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Posted 08 May 2006 - 04:39 AM

QUOTE (Snares @ Jan 28 2006, 11:40)


Until the sex industry has changed, I suggest all men on this board refrain from watching hardcore pornography, especially sites and magazines that objectify women in a dishonest, mean and crude way.


Pfft. Yeah right. PORN IS AWESOME!

99% is fake? Wow. What about the home-movie porn. Or street porn?

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (PSPsycho @ May 6 2006, 11:02)
QUOTE (J-zilla @ Apr 21 2006, 14:44)
QUOTE (Snares @ Jan 28 2006, 11:40)

Sex and love are  a comody.

Remember my words...

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like you really arent making any sense...

how ppl want to express their sexual identity is there bussiness (as long as it is within the confines of the law) and your painting people as divents when it isnt any of u bussiness or concern

women are being degraded?
well.....

1. its not against their will
2. it is there chosen profession
3. many ppl find sexual satisfaction out of being degraded jut like you find it in labelling ppls preferences as disgusting
4. ur acting like a porn boy-cot would "save" these women well in fact you would be taking away their lively hood


(whooo...PORN)

You have written some profound words, yet you have horrible grammar. I cannot decide if I want to like you for your meaning, or hate you for the way you express it. cry.gif

Curse my hasty attempt to express myself,

I have jarred my point due to my appalling command of the English language

CURSES

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Posted 27 December 2006 - 07:26 PM Edited by _-playero-_, 27 December 2006 - 07:28 PM.

Whether you watch porn or not, you like it or not, there IS some really sick and degrading sh*t around, things that shouldn't even be thinked of.

I see no art in porn. I do understand people who watch porn in a regular basis but it can become vicious very easily. And if you say that it is peoples fault if they become addicted to porn, it's the same as saying it's peoples fault if they become addicted to drugs, so you are complete idiot.

As far as my concept goes Nudism != Porn. Nudism can be an art indeed.

But in the end it is whatever people want to do, and you guys here are defending porn, which I agree with, and flaming the topic starter, where I fail to see the necessity to do so.

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 12:31 AM

SWAP.AVI lol


Porn is part of growing up, so is wanking. Porn is a huge business. Porn gives people jobs and pleasure. Once ppl start sh*tting on eachother its a different matter

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Posted 30 December 2006 - 10:34 PM

QUOTE (_-playero-_ @ Dec 27 2006, 15:26)
And if you say that it is peoples fault if they become addicted to porn, it's the same as saying it's peoples fault if they become addicted to drugs, so you are complete idiot.

Getting addicted to drugs is the fault of the people who get addicted. If you start taking drugs, and get addicted to them, whose fault is it supposed to be? Drugs themselves? Drug dealers? That's the kind of mentality that leads to the war on drugs, which creates an environment where honest businesses cannot compete with mobs. Government might as well just hand money to the drug lords, and all because it's the drugs' fault, and people who got addicted had no responsibility in it whatsoever.

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Posted 31 December 2006 - 06:18 PM

Pornography is like communism.
There are pornographics, and communists.

People can be in pornographic films and propaganda yet not believe in pornography, and there are people who are against pornography who beat pornographers up.

People can be in communist films and propaganda yet not believe in communism, and there are people who are against communism who beat communists up.

Pornography and Communism are seen differenly by different people.

Pornographers see pornography as part of their life, communists see communism as part of their life.

Pornography and Communism are not part of many people´s lives. People outside of Pornography (OUT OF PORNERS) find Pornography to be radical, different and/or unusual; People outside of Communism (OUT OF COMMIES) find Communism to be radical, different, and/or unusual.

Pornography has good things. Communism has good things.

Pornography is helpful to many people. Communism is helpful to many people.

Pornography helps bring some OUT OF PORNERS together. Communism helps bring some OUT OF COMMIES together.

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Posted 02 January 2007 - 02:28 AM

Well, I'll never be able to look at Stalin the same way again. But I'll agree with you this far: double penetration certainly does bring men closer together.

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 06:25 PM

You know...

Beavis and Butthead were really smart guys.

As we defend pornography from fundamentalists, we take our ideals into account.

After all we don't want to find ourselves actually arguing against our heroes, and admirers of our heroes trapped in fundamentalist garb.

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 08:20 AM

This reminds me of the good ol' days. Back when Vicky was in charge we had to lace the legs of pianos because they were curved. Wouldn't want to excite any men! wow.gif

Queen Victoria was a stuck-up b*tch. She demanded two of Australia's states be named after her, Victoria and Queensland. She also demanded Brisbane be named after her, thankful that never happened, but she did get a bridge of theirs...

So to conclude my views, Queen Victoria = icon13.gif

There's so much sick sh*t that goes on, like this newly invented "slash & f*ck"... mercie_blink.gif

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 11:58 PM

QUOTE (K^2 @ Mar 25 2006, 23:35)
Humans choose to be tied to a single mate. Male needs to make sure that his female is only insemenated by him. In modern society that means that every male expects his female to be faithful to him. Since we have a 1:1 ratio, this means that the only way to have that is if each male is pared of with one female.

I was thinking about this, and it is true, to a certain extent.

Because it's better if your brother has 15 children than both of you having 5 each in terms of survival of your specific genes since there is very little difference between the genes you have and the genes of your brother.

And we have very close to a 1:1 ratio, but there are more men able to reproduce than women, thanks to menopause and longer life spans.



Extending the point of your brother vs. yourself. Your genes would also get passed on if your father got more tail. Or your cousin. Or any other human being. Or any humanoid. Or any mammal. Or any living being.

oh... I wished to add this:
QUOTE (wikipedia "animal sexuality")
Animal sexual behavior takes many different forms, even within the same species. Researchers have observed monogamy, promiscuity, sex between species, sexual arousal from objects or places, rape, copulation with dead animals, homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual sexual behaviour, and situational sexual behaviour and a range of other practices among animals other than humans. Related studies have noted diversity in sexed bodies and gendered behaviour, such as intersex and transgender animals.

The study of animal sexuality (and primate sexuality especially) is a rapidly developing field. It used to be believed that only humans and a handful of species performed sexual acts other than for procreation, and that animals' sexuality was instinctive and a simple response to the "right" stimulation (sight, scent). Current understanding is that many species believed monogamous have now been proven to be promiscuous or opportunistic in nature, a wide range of species appear to both masturbate and to use objects as tools to help them do so, in many species animals try to give and get sexual stimulation with others where procreation is not the aim, and homosexual behavior has now been observed among 1,500 species, and in 500 of those it is well documented.[1]

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 04:09 PM

QUOTE (Hayden Stasven @ Mar 20 2007, 09:20)
This reminds me of the good ol' days. Back when Vicky was in charge we had to lace the legs of pianos because they were curved. Wouldn't want to excite any men!  wow.gif

Queen Victoria was a stuck-up b*tch. She demanded two of Australia's states be named after her, Victoria and Queensland. She also demanded Brisbane be named after her, thankful that never happened, but she did get a bridge of theirs...

So to conclude my views, Queen Victoria =  icon13.gif

There's so much sick sh*t that goes on, like this newly invented "slash & f*ck"...  mercie_blink.gif

John Howard = icon13.gif

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Snares @ Jan 28 2006, 11:40)
Since the beggining of human society, pornography and sexual stimulants have been around. People have pleasured themselves with such things, and for the most part, I has been clean (if there is such a thing). But, in the past century, pornography has begun a slow, downward slope into disguisting perversion and animalism. Many awful words have been used to describe women, and the things that take place during intercourse. Words, like bitch, or whore, or slut, or even c**t (words so morphed I tend not to say them), have been used to objectify women, and I'm tired of it...

Until the sex industry has changed, I suggest all men on this board refrain from watching hardcore pornography, especially sites and magazines that objectify women in a dishonest, mean and crude way.

Sex and love are beutiful things, but we have made it into a comodity.

Remember my words...

Peace.

How do you know what pornography was like since the beginning oh human society? Is this based on what you see todayin museums and textbooks? Did it ever occur to you that we don't have everything that existed very long ago, and also that respectable places like museums and education-oriented publishers that publish textbooks don't want to include the nastier side of ancient pornography? How about you do some research first.

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 05:20 AM

The women who pose for pornography really are saying:

"I am looking for a guy who is going to view me as a piece of meat."

Porn is wrong and these women allow themselves to be treated like sex objects and it is a shame that these women do not have self-respect or dignity.




A shame.... sad.gif

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Posted 21 April 2007 - 06:12 AM

QUOTE (dulaney0330 @ Apr 21 2007, 01:20)
The women who pose for pornography really are saying:

"I am looking for a guy who is going to view me as a piece of meat."

Is that from personal experience, or are you just making stuff up? Seriously, how many porn models do you know in person? If your answer is less than at least 2, why do you think you can make any such judgment, much less, generalize to all of them?

And why is it just women, suddenly? What about men? Are you a sexist as well? Or did you just forget to think before writing something? And just a suggestion, for the future, if you can't argument your point of view, D&D is not a good place to post.

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Posted 11 May 2007 - 09:44 AM

My ex liked me to insult her during sex.

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 11:31 AM

if anyone is a piece of meat in porno it is the man. when you see a woman in porn you are to some extent idolising her, she is the centre of your attention. in the pornos i watch the man's face is rarely shown, you'll get shots of his cock and occasionally (unfortunately) a hairy ass but rarely a face. he is a human dildo. no one is more objectified in a porno than a man.

99.9% of the time the models in porn have chosen this as their profession and completely accept it. there is no shame in being attracted to a porn model because she is being gang banged or used as a sex toy in any manner, it is her job and she knows exactly what she is doing and what feelings she is inspiring. morally, if you're so against this degredation of porn models you should be just as incenced about secretaries, nurses, or any female worker who is looked at in a sexual manner unbefitting their profession. porn models sign up to be stared at, nurses don't.

if you don't like porn, don't participate. how can you justify the removal of a pastime enjoyed by hundreds of millions of people just because you don't like it? it's just as ridiculous as trying to dispose of football or television.

currently watching: double gloryhole, pussy and mouth, nice position.

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 08:34 PM

The problem with porns is that it CAN translate into bad psychic. Now there is nothing wrong with loving someone and having sex with them, BUT when society becomes aware of porn and the used of women, they're not thinking in the same line as loving someone and banging them anymore than simply using them and this become dangerous to society...because now you have someone out there seeing a HOT chick walking the street and he's thinking...damm i wanna bang her...damm she's mine .....damm i am horny now. This way of thinking is exactly what porn can make a person out to be...and that's not good to society. Not good because you're supposed to love a person for who they are, and not just that one thing they have.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:48 AM

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[...] and that's not good to society. Not good because you're supposed to love a person for who they are, and not just that one thing they have.

Why? Putting STDs aside for a moment, and keeping in mind that sex is not reproductive in our society, what are the negative consequences of unattached sex?

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 11:25 AM

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QUOTE (reptilexcq @ Jul 4 2007, 16:34)
[...] and that's not good to society.  Not good because you're supposed to love a person for who they are, and not just that one thing they have.

Why? Putting STDs aside for a moment, and keeping in mind that sex is not reproductive in our society, what are the negative consequences of unattached sex?

True. There is always a chance your partner or gf or whatever will cheat on you, you like it or not. Also, I am sure a forced commitment, if suddenly reptilexcq gets his way and all sex is attached, is in my opinion bad for society.

People should have a choice, and if they want unattached sex, I see no problem at all, unless it is reproductive, then I think attachment is vital.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 03:46 AM

Do you remember porn before the internet?

Im not anti porn, but it is a industry which is far overpromoted now due to massive sales increases seen by the internet. Massive corporations accuired porn companies, and promote it in mainstream media....

So in those terms, I am against it. If it could somehow get off of mainstream tv, and stay on the internet and the backroom of the video store, and on the top of the magazine rack, there is nothing wrong with porn....

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 03:53 AM

internet has made porn simply accesible through google and a quick turn off of the "Safe search" function tounge.gif

so yeah, porn is getting easier and easier to acquire as time passes, back when I was 10, I had to sneak my way to my brother's stash of hustler in the wee hours of the morning

first time seeing lesbians and penis insertion into the woman's vagina was like wow.gif

more shock than the first playboy I read and wondered why the woman has no penis....

although come at a later age, there are now women with penises... eurgh...

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Posted 02 August 2007 - 04:01 AM

QUOTE (Nucflash @ Jul 20 2007, 03:46)
Do you remember porn before the internet?

Im not anti porn, but it is a industry which is far overpromoted now due to massive sales increases seen by the internet. Massive corporations accuired porn companies, and promote it in mainstream media....

So in those terms, I am against it. If it could somehow get off of mainstream tv, and stay on the internet and the backroom of the video store, and on the top of the magazine rack, there is nothing wrong with porn....

I support your statement dude, there has to be some responsability when showing this kind of material into the public

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Posted 04 August 2007 - 07:40 PM

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I think you're missing a few steps there. First of all, 99% of pornography out there is staged. Which means everything you see is a part of those people's jobs. Everybody's jobs has some element(s) they may not like, but do for the money.

You're also ignorantly blaming something a person could come in contact with for altering their actions. If a man starts referring to women en masse as c*nts because he saw somebody do that in a film, it was that man's decision. Not the porn.

Another thing you're assuming is that those that partake of porn get into the hardcore stuff to begin with. I for one don't. To me, the female form is art and usually just photographs of the better examples of that are good enough. Point being that pornography is an entire industry and only a few aspect of it engage in the language you're referring to.

Which brings me to my next point. Pornography can have lots of different aims. It could just be an attractive female, an attractive female nude, people engaging in sexual acts... The list goes on and on. What constitutes attractive? It's a matter of taste. That's the point. While I myself am disgusted by human waste pics/vids, their prevalance would indicate that this is a fetish that some people enjoy. Just because we don't find ourselves getting into certain things doesn't mean we're in a position to judge others that do. Just as they would not be entitled to judge us for something we do or enjoy so long as it's not hurting anybody (that didn't deserve it devil.gif ).

So no, my habits in pornography will not be changing anytime soon. Sorry.

i agree i mean when you watch some porn the woman are thinking about what they have to do today etc. washing etc. not getting horny off a actor...

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 07:07 AM

So what if it's animalistic? We're animals. Intelligent animals. Sex is kind of a f*cked up thing anyway. Everything about humans can be considered strange. Get high and think about it lol. wink.gif

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Posted 06 August 2007 - 08:16 AM

i'd actually done some research on it......about how it effects you and your famiy.
you know the whole 9 1/2 years for a research paper.
I for on know i am a porn addict, and am not asshamed to state that fact,
but i am glad to say that i did have a problem and i solved it.
I took all my porn i had, my mags, my hdd )where the porn was) the porn i had on disks and drove way into the conntry fields and threw the sh*t out.

i couldn't be any happer i've done that
i was at the point to where that was the only reason i had my comp....kinda sad, lol.

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Posted 15 August 2007 - 02:47 AM

QUOTE (dulaney0330 @ Apr 21 2007, 05:20)
The women who pose for pornography really are saying:

"I am looking for a guy who is going to view me as a piece of meat."

Porn is wrong and these women allow themselves to be treated like sex objects and it is a shame that these women do not have self-respect or dignity.




A shame.... sad.gif

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Posted 19 August 2007 - 09:41 AM

QUOTE (All-Blacks @ Apr 2 2007, 16:09)
QUOTE (Hayden Stasven @ Mar 20 2007, 09:20)
This reminds me of the good ol' days. Back when Vicky was in charge we had to lace the legs of pianos because they were curved. Wouldn't want to excite any men!  wow.gif

Queen Victoria was a stuck-up b*tch. She demanded two of Australia's states be named after her, Victoria and Queensland. She also demanded Brisbane be named after her, thankful that never happened, but she did get a bridge of theirs...

So to conclude my views, Queen Victoria =  icon13.gif

There's so much sick sh*t that goes on, like this newly invented "slash & f*ck"...  mercie_blink.gif

John Howard = icon13.gif

Most Australians hate John Howard, and I agree with Hayden Stasven.

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 09:20 PM

I wanted to post something intelligent on this thread so I thought I would do a little research of my own. Problem is I can only research "pron" for about fifteen minutes at a time then I get really tired, anyone else have this problem? sleepy.gif

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Posted 22 August 2007 - 09:45 PM

Oi, I'd talk to a doctor about that, mate. My research can last anywhere up to 4 hours if I'm particularly, eh, intrigued. wink.gif

I'd like to know what the consensus is around here when it comes to erotica - where is the line drawn between porno and erotica? It can't simply be a matter of which is more explicit, because much erotica is quite explicit. Is it a feeble differentiation?


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Posted 23 August 2007 - 08:28 PM

Great question, I think my opinion on what is erotica and what is porn could change a couple times a day. Some of those vinyl fetish magazines have some images that could be argued convincingly either way. I will take a cop out here and say "if it's in black and white, it's art!"

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