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#391

Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:31 PM

The bridge that lies behind Niko IS the Brooklyn Bridge. A bridge that goes up must come down low as well and strings that rise above the bridge have to end somewhere right? sarcasm.gif

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#392

Posted 10 May 2007 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE (AleX AciD @ May 7 2007, 03:10)

"Port" area:
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"Cherkov" building area:
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Ok one more time. Try to keep up ok?? smile.gif

Look at the "port area" pic, you can see that the bridge goes on for quite some time after the buildins, straight and level and higher that those buildings. Also, there's nothing solid underneath the bridge. See .. nothing.. x)

And then the Cherkov-building pics..
First we see Niko, behind him, a little bit higher than the smaller building next to Cherkov. Too low for the bridge.
oh and you can see, that it's not hanging in the air, but it's solid, like elevated rails..

C'mon, they guy has done great work mapping, but still this one pic just does not add up.

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#393

Posted 10 May 2007 - 05:07 PM

No-one has yet figured out where the old sugar factory lies, right?

Good work, guys.

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Posted 10 May 2007 - 05:42 PM

Okay, lets see here.

http://www.paeron.co...opm06numov4.jpg
In this image i have marked the pylon for the Broker Bridge in blue and the side of building 46.

http://www.paeron.co...opm13numwn4.jpg
I did the same in this picture. I also marked the sign structure and a black loadingbay door on the Cherkov building in green.

http://www.paeron.co...opm09numfc3.jpg
No you can see that here you see the same shape of the sign stucture and also the black door marked in green.
You can se that I have marked the shape above building 46 with blue lines since I think that is the Pylon, they have just cut the top of it biggrin.gif
So how can the bridge look so low? Well, I've marked a shape at Niko's right shoulder with red that I think is another building. So we do not see the bridge actualy touch the ground since that building, building 46 and our hero Niko is blocking everything beneath it. So what you see is a bridge that looks lower, but it infact further away, thus making it higher than it appears, and bigger.

I also added black lines to show where the cables would be, just for fun. biggrin.gif

I hope my insane ramblings are understandable. tounge.gif

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 05:15 AM

QUOTE (Paeron @ May 10 2007, 17:42)
Okay, lets see here.

http://www.paeron.co...opm06numov4.jpg
In this image i have marked the pylon for the Broker Bridge in blue and the side of building 46.

http://www.paeron.co...opm09numfc3.jpg
So what you see is a bridge that looks lower, but it infact further away, thus making it higher than it appears, and bigger.

You are making sense, actually so much that I almost doubted myself. wink.gif

But as we can see (in the first pic with the train) the pylons are right next to the building 46.
Thus the bridge can't be that much further and that leaves us two options:

1) that they are not at the same location
2) they have some weird perspective problems.

And I will be the first to admit that I was wrong if that's the case, but so far I'm not convinced. wink.gif

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#396

Posted 11 May 2007 - 07:14 AM Edited by geomy, 11 May 2007 - 07:16 AM.

Look how far into the channel the pylon is at the opposite side of the channel. I think the perspective makes it look closer than it is on the near side, but I also think you are on the right track. The reason the bridge isn't in the last shot is because it is way off to the right, in the channel.

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 03:32 PM Edited by YukiEiri, 11 May 2007 - 03:35 PM.

Ok I will now officially give up, since you are so convinced that you are right. smile.gif
There is no point continue the argument. smile.gif We will see who was right when we get our hands on the game. wink.gif

But I must point out one last thing of the pylons, on the other side, the pylon is on the water yes, but on this shore it obviously is not, like it is not on the real bridge.

And Paeron: the "building" that you suspected the lighter part next to Niko's sholder to be. Did you notice that the lines match to the el-train/bridge, not to the roof line to the next building so it can't be another buildin but it is a part of the "bridge" thingie. smile.gif

EDIT: And I must point this out. There are exactly similar triangelish thingies sticking out of the facade of the Cherkov bulding and the building shown on the other pic. And that is a detail that makes me doubt my own opinion, but since I am convinced that the Nico-pic is from somewhere else, I will keep my head about that and blame R* for generic building design. wink.gif

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Posted 24 May 2007 - 07:28 PM

Now that the high-res screens (+ the 4 new once) have come I think it is safe to say that he was right. Now let us tear the new pix apart and move on in happiness. biggrin.gif

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#399

Posted 25 May 2007 - 10:18 AM

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I believe this is representative of Brighton Beach in Brooklyn. Perhaps under the Q and B train.
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He probably got it when he was young.
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This is probably the area of which the first few missions take place and is also probably your first safe house.
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Seriously, is it that frikkin cold?
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There's wipers on the train. Will the wipers for cars work when it rains in Liberty City? Hmm...
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No mirrors in screens and yet in the trailer you can see someone adjusting their rear view mirror in the car.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:08 AM

Nothing major, just noticed the name of the pharmacy in one of the recent official screenshots:

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Carney Island = Coney Island

Carnies, for those who don't know, are circus folk: a seedy sort of people, I wouldn't trust them, nor would I talk to them for longer than 30 seconds (they smell funky). Coney is the famous amusement park nestled on the southern tip of Brooklyn, New York City.



If I offended anyone with the carney comments, good. Tell them to take a bath, please.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:26 AM

right this is all good work but now can someone post a map of the area and scale then

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:16 AM

"Industrial area" map, v2:
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numbers:
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Digital screenshot gives us "bridge problem" solution:
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(I made image darker, so you can see better - it's photoshop'ed) colgate.gif

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 06:55 AM

Hi folks. I think I have spotted where his area is located smile.gif

http://img02.picoodl...l1m_8b61b56.jpg

As you can see I have marked the chimney and the two almost identical highrises with A and B

Now look here. I have marked what I think is the chimney and two highrises in the far distance:

http://img03.picoodl...l2m_9a91f68.jpg

Also I'm not sure that everyone has noticed that A B C in this pic
http://img02.picoodl...l3m_0cee3ab.jpg

is the same place as this:

http://img02.picoodl...l4m_0515e3d.jpg

Hope I contributed somewhat to this topic with that analysis.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 07:46 AM

woow, do you see how the graphics improved, this image frome the trailer and this new one, look how textures are better... what will it become till october... smile.gif

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:08 PM

Any comments on my "find"? I think I managed to track down the location of those buildings yet to be set in place.
We have a pretty big area covered around the bridge on that side now.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:29 PM

yer you guys are crazy lol good work id laugh if use worked out the hole map before the relese lol but yer the only thing map wise is not to turn out like gta 3 were the 2nd island was only like 3 roads wide lol but yer awesome job guys

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#407

Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:32 PM

WHY WASTE TIME DOING THIS THE MAP WILL COME OUT WHEN THE GAME IS RELEASED
DO SOMTHING ELSE WITH YOUR TIME.!.
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#408

Posted 27 May 2007 - 12:55 PM

Why bother commenting then. This topic has 52,096 views. Most on the front page at the moment by far.
If you don't like it go somewhere else lol.

I and many others find this thread interesting. We like putting pieces together.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (RoundTrip @ May 27 2007, 06:55)

Also I'm not sure that everyone has noticed that A B C in this pic
http://img02.picoodl...l3m_0cee3ab.jpg

is the same place as this:

http://img02.picoodl...l4m_0515e3d.jpg

Hope I contributed somewhat to this topic with that analysis.

everything looks the same in these two pics but the size of the two trees

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:42 PM

It is the same place definetly, but I think they may have touched up on the trees yes.
They have polished the textures quite alot too.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 05:24 PM

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and the lampost and fire hydrant are in the same palce two.
its prety amzing the way its changed. inlove.gif happy.gif

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 09:01 PM

1. Read this post again! anuj_cop.gif

2. A and B is a same building (on screenshot with numbers).

3. Screenshot with garbage (from trailer) is latest - they added garbage, not removed it.

4. I'm not going to create whole GTA4 map, because R* will not show whole city in screenshots, trailers, etc. wink.gif

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:24 PM

QUOTE (AleX AciD @ May 27 2007, 21:01)
1. Read this post again!  anuj_cop.gif

2. A and B is a same building (on screenshot with numbers).

3. Screenshot with garbage (from trailer) is latest - they added garbage, not removed it.

4. I'm not going to create whole GTA4 map, because R* will not show whole city in screenshots, trailers, etc. wink.gif

Hmm Not sure what you mean at all.

I pointed out where those buildings were on the map of the train on the rails above the harbour.
At least where I think I spotted the two A and B.
The chimney(A) and the highrise buildings(B).

Do you agree or disagree that those objects are correctly placed?

I will repost here:

I think I have spotted where his area is located smile.

http://img02.picoodl...l1m_8b61b56.jpg

As you can see I have marked the chimney and the two almost identical highrises with A and B

Now look here. I have marked what I think is the chimney and two highrises in the far distance:

http://img03.picoodl...l2m_9a91f68.jpg

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:33 PM

something is missing, i still agree its the same spot though. (maybe they
added that after. look here

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE (california @ May 27 2007, 23:33)
something is missing, i still agree its the same spot though. (maybe they
added that after. look here

To be honest I'm glad that 'big blur' has gone, it looked so out of place.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:41 PM Edited by RoundTrip, 27 May 2007 - 10:43 PM.

I think the plate was just added there too show the cars suspension and sound effect as it passed over for the trailers sake.

One more evidence that I'm placing the building and chimney at the correct site in the overview picture with the train.
Look on the overview picture. The tracks seems to head straight for the building with the chimney (A)
The rail should be close by in other words. If you look at the comparison shots of the same place, in the shot where you see the alleyway,
you also see the rail going by in the left side of the picture. I am 100% certain I have the right place now..

Give us some more pictures Rockstar! tounge.gif

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:46 PM

is this the same place,too.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:46 PM

QUOTE (RoundTrip @ May 27 2007, 17:24)
Now look here. I have marked what I think is the chimney and two highrises in the far distance:

I think the "chimney" you have marked as A is actually another train. Though, if it is like you say, it's not a chimney, but a water tower as seen in this pic over Niko's shoulder.

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Posted 28 May 2007 - 08:02 PM

I missed out on a lot lately but none the less great work everyone. cool.gif

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Posted 28 May 2007 - 09:28 PM

There's also gonna be a beach. Since I dunno how 2 put pics in, look at the pic of Niko when he walking under the train tracks (the last in the bottom row in the News section). Look at the beam going horizontaly. Look close enough, you'll spot a wire-thin sign saying something Beach, then something under it. Sorry if this is the wrong topic, but it adds to LC. I just think its wierd, since there's no beaches in NYC... oh well. Shifty41s_beerhatsmilie2.gif lol.gif




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