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Posted 26 July 2005 - 09:10 PM

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Miami attorney Jack Thompson claims cheat codes make EA's life sim a pedophile's paradise by showing genitalia; calls for ban on T-rated game.


How do you like your hot coffee? If you're Jack Thompson, you like it scalding game publisher's laps. The Miami attorney and antigaming activist has done his share to see that games don't fall into the wrong hands. And lately, those hands have belonged to almost everyone.

Thompson was among those who spearheaded the recent effort to slap an "Adults Only" rating on Rockstar Games' Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, and he's often been on the forefront of many other gaming issues, several of which have targeted the crime-spree-based GTA franchise. In the past, he's represented defendants who have been the victims of GTA-inspired crimes, including the triple homicide of three police officers by an 18-year-old boy in Alabama.

His beef with San Andreas? Unused code in the game that depicts sexual acts. These minigames can be unlocked by using game-cheat devices or patches available on the Internet.

Thompson is on a roll...and he's not done yet. His latest goat is a game that doesn't involve guns, carjacking, or prostitutes: He's going after Electronic Arts' The Sims 2.

In a manifesto sent today to press outlets, Thompson focuses on dismantling the Entertainment Software Ratings Board and exposing what he calls the industry's "latest dirty little secret." The secret's out now, and it involves nude sims.

In the statement, Thompson says, "Sims 2, the latest version of the Sims video game franchise ... contains, according to video game news sites, full frontal nudity, including nipples, penises, labia, and pubic hair."

The Sims 2 is a "life simulator." In the game, players steer their digital beings around their cyberlives. Actions include everything from the spectacular (getting married, having children, receiving promotions at work) to the mundane (cooking microwaved meals, going to the bathroom, mopping the floor). Such activities, as in real life, sometimes require nudity. EA circumvents inappropriateness by "blurring" out the nether regions, almost to a comical sense.

Knowing that the game is popular among all ages, EA has even taken steps to ensure that Sims fans aren't exposed to indecent depictions. In the recent expansion pack, The Sims 2 University, gamers can send their teenage sims off to college. However, instead of packing the expansion with "keggers" and "reefer," EA chose to use juice and bubble blowers.

Thompson doesn't seem to care. He cites a cheat code that can remove the blur that covers the nether regions. "The nudity placed there by the publisher/maker, Electronic Arts, is accessed by the use of a simple code that removes what is called 'the blur' which obscures the genital areas. In other words, the game was released to the public by the manufacturer knowing that the full frontal nudity was resident on the game and would be accessed by use of a simple code widely provided on the Internet."

It's not just the adults that are liberated from their wardrobes. Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."

Were this to be true, Thompson would have his smoking gun, and EA would be forced to recall all copies of The Sims 2. However, it's what's under the blur that Thompson's after. And what happens when the blur is lifted? A simple mannequin-esque smooth body, according to EA.

Jeff Brown, vice president of corporate communications at EA, in response to the accusations, told GameSpot, "This is nonsense. We've reviewed 100 percent of the content. There is no content inappropriate for a teen audience. Players never see a nude sim. If someone with an extreme amount of expertise and time were to remove the pixels, they would see that the sims have no genitals. They appear like Ken and Barbie."

Thompson doesn't buy it. "The sex and the nudity are in the game. That's the point. The blur is an admission that even the 'Ken and Barbie' features should not be displayed. The blur can be disarmed. This is no different than what is in San Andreas, although worse."

[UPDATE] Thompson this afternoon updated his earlier statement, saying he is aware certain mods only remove "the blur," but adds that "Electronic Arts has done nothing about this." Thompson's new conclusion: EA is "cooperating, gleefully, with the mod community to turn Sims 2 into a porn offering."

The last time we checked, The Sims 2 was rated T for Teen by the ESRB, which means that anyone 13 years of age, with $50 to spend, can purchase the game.

By Tim Surette -- GameSpot
POSTED: 07/22/05 12:06 PM PST


I don't know about Sims 2 (haven't played it yet) but I know that there were mods for Sims 1 that were far worse sexually than anything San Andreas has to offer. It is rediculous that people get so worked up about a little sex in a game, when there is sex everywhere on TV and in movies.

Violent video game have never made me want to kill anyone, but idiotic politicians have... maybe we should ban THEM. lol

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 09:20 PM

So, does this mean...it shows fun bits or doesn't show funbits?

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 09:41 PM

Well, I think that if you just remove the blur, they look like Ken & Barbie dolls, but I think you can download a mod to add in the "fun bits", I know you can for sims 1.

Also, how do Sims modders get away with selling their mods? I thought that was illegal or something

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 10:16 PM

That is the most pathetic attempt at a game banning ever

'Giving peodophiles all over the net the chance to act out, in virtual reality, their new move'

Yeah, cos in the sims 2 when you hover over a child there's options such as 'rape' or 'molester' with full animation dozingoff.gif


Also, 'they sold knowing full well that there was full frontal nudity', theres no full frontal nudity, its a human shaped pink thing. There are no nudity places, and the reason its there is so then the clothes textures have something to wrap around. The blur is there so then people like this dont complain. Like it said up there aswell, they included juice and party blower instead of drink and drugs.

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 10:26 PM

I just read this like 2 days ago. This guy is crazy. Sims2? lol...

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 10:31 PM

In the Sims 2 you can technically mod it so that the Older sims can have relations with the children sims. With full animation and dirty bits.

Alot worse than San An, there isn't any kids in San An and its an 18+ game anyway.

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 10:38 PM

QUOTE (JayC @ Jul 27 2005, 05:31)
In the Sims 2 you can technically mod it so that the Older sims can have relations with the children sims. With full animation and dirty bits.

Alot worse than San An, there isn't any kids in San An and its an 18+ game anyway.

But that's mods, the company didn't release the game like that.

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 11:46 PM

They haven;t done anything to stop it being changed easily. Which is the basis for the actions against Rockstar.

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Posted 26 July 2005 - 11:59 PM

I give up. If I read any more of this guys non-sense I'm literally gonna knock his f*cking block off. He says even the Ken and Barbie parts shouldn't be shown....then go after Mattell and tell them that a naked Barbie is indecent to young girls and boys. Hell, go after Bratz. They are dolls of teenage kids, and you can undress them, so pedo's absolutley must be going to their local toy store and picking these up by the thousands. My head has gone numb with the stupidity of this. Just because this f*cker has power and leeway with some higher-ups makes it unfair to everyone else who argues with him.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE (JayC @ Jul 26 2005, 16:31)
In the Sims 2 you can technically mod it so that the Older sims can have relations with the children sims. With full animation and dirty bits.

Alot worse than San An, there isn't any kids in San An and its an 18+ game anyway.

in any game you can mod anything to do anything. i am sure in a sesame street pc game(is there one?) you could mod it so all the characters are nekid women wow.gif

SESAME STREET IS WORSE THAN PORN!


but yeah, unless EA crushes him, this could lead to future games being harder, or impossible to mod sad.gif

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE (JayC @ Jul 26 2005, 23:46)
They haven;t done anything to stop it being changed easily. Which is the basis for the actions against Rockstar.

I do have a sneaking suspision that Rockstar left those files in so that modders would enable them and Rockstar could get the game past the censors.

But still, I'm getting tired of all his allegations.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:15 AM

You can actually see full frontal nudity in the PC version.

BUT,not without the USER MADE mod.

and its 2005!...who cares really?

Mr Thompson really needs to get a hobby.Maybe a book to read.The guy has way too much time on his hands.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:22 AM

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (Smashdamit @ Jul 26 2005, 20:15)
You can actually see full frontal nudity in the PC version.

BUT,not without the USER MADE mod.

and its 2005!...who cares really?

Mr Thompson really needs to get a hobby.Maybe a book to read.The guy has way too much time on his hands.

This is 2005, people don't read books.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:40 AM

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 10:06 AM

The thing about this is that when Mr. Jack Thompson was resaerching some more dirt on San Andreas he saw all the comments people made about games like the Sims 2 being worse and added that to his hit list.

If we all shut up about contraversial games he won't have any material and will die of uselessness.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 12:19 PM

Almost any game that is moddable can be used to make porn. And if this continues it might happend that game companies make it harder for modders to mod.

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 04:39 PM

Maybe we should write sign-thompson.gif and tell him something in a microsoft game or program is extremely offensive. Then he would go after them and Bill Gates would have him silently assassinated happy.gif

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 11:11 PM

He's such a f*cking loser. And a failure as a politian.

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 01:15 AM

That's really stupid, they dont really have genitals if youu remove the blur (and yes i tried it, almost everybody did), also who wants to masturbate or something with 3d objects??... it's pretty stupid and it doesn't have any sense.

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 03:07 AM

all i can say is SCORE!

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 03:10 AM

Who else hopes Jack Thompson gets anally raped by Pyramid Head? smile.gif

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Posted 29 July 2005 - 11:06 AM Edited by thedude420, 29 July 2005 - 11:16 AM.

this is just bullsh*t any way you look at it plain and simple.

why the f*ck do we elect these dumb f*ckers that give these even dumber f*cks power?

its the end of day i tell you. the country is slowly slipping in to communism. nervous.gif




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