointed out have not been put down yet because i do not have enough information from the screen-shots to pinpoint their location and some buildings still are nameless...

however a number of buildings have been added and a number of buildings have been added, the coastline at the World Financial district has also been added and a number of buildings have been moved to positions that seem more accurate. smile.gif

the list has came out too small so here it is

U/B = unknown building

1 Chrysler building
2 Conde Nast Building
3 Astor Plaza
4 ABC studios TS
5 Paramount building
6 marriot building
7 U/B
8 U/B
9 U/B
10 Helmsley Building
11 Metlife(Getalife)
12 Times Square Tower
13 Empire State Building
14 Ernst & Young
15 Flatiron Building
16 U/B
17 U/B
18 Morgan Stanley Building
19 Times Square North
20 Trump Building
21 The Crowne Plaza
22 Doubletree Guest Suits
23 Bertelsmann Building
24 Radio city Music Hall
25 Rockefeller center
26 U/B
27 U/B
28 One Times Square
29 LCPD times square
30 Gershwin Apartments
31 Hearst Tower
32 One Financial Square
33 U/B
34 U/B
35 One New York Plaza
36 South Street Seaport
37 Brooklyn Bridge
38 First Precinct NYPD
39 Federal Reserve Bank Of NY
40 Whitehall Building
41 A Hamilton US cusoms house
42 World Financial Center
43 Woolworth Building
44 Municipal Building
45 Trump International tower
46 Time Warner Center
47 Reuters American HQ
48 a theater?
49 U/B
50 U/B
51 U/B
52 U/B
53 U/B
54 U/B

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 05:54 AM

this is going to be so scope-e, if thats the correct word.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 06:41 AM

Oh man, I forgot this topic was up, but you guys have been on it. I love the line map, and it looks pretty good. I wish I was that good at laying things out like that. Keep up the work. colgate.gif

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 09:46 AM

yea, ill need some help with naming buildings and other building spots. smile.gif

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 01:31 PM

QUOTE (Timmons55 @ Dec 16 2007, 09:46)
yea, ill need some help with naming buildings and other building spots. smile.gif

I could help with that. what buildings are you not sure about.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 06:11 PM

QUOTE (Darrel @ Dec 16 2007, 13:31)
QUOTE (Timmons55 @ Dec 16 2007, 09:46)
yea, ill need some help with naming buildings and other building spots. smile.gif

I could help with that. what buildings are you not sure about.

the ones on the list that are put as unknown(U/B) smile.gif

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Timmons55 @ Dec 16 2007, 01:18)
ok here is the updated Line Map :

[IMG]http://img180.images.../linemapnm2.png[/IG]

Ok some roads have been deleted due to their inaccuracies, some buildings pointed out have not been put down yet because i do not have enough information from the screen-shots to pinpoint their location and some buildings still are nameless...

however a number of buildings have been added and a number of buildings have been added, the coastline at the World Financial district has also been added and a number of buildings have been moved to positions that seem more accurate. smile.gif

the list has came out too small so here it is

U/B = unknown building

1 Chrysler building
2 Conde Nast Building
3 Astor Plaza
4 ABC studios TS
5 Paramount building
6 marriot building
7 U/B
8 U/B
9 U/B
10 Helmsley Building
11 Metlife(Getalife)
12 Times Square Tower
13 Empire State Building
14 Ernst & Young
15 Flatiron Building
16 U/B
17 U/B
18 Morgan Stanley Building
19 Times Square North
20 Trump Building
21 The Crowne Plaza
22 Doubletree Guest Suits
23 Bertelsmann Building
24 Radio city Music Hall
25 Rockefeller center
26 U/B
27 U/B
28 One Times Square
29 LCPD times square
30 Gershwin Apartments
31 Hearst Tower
32 One Financial Square
33 U/B
34 U/B
35 One New York Plaza
36 South Street Seaport
37 Brooklyn Bridge
38 First Precinct NYPD
39 Federal Reserve Bank Of NY
40 Whitehall Building
41 A Hamilton US cusoms house
42 World Financial Center
43 Woolworth Building
44 Municipal Building
45 Trump International tower
46 Time Warner Center
47 Reuters American HQ
48 a theater?
49 U/B
50 U/B
51 U/B
52 U/B
53 U/B
54 U/B

wow thats expanded a bit since i last saw it.

and i cant remeber off the top of my head what there e-mail is, check out the rockstar north site.

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:13 PM

okay... and yeah i have added quite a bit to it smile.gif

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE (Timmons55 @ Dec 17 2007, 00:13)
okay... and yeah i have added quite a bit to it smile.gif

i wish i could help but i wouldnt know where to start, youve done a great job so far and everyone else who was involved in gathering infomation.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 08:18 AM

Sorry to stretch the page and I don't have a time to the further description, cause I should be on the lesson now and my internet's f*cked up at home, so I'm basicly offline. But I did this yesterday so here it comes...


user posted image
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Posted 17 December 2007 - 12:55 PM

Here is something I have been working on: http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html (click on the red icons)

It is based on the map made by AleX AciD. The scale isn't entirely accurate, and the shape of the land should be different also, which means the distance between some objects is slightly bigger than it should be. I might have a go at fixing that later.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE (adamcs @ Dec 17 2007, 07:55)
Here is something I have been working on: http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html (click on the red icons)

That's sick. Now hurry up and get the rest of Liberty mapped, you only have a couple months!

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 02:15 PM

QUOTE (geomy @ Dec 17 2007, 15:06)
QUOTE (adamcs @ Dec 17 2007, 07:55)
Here is something I have been working on: http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html (click on the red icons)

That's sick. Now hurry up and get the rest of Liberty mapped, you only have a couple months!

lol i like people with a good sense of humor

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 04:04 PM

QUOTE (rasomaso @ Dec 17 2007, 08:18)
Sorry to stretch the page and I don't have a time to the further description, cause I should be on the lesson now and my internet's f*cked up at home, so I'm basicly offline. But I did this yesterday so here it comes...


http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewA.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewB.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewC.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewD.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewE.jpg

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thats fantastic man i can actually see a few more buildings i can plot, good job...

adamcs thanks for that map with the views it is helping my co-ordination a great deal...

good job guys icon14.gif ill get some more work done on the map smile.gif

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 05:12 PM

ok thanks to adamcs' work the first map update will be to the broker map:

user posted image

i have changed some areas of roads you put down to areas that i think are more accuarate smile.gif and i have added in the buildings in the areas you can see in the pictures, in the areas, on the map you made adamcs smile.gif

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (adamcs @ Dec 17 2007, 14:55)
Here is something I have been working on: http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html (click on the red icons)

It is based on the map made by AleX AciD. The scale isn't entirely accurate, and the shape of the land should be different also, which means the distance between some objects is slightly bigger than it should be. I might have a go at fixing that later.

Great Work adam..

Although the position of this screen should be more to the south, almost on the next intersection. The binco on the left borders the intersection.

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 11:52 PM

Oops, you're right. That means I'll have to change a few of the others aswell. Fixing now...

[edit] oh wait, no it doesn't. It's fine now I think.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:59 AM

QUOTE (rasomaso @ Dec 17 2007, 08:18)
Sorry to stretch the page and I don't have a time to the further description, cause I should be on the lesson now and my internet's f*cked up at home, so I'm basicly offline. But I did this yesterday so here it comes...


http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewA.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewB.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewC.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewD.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewE.jpg
ph34r.gif   devil.gif

Hey man, great job with these! I have an alternate theory about that lighthouse however. Going strictly from things I see in the real New York, the lighthouse in the first shot is not a part of Broker (Brooklyn) but rather modelled after the lighthouse at the northern edge of Roosevelt Island (a small island in the east river situated in between Manhattan and Queens). The real life lighthouse is approximately adjacent to the UN Headquarters (Building XYZ) as well.

http://www.lighthous.../photos/778.jpg

I also like my theory because it shows that R* has taken the effort to portray even the more obscure islands and areas throughout the city. It would also prove that R* has combined properties of the Williamsburg and Queensborough bridge to create a single bridge in Liberty City - Bridge 2's towers are modelled after the Williamsburg Bridge, however it's geographical location relative to Algonquin, the Suspended Air Tram, and it's proximity to Roosevelt Island are elements taken from the Queensborough Bridge.

So yeah... I don't think that Lighthouse is part of Broker.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (jimmyjojo @ Dec 18 2007, 05:59)
QUOTE (rasomaso @ Dec 17 2007, 08:18)
Sorry to stretch the page and I don't have a time to the further description, cause I should be on the lesson now and my internet's f*cked up at home, so I'm basicly offline. But I did this yesterday so here it comes...


http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewA.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewB.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewC.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewD.jpg
http://i197.photobuc...omaso/viewE.jpg
ph34r.gif   devil.gif

Hey man, great job with these! I have an alternate theory about that lighthouse however. Going strictly from things I see in the real New York, the lighthouse in the first shot is not a part of Broker (Brooklyn) but rather modelled after the lighthouse at the northern edge of Roosevelt Island (a small island in the east river situated in between Manhattan and Queens). The real life lighthouse is approximately adjacent to the UN Headquarters (Building XYZ) as well.

http://www.lighthous.../photos/778.jpg

I also like my theory because it shows that R* has taken the effort to portray even the more obscure islands and areas throughout the city. It would also prove that R* has combined properties of the Williamsburg and Queensborough bridge to create a single bridge in Liberty City - Bridge 2's towers are modelled after the Williamsburg Bridge, however it's geographical location relative to Algonquin, the Suspended Air Tram, and it's proximity to Roosevelt Island are elements taken from the Queensborough Bridge.

So yeah... I don't think that Lighthouse is part of Broker.

Looking at your photo and the shot I must say that is definitely the lighthouse. Nice one

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 10:56 AM

This city looks HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 04:02 PM

QUOTE (ceedot @ Dec 18 2007, 10:56)
This city looks HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!

lol yea and i still got a lot to do smile.gif

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (adamcs @ Dec 17 2007, 12:55)
Here is something I have been working on: http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html (click on the red icons)

It is based on the map made by AleX AciD.  The scale isn't entirely accurate, and the shape of the land should be different also, which means the distance between some objects is slightly bigger than it should be.  I might have a go at fixing that later.

very nice map. I hope in the actual game that brokers a bit bigger.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:06 PM

QUOTE (ceedot @ Dec 18 2007, 10:56)
This city looks HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 09:44 PM

Right, I've updated my map:

http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html

The scale on the old map was horribly wrong, now it is much more accurate. I've also managed to determine the shape of the land. This map still isn't *entirely* accurate, but it's a lot more accurate than the old one. And don't forget, this is only a small area of Broker. smile.gif

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (adamcs @ Dec 19 2007, 21:44)
Right, I've updated my map:

http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html

The scale on the old map was horribly wrong, now it is much more accurate. I've also managed to determine the shape of the land. This map still isn't *entirely* accurate, but it's a lot more accurate than the old one. And don't forget, this is only a small area of Broker. smile.gif

Brilliant work there.

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:18 PM Edited by Timmons55, 19 December 2007 - 11:23 PM.

QUOTE (adamcs @ Dec 19 2007, 21:44)
Right, I've updated my map:

http://media.gtanet....les/broker.html

The scale on the old map was horribly wrong, now it is much more accurate.  I've also managed to determine the shape of the land.  This map still isn't *entirely* accurate, but it's a lot more accurate than the old one.  And don't forget, this is only a small area of Broker. smile.gif

superb adamcs icon14.gif the mape looks great however the bridge is coming in at too much of an angle....i agree it comes in at an angle but thats too much towards the grass area whereas in the pictures from the grass area the bridge is away to the right but overall great work dude icon14.gif

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 02:48 AM

Hmm, you're right. I think part of the problem (also) is that the screenshot is taken at an angle. I'll fix that now.

[Edit] This is the new link: http://www.gta4.net/setting/broker.php

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:04 AM Edited by willgtavcs, 20 December 2007 - 03:09 AM.

i think broker is going to be a little bit bigger hopful the size of portland and staunton island put together




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