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Posted 25 July 2008 - 02:31 PM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 25 July 2008 - 03:35 PM.

QUOTE (Caixa @ Jul 25 2008, 12:12)
Yes, I know the moviment is from atm machines, have most of this locals in game??What about...a bottle?With an epsilon?Have one of this in the bar next to CJ house?I will check.

err... no.

you cant buy drinks in any bar.
its just that the Rockstar staff member who
made the epsilon site was most likely drinking that
wine and saw the logo and thought "whattehelll ill uuuse thhhiss.."

i mean what are the odds of the El Tiempo being a clue?


I found that bottle by an accident... (a huuuge WTF moment)
so if it would be a clue and i would have not found that
none of you would know about the bottle and therefore
making it impossible to solve this.

get it?


anyway.. heres a pic of the bottle cap. (insert wow.gif GASP wow.gif here)
user posted image

and the whole bottle showing the bull. (more GASPS)
user posted image

SORRY!!! I KNOW THEYRE WAY TOO BIG blush.gif

also..

i listened every line from the epsilon ped and this is what i got:

if you bumb into him he will say these following lines:
-mind out
-kifflom
-look out brother-uncle
-are you looking for spirirual answers?
-do you need spiritual guidance?
-can i intrest you into some religion?
-carefull
-carefull brother-uncle

then i recruited him with the recruit anyone cheat, used reduced traffic cheat so that
i would only hear HIS lines and the faster gameplay cheat twice so that i wouldnt have to
wait so long. and no he does not become a chipmunk. even thoungh the game is faster everyone talks in the
normal speed. so these are the lines that he said:

-kifflom and krant, sir!
-kifflom brother-uncle
-kifflom be praised

then i .. err "unrecruited" him and then just followed him and listened what he said:

-the epsilon program is a great way to live.
-partner sharing is an intruble (←possibly not the right way to spell it)
part of chriss vision
-the world is beautifull and so new
-before i read the trackt i was lost
-i havent spoken to my parents since i joined the fellowship
-have you ever seen a sperm? its a lie
-i lie with 9 of my sister-aunts every week
-dinosaurs are a lie.. fact!
-chris formage saved my life

then i knowdessed that when i killed someone, the epsilon ped ran to the dead body and
said something. so a killed alot of people and listened what he had to say:

-ohh dear kifflom!
-they should have read the epsilon trackt
-epsilonism doesnt allow this
-kifflom no!
-please no! ←that one may have been smeone else. not sure

so.. heres another essay biggrin.gif

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:34 PM Edited by Caixa, 25 July 2008 - 03:39 PM.

What a fuc* you posted a fu**ing great image, dozingoff.gif
Oh, I've heard about this bottle... cookie.gif cookie.gif for you.

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Yeah, I recruit a member with the cheat, I listen some of this lines.

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:39 PM

QUOTE (Caixa @ Jul 25 2008, 15:34)
What a fuc* you posted a fu**ing great image,  dozingoff.gif
Oh, I've hearde about this bottle... cookie.gif   cookie.gif for you.

yummy!

no wait! was that sarcasm!? mad.gif

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 03:45 PM

No, I just say thats cool the image, I never see the bottle.You make a great discovery, cookie.gif cookie.gif are congratulations... I am hungry, not thinking right, my english are bad

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Posted 25 July 2008 - 04:06 PM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 25 July 2008 - 06:03 PM.

ok.

and now i made myself my very first signarure of it

BTW.. i just realised that the last 8 posts have been made by you and me.
lets wait a day and listen to what the others have to say about my pic ph34r.gif

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (DaSanAnThug @ Jul 24 2008, 13:41)


EDIT: Ohh! now i know what place you meant scary man. isnt it the one that has a sanchez
spawning in the yard of a house right next to the one you ment?

Yes that is exactly where i'm talking about. And the marker is there. It's very faint so it's easy to miss but look right where the sadler spawns on the in game map. You should see a pale white "spot". LOOK CLOSELY and you'll see it. It's completely unique, there aren't any other markers like it.






And also in regards to the bull logo, it looks just like the two on top of the restaurants that i mentioned in my earlier post.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 03:44 AM

QUOTE (Scary Man @ Jul 23 2008, 12:00)
QUOTE (Caixa @ Jul 22 2008, 19:07)
Hey, I found a Red Sadler without damage in the mission Are you going to San Fierro? Next to Truth
Farm...red truck!


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Hey I found the location called Fallen Tree...what about this place  and the houses near of it?

If You look closely on the map right were the windmill is there's a marker on the side of the road. It's the only one like it in the game and also a sadler spawns there.

Damn ! Can't find the Marker.
Is that place is on the Farm on Mission "Body harvest" ?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 10:31 AM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 26 July 2008 - 06:04 PM.

QUOTE (DaSanAnThug @ Jul 25 2008, 08:07)
scary dude. i went there. no markers

and the bull doesnt look like the one in the desert.
the steak house bull is brown and fat.
the bottle bullis black and not fat

EDIT:
i dont think this is a clue but you do so
lets try if we cann make anything out of this.
so i tried to get some anagrams out of el tiempo...
I GOT 142!!! just googled anagram and clicked the first and tried. results:

Elite Mop
Omelet Pi
Peel Omit
Emote Lip
Lei Tempo
Lie Tempo
Mile Poet
Lime Poet
Impel Toe
Polite Em
Polite Me
Pile Mote
Pile Tome
Lite Poem
Lite Mope
Tile Poem
Tile Mope
Tempi Ole
Emit Lope
Emit Pole
Time Lope
Time Pole
Item Lope
Item Pole
Mite Lope
Mite Pole
Pie Motel
Eel Mi Opt
Eel Mi Pot
Eel Mi Top
Eel Imp To
Eel Pi Mot
Eel Pi Tom
Eel Pit Om
Eel Tip Om
Eel It Mop
Eel Ti Mop
Lee Mi Opt
Lee Mi Pot
Lee Mi Top
Lee Imp To
Lee Pi Mot
Lee Pi Tom
Lee Pit Om
Lee Tip Om
Lee It Mop
Lee Ti Mop
Peel I Mot
Peel I Tom
Peel Mi To
Peel It Om
Peel Ti Om
Teem I Pol
Teem I Lop
Teem Pi Lo
Meet I Pol
Meet I Lop
Meet Pi Lo
Mete I Pol
Mete I Lop
Mete Pi Lo
Pee I Molt
Pee Mil To
Pee Lit Om
Pee Mi Lot
Tee Mil Op
Tee Lip Om
Tee Mi Pol
Tee Mi Lop
Tee Imp Lo
Lei Em Opt
Lei Em Pot
Lei Em Top
Lei Me Opt
Lei Me Pot
Lei Me Top
Lei Met Op
Lei Pet Om
Lie Em Opt
Lie Em Pot
Lie Em Top
Lie Me Opt
Lie Me Pot
Lie Me Top
Lie Met Op
Lie Pet Om
Pile Em To
Pile Me To
Lite Em Op
Lite Me Op
Tile Em Op
Tile Me Op
Pie Elm To
Pie Let Om
Pie Em Lot
Pie Me Lot
Pie Met Lo
Tie Elm Op
Tie Em Pol
Tie Em Lop
Tie Me Pol
Tie Me Lop
Elm Ope It
Elm Ope Ti
Elm Poet I
Elm Toe Pi
Mole Pet I
Melt Ope I
Ole Em Pit
Ole Em Tip
Ole Me Pit
Ole Me Tip
Ole Temp I
Ole Met Pi
Ole Pet Mi
Lope Em It
Lope Em Ti
Lope Me It
Lope Me Ti
Lope Met I
Pole Em It
Pole Em Ti
Pole Me It
Pole Me Ti
Pole Met I
Tole Em Pi
Tole Me Pi
Let Em Poi
Let Me Poi
Let Poem I
Let Mope I
Let Ope Mi
Em Ope Lit
Em Toe Lip
Em Pet Oil
Me Ope Lit
Me Toe Lip
Me Pet Oil
Let Em I Op

ones that might make sence:

Pie Motel=a place?
Meet Pi Lo= meet someone named Pi Lo, maybe in Chinatown
Lie Me Top=just sexual biggrin.gif

can you find anything that would be a clue..ish


and btw Osiris Knight did you read all the other posts because i couldnt find a GASP in your post monocle.gif

QUOTE
And also in regards to the bull logo, it looks just like the two on top of the restaurants that i mentioned in my earlier post.

where is this OTHER bull?

EDITEDITEDIT::: it would be very rare if you would see a SHORT post from me smile.gif

i fought the backpacker.. yes fought. i have never got him to fight me before.
he always just ran away. now he fought me. and i wrote down all his battlecalls or whatever they are:

fighting is for the weak

you want to join our fellowship?

have you heard of the epsilon program

you should read some literature (you know books and stuff. maybe not spelled right.)

kifflom! krant! help!

i bring a message of peace

youre being foolish

kifflom brother-uncle (this time with an angry voice)

P.S. what does one of the callers on entertaining america say
when chis formage is interviewed?

"---------- had it made. they dragged theyre wimen by their hair..."

who had it made?

this is important because i heard the wrestling ad propably on K-DST:
"--------- who drags his woman by her hair.."

again who dragged his woman by her hair?

there is clearly a connection between these.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (DaSanAnThug @ Jul 26 2008, 10:31)
QUOTE (DaSanAnThug @ Jul 25 2008, 08:07)
scary dude. i went there. no markers

and the bull doesnt look like the one in the desert.
the steak house bull is brown and fat.
the bottle bullis black and not fat



QUOTE
And also in regards to the bull logo, it looks just like the two on top of the restaurants that i mentioned in my earlier post.

where is this OTHER bull?

I'll take a picture of the marker and post it up.

And as for the bull read my first post on page 4. There is a barn shaped building in fort carson with another bull on top. And both the restaurant and this barn have a sprunk dispenser outside. Coincidence?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:08 PM

what about the "hair dragger" on the radio?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:19 PM Edited by Caixa, 26 July 2008 - 06:28 PM.

Yes, a SS will be good.What about the bulls? I made a mod...I will post a SS.

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6 page yeah devil.gif , SS:

user posted image

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (Caixa @ Jul 26 2008, 18:19)
Yes, a SS will be good.What about the bulls? I made a mod...I will post a SS.

what SS?

yes page 6 tounge2.gif
read some of the posts on the 1st page.
quite hilarious:
"kifflom will get out of the car and give you a blindfold" biggrin.gif

P.S. nice mod icon14.gif

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:18 PM Edited by Caixa, 26 July 2008 - 07:39 PM.

QUOTE (DaSanAnThug @ Jul 26 2008, 18:55)
QUOTE (Caixa @ Jul 26 2008, 18:19)
Yes, a SS will be good.What about the bulls? I made a mod...I will post a SS.

what SS?

yes page 6 tounge2.gif
read some of the posts on the 1st page.
quite hilarious:
"kifflom will get out of the car and give you a blindfold" biggrin.gif

P.S. nice mod icon14.gif

Of the mark next a windmill...someone say will post.
Kiffon out of a car? 4AM sries...I will read the 1st again.

EDIT

Oh, you're in first page, I find the house yesterday, I checked and the name of house in game archives is blues house ...today I will check the scripts from script.img, maybe I found something.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 09:03 PM

OMG! i just realized that the legendary 4am Series is fake.

look at the first picture. you can see the hud.

now look at all the other pictures. no hud.

he most likely turned the hud off so that no one could see the TWO huds
that you get while playing a 2 player freeroam.

if the first picture would not have shown the hud this could have been easyly
explained: the camera was in a bad position and the hud was simply out of the frame.

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but i DO think there might be something Epsilon related in that building since it is almost in
the middle of the desert and not a single mission take place in there.

so.. why is it there?

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (Caixa @ Jul 25 2008, 01:45)
QUOTE (˸ @ Jul 25 2008, 00:36)
This is old well-known fact that Epsilon people hang out in Verdant Meadows area.

Verdant Meadows is the desert airport area...and that people in that place only in that hour and doing that moves
I never see here...

Crap, I meant Verdant Bluffs



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i listened every line from the epsilon ped and this is what i got:


he's got tons more, if you open sounds bank with SAAM. They are all very similar though.

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 03:21 AM

QUOTE (DaSanAnThug @ Jul 26 2008, 21:03)
OMG! i just realized that the legendary 4am Series is fake.

look at the first picture. you can see the hud.

now look at all the other pictures. no hud.

he most likely turned the hud off so that no one could see the TWO huds
that you get while playing a 2 player freeroam.







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Posted 27 July 2008 - 07:35 AM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 27 July 2008 - 07:39 AM.

QUOTE (˸ @ Jul 26 2008, 21:21)
QUOTE
i listened every line from the epsilon ped and this is what i got:


he's got tons more, if you open sounds bank with SAAM. They are all very similar though.

i have ps2 so i cant do that sad.gif

unles its like SAM? is in on the internet or did
you mean searching the.. sound..files from the san andreas file?

eh?


edit: everyone! read every single post on the page 5 so that you will keep up with us.
ecxpesially the anagram thing.
its nonsence but interesting nonsence biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif suicidal.gif

and WHO is the hair dragger!? answaaaahh!

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Posted 27 July 2008 - 02:48 PM

Its really fake the 4AM.
I think that building in the desert is a big souvenir store, of the big cock.
I cant open the scripts of script.img with sanny editor.
On the site myepsilon.com (somewhere in this topic have a link) have a information about a man, he says something he was taken by aliens.The guy whit a black cap. I try to find hin in the area of cop girlfriend or the big ear.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 08:55 AM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 30 July 2008 - 11:38 AM.

i send an e-mail to the myepsilon guy.
i told him about the bottle and the house in the hills so he could add them to myepsilon.com .. or .org

EDIT: now everyone who is reading this..
answer these questions:

what do YOU think about the "cult photo" in madd dogs house (page 4)

listen to this. at 1:17 he says "---" had it made.
who had it made? it important because i heard this.
at 0:58 he says "the caveman who drags his woman by her hair"
there is clearly a connection.
and BTW why does Lazlow say "im not an egg" BEFORE chris says anything
about eggs??

what do you think of my El Tiempo anagram nonsence. do we need to meet Pi Lo or go to Pie Motel?

answer all of these or you are a bad person sad.gif


+ i found this cool program that makes you able to listen EVERY SINGLE THING from the radio.
commercials, songs, random retardation. but you can only use it if you have SA on PS2. like me!
the radio is FULL of epsilon stuff. like the Entertaining America #1. the guy before Lazlow..
he was a cult member. but he got shot during the interview with some movie star.

if you have SA on PS2. download the program from here!
it only takes about 10 seconds to install. oh and you need a dvd.. er thingy on your computer.
the one where the cds go wont play the SA disk.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 04:21 PM Edited by Scary Man, 30 July 2008 - 04:24 PM.

He says that hunter gatherer dudes dragged their women by their hair. Hunter Gatherers are pretty much the same thing as cavemen. orly.gif


How about making women out of garbage? Garbage truck?

And there are also several references to movies/tv. Maybe there are clues at the movie studio in vinewoo.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 06:05 PM

Sweet PS2 radio ripper, here have a cookie.gif

Moving on swiftly, anyone know if any official San Andreas e-mail addresses that are functioning? I tried the official cult site some way back in the thread, and it never reached its destination. We are searching a lot and gaining very little to see if there is anything to this - and I think mass e-mailing (not spamming, just annoying R*) R* may get us some clues or confirmations.

Also, any people out there know of any programs that help extract and read PS2 San Andreas files (All of them, not just music) tell me, as I think no-one has so far looked at these in the thread - an XBox one would be great too, but I would have to get the disc first.

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Posted 30 July 2008 - 07:21 PM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 31 July 2008 - 08:36 AM.

QUOTE (Mattsano @ Jul 30 2008, 18:05)
Sweet PS2 radio ripper, here have a  cookie.gif

damn! biggrin.gif another!
soon i will have enough to sell them

BTW you didnt answer why do you think Lazlow said "im not an egg"
BEFORE Formage said anything about eggs. mercie_blink.gif mercie_blink.gif mercie_blink.gif

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 08:41 AM

u mean lazlo in SA ?
i didnt even knew there was lazlo in SA, i thought he was in LC...
R* might want him to say that before Formage to be funny or something...

anyway have another cookie for all the good work u have done cookie.gif

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Posted 31 July 2008 - 10:14 PM

Ok so sanan thug, I checked out my friend's ps2 version of SA and on the game he just started there is no marker near fallen tree and there's no sadler that spawns there. So this could be something. I'll check a new game on my xbox when i get home later. But it's possible that I've triggered something in my game to begin the epsilon program.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 07:56 AM

QUOTE (Scary Man @ Jul 31 2008, 22:14)
Ok so sanan thug, I checked out my friend's ps2 version of SA and on the game he just started there is no marker near fallen tree and there's no sadler that spawns there. So this could be something. I'll check a new game on my xbox when i get home later. But it's possible that I've triggered something in my game to begin the epsilon program.

ok.. you are actually starting to sound interesting.
but you said that you would post a pic of the marker.
id like to see it.

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Posted 01 August 2008 - 10:43 AM

ok guyz, here is another great found.

you may already know that but Epsilon program is real. its a Greek cult with members
all around the world.

thats their sign:
user posted image

does this reminds you something??
maybe this:
user posted image

comments please tounge2.gif


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Posted 02 August 2008 - 10:56 AM Edited by venom7196, 02 August 2008 - 11:01 AM.

yes there is something strange about these billboards. the logo looks like logo of Epsilon Team. more info about Epsilon Team is here

CODE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epsilon_Team

http://theyear2012.blogspot.com/2005/04/epsilonism.html


But why is the word RAMPAGE used on the billboard? Rampage means literally violently angry and destructive behavior. Rampage is also a movie /about serial killer/
CODE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rampage_(film)
and a car/pickup truck - dodge rampage. it looks like Picador from SA.

user posted image

user posted image


There is also other similar billboard. look what is written udner the Eris logo

user posted image

There is "Bring chaos to your feet". it looks normal... but if you take another look at the Eris logo, notice that it consists of letter epsilon /the fifth letter of the Greek alphabet/ and word Eris. Who or what si Eris? The answer is here

CODE
http://www.geocities.com/tribhis/Eris.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(mythology)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)


Eris is the goddess of confusion, chaos and laughter. What is the "EPSILON ERIS" logo telling us? That the Epsilon cult was there only to "bring chaos and confusion" to players? Was it only a joke from R* that should keep us playing SA until the new gta was released? maybe...

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 02:06 PM Edited by _-=Zombie=-_, 03 August 2008 - 02:13 PM.

Eris is suposed to be a clothes brand in SA.
but i dont think that it has to do with chaos. epsilon team is suposed to be a peaceful religion.
anyway in real world epsilon is not a religion but it has to do something with the religion.

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Posted 03 August 2008 - 06:23 PM Edited by DaSanAnThug, 04 August 2008 - 04:01 PM.

QUOTE (venom7196 @ Aug 2 2008, 10:56)
But why is the word RAMPAGE used on the billboard? Rampage means literally violently angry and destructive behavior. Rampage is also a movie /about serial killer/  dodge rampage. it looks like Picador from SA.

There is "Bring chaos to your feet".  it looks normal... but if you take another look at the Eris logo, notice that it consists of letter epsilon /the fifth letter of the Greek alphabet/ and word Eris. Who or what si Eris? The answer is here

Eris is the goddess of confusion, chaos and laughter. What is the "EPSILON ERIS" logo telling us? That the Epsilon cult was there only to "bring chaos and confusion" to players? Was it only a joke from R* that should keep us playing SA until the new gta was released? maybe...


i think youre on to something!

Questions:
1. Is Eris a greeck goddes?

2. did you ment to write slaughter instead of laughter? it would fit better with chaos and confusion
laughter = lol.gif
slaughter = suicidal.gif

3. do you think that Ryders picador is red? or is it brown? it looks kinda red..ish

scenario: youre a game maker. you and your co-workers have decided to put a mysterious cult in the game.
youve also decided to make a puzzle/mystery/tresure hunt in the game to reveal the cult as a bonus feature.
wouldnt you make it the most diffucult, longest and best treasure hunt of all?

i would.

i think that they expected us to do some back ground check.
find information about these things.

they expect us to find out that the epsilon program is in the real world too.

they expect us to find theire logo.

they expect us to see the Eris billboard and knowdess the similarity.

they expect us to see the word "rampage"

they expect us to go and find info about "rampage"

they expect us to see the car they used as a model for Picador.

and... well.. could this be the truck?








EDITINGEDITEDEDITION: i went to the eris sign close to the east los santos hospital.
then i saw a red picador.
my thoughts:
"look at that! what a coinsidence!"

"thats exactly the kind of car we were talking about on the GTA Forums"

"(looking at the clock) 5 am.. thats kinda like a dawn.. mercie_blink.gif "

"red truck.. dawn.. at the Eris sign.. arg"

(chasing the car) "no! it vanished already"

"dammit!! angry.gif "

so then i went stunting. i was in the skate park with my NRG-500 when i looked at the clock.
1 am. i decided to go to the same point iwas when i saw the red picador.

exactly 4:00 am. a red picador appears next to me and stops.. mercie_blink.gif mercie_blink.gif mercie_blink.gif mercie_blink.gif ph34r.gif

(a grand theft auto happends)


and now i have the red picador. my PS2 is on and i pressed start.

where should i go?

to the epsilon ped?
to the cult farm?

suggestions..

EDIT:

i took it to verdant bluffs to see the epsilon ped. he didnt pay any attention to it.
so i recruited him so that i wouldnt be travelling alone on my up and coming road trip.

then i took the truck and the ped to the "blues house" in the vinewood hills. nothing.

then i drove to the Cult Farm. again.. nothing.


...crap

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Posted 04 August 2008 - 09:11 PM

Hey, some progress!What happen?A picador appear at 4am next to you in LS skatepark?
Someone can ansewer a question? In the highway next to Cj house appears saddlers? Here some
of this car are spawning .




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