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Posted 06 August 2005 - 02:56 PM

i was going thru the coding wishing i knew how to install saves when i found this...
00000c3a:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
00000c4a:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
00000c5a:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 23 20 47 61 6e 67 20 # Gang
00000c6a:39 20 28 55 4e 55 53 45 44 29 0d 0a 73 65 6e 74 9 (UNUSED)..sent
00000c7a:69 6e 65 6c 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 inel
00000c8a:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
00000c9a:20 20 20 20 20

00000ca0:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
00000cb0:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 23 20 47 61 6e # Gan
00000cc0:67 20 31 30 20 28 55 4e 55 53 45 44 29 0d 0a 72 g 10 (UNUSED)..r
00000cd0:61 6e 63 68 65 72 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 ancher
00000ce0:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
00000cf0:20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
what intrests me is " # Gang 9 (UNUSED)..sentinel". it fits the lone mafia's description. the other unused gang, i have no clue


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Posted 06 August 2005 - 08:27 PM

Wow it's probably the gang they used for the cutscenes with the mafiia!!
That would be awesome (I know nothing about modding games) if you could enable them somehow!
Great find!

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 08:32 PM

i bet theres some way to re active it intresting to see where they are maby around the strip

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Posted 06 August 2005 - 08:37 PM

if u take a look in one hud.txd u also see the lil' poppet thingys when u have a gang war... but then ull see more : user posted image

as u can see we know the 1st two... but those others... but the mafia aint in it, right?

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 12:33 AM

You can sometimes see these mafia guys on the PS2 even without using codes, or the territory glitch, but it's very, very rare.

Both of these pics were taken in Bayside about a block from the boat school.
And I've yanked that guy in the background of the bottom pic (the one wearing gloves, and a brown leather jacket.) out of a sentinel about a block from the "Car parking" asset, right near the "big pointy building" in SF.
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Could these be the Leones?

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 12:42 AM

i've seen em around the boat school area too, it's kinda werid because when i shoot em or jus fire a random shot not hitting anything, they jus run off.

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 12:48 AM

great find, never seenem tho

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 01:11 AM

Lol, did you notice that on the stats there's something like "Most unused gang" ?

Well , now do you see a green little man here?

I guess that they tried to make you select which gang to be on (like in GTA2)

Let's say you select to be a Balla ... well, so the "green little man" will appear when the grove's attack you ...

There is also another little man with the colour of CV's gang ... They are all over the territory you can't attack ... but they attack you ... Some unfinished codes maybe?

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 01:46 AM

Actually that green man was used during the mission where you take Glen Park from the Ballas the first time.

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:30 AM

Cool finds, I wish if they were in SA though, it was my favourite gang in GTA 3 even though they shot your ass down in a couple of seconds.


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Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:35 AM

Wow, I thought I pretty much all simple things like this have been discovered, but I never lose faith in the community. This is news to me.

Thanks for bringing it forward to my attention. smile.gif

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:41 AM

Yes, if they drive the Sentinel it must be Leones rolleyes.gif

You do realize the Triads drive Sentinel's too, don't you? And the fact that the gang is UNUSED certainly doesn't suggest the line is a placeholder. dozingoff.gif

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:48 AM

QUOTE (Opius @ Aug 6 2005, 22:41)
Yes, if they drive the Sentinel it must be Leones rolleyes.gif

You do realize the Triads drive Sentinel's too, don't you? And the fact that the gang is UNUSED certainly doesn't suggest the line is a placeholder. dozingoff.gif

You'd know better then I would, so a few questions:

1. Do you know what gang the guys from my pic that drive Sentinels (and possibly other cars) belong to? Are they just called mafia, or are they not even named in the code?

2. Do you know where I could find the thread that had all the code pertaining to all the gangs used and not used, including what cars they were associated with?

I've searched for it previously but found nothing, so either my search skills are substandard, or the thread has been streamlined.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:50 AM

they're not named in the code.

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Posted 07 August 2005 - 02:59 AM

Pretty much everything relating to the gangs themselves apart from stats are setup in the mission script. Models used, vehicles used, weapons used, territory, all of that is setup in the SCM. I'm pretty sure the only things the data files are needed for regarding gangs are the initial model definitions and behaviour.

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 09:07 AM

has anyone checked one of the number plates on a car being drived by the "Leone" they could be custom whatsthat.gif

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 09:18 AM

All licence plates are random unless set by the mission script or a modified parked car generator.

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 02:05 PM

yeah, i might be horrid with code, but i can understand what he said.

(by the way, can irfranview view HUD.txd?)

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Posted 08 August 2005 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (s-paco @ Aug 6 2005, 20:37)
if u take a look in one hud.txd u also see the lil' poppet thingys when u have a gang war... but then ull see more : user posted image

as u can see we know the 1st two... but those others... but the mafia aint in it, right?

Originally you were going to be able to take over territory on other islands, but with different gangs, how I know is because in the Brady games book it shows a map of the gang places, and it shows the colours that youve just found (aswell as the normal ones)

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:05 AM

Everyone knows that. They're the mafia that appear after the territory glitch or the gang members rule the street cheat.


EDIT: I KNEW that you were originally supposed to be able to take every turf!

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 12:27 AM

The gloved fella with the brown jacket is the one who throws the molotov that starts the fire in the Sindacco meat-works.

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Posted 09 August 2005 - 02:24 AM

MAYBE...maybe , those mafia guys are a "glitch" that could be connected with this theory of an "unfinished code..."

http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=207292

I've also watched some videos that show hidden interiors that are not used... maybe rockstar should compress their games much more than they are doing now...

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:51 AM

Here are sum ps2 pics i took of the gang i found them by the boat school

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:19 AM

Had no idea of this new gang, nice find.

Thanks.

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Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:24 AM

I know what's going on here. They based SA off Vice City. See, there were 10 gangs in Vice City.

1. Security Guards
2. StreetWannabe's
3. Haitians
4. Cubans
5. Golfers
6. Diaz's Gang
7. Bikers
8. Vercettis
9. Fort Baxter Soldiers (Referred to as "StreetWannabe's" in least favorite gang)
10. Mission Gangs (The French in All Hands on Deck, the female gunners in Hit the Courier, the Forellis in Keep Your Friends Close...all referred to as "StreetWannabe's" in least favorite gang)

Note that the last two *DO* add to your "Gang members wasted" stat, and if you keep on killing them, your least favorite gang becomes StreetWannabes.

Since there are only 8 gangs in San Andreas, they obviously nulled out the last two.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

The blips are like this -
Green Guy - Grove Street Families (used in the missions Doberman & Beat Down on B Dup)
Dark Blue Guy - San Fierro Rifa (unused, in the beta you could take over they turf)
Light Blue Guy - Varrios Los Aztecas (unused, unknown if you could take over El Corona).
The Leone's aren't the unused gang.Why?Because the two unused gangs use models of Varrios Los Aztecas and are unarmed.They drive Sentinels, just like gang 6 which is the Mafia (all the Mafia families in one).The Mafia gang drives around in Sentinel's, Admiral's & Feltzer's and does not have a set territory.They carry Desert Eagles and Pistols.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 04:43 PM Edited by GTASAddict, 09 June 2013 - 09:35 PM.

The unused gangs that look identical to the Aztecas, drive only Sentinels and carry no default weapons.

Gang 9s map color is sapphire whereas gang 10s map color is black.

A bit off subject, but what hex editor did you use?

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 02:49 PM Edited by King Andreas, 13 June 2013 - 02:52 PM.

Wait, game programming is in raw format (not hex format), as I understand; according to my searches.




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