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Posted 27 June 2012 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Wednesday, Jun 27 2012, 15:27)
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Wtf people are you talking about? Claude speed from GTA 2 is not the same person from GTA III and SA because the games are set in different eras and people from other era games doesnt appear in other eras games.

Say that to El Burro.

Well El Buro maybe exception biggrin.gif . But claude isn't even similar in GTA 2 and GTA 3.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:20 PM

Cmon, they are the same person. Don't be like a dickhead. And no, El Burro isn't exception.

Think - they are too similar. GTA 2 is set in unknown time, because website is saying 2013, and in the radio from this game it says that they are before millenium - so 1999.
He has no girlfriend there in GTA 2. OF COURSE History in this game differs, but person is just the same.

Look. He has no girlfriend, right? He lost Catalina after GTA III Thinking logically if he has no girlfriend it must be 2003 - in gta 2 movie his age is 28. In GTA 3 he is 27 and in SA he is 18

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:22 PM

Sorry for digging this topic.
They are not the same they look different.
GTA2 Claude:
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GTA3 Claude:
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:48 PM

^ Wrong GTA2 picture there. They are the same by name but I doubt they are supposed to be the same guy.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:55 PM

It's not a "wrong GTA 2 picture", it was made by Rockstar.

Actually, this is the right pic, because Claude Speed is 39 in GTA 2, you can see it when the Zaibatsu Corporation is checking his profile on the PC screen, and activate the Assassin to killl Claude.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 12:17 PM

Hmmm. He is unlike his movie\intro counterpart which incidentally looks somewhat like Claude from GTA III.

But still, how do you know this is him? The age thing doesn't prove anything.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Monday, Sep 3 2012, 05:52)
Sorry for digging this topic.
They are not the same they look different.
GTA2 Claude:
user posted image
GTA3 Claude:
user posted image

What is that suppose to mean? You do realize that there may have been significant changes to the development team. That been said of course he will look different is the artist team wasn't the same of the two games.

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:02 PM

^
I do realize but even though they are different Claude Speed is in GTA2 era, and R* them self said that GTA2 characters wont be in GTA3 that's one of the clues that they are different

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Posted 07 September 2012 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (nightwalker83 @ Tuesday, Sep 4 2012, 12:00)
What is that suppose to mean? You do realize that there may have been significant changes to the development team. That been said of course he will look different is the artist team wasn't the same of the two games.

That's a silly argument. If they wanted to make him look the same they could have done that.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 02:20 AM

I doubt it.

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Posted 29 September 2012 - 04:38 PM

Gta 2 takes place in 2013. have any of you read the official timeline? alien.gif



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Posted 29 September 2012 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE (nightwalker83 @ Tuesday, Sep 4 2012, 09:00)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Monday, Sep 3 2012, 05:52)
Sorry for digging this topic.
They are not the same they look different.
GTA2 Claude:
user posted image
GTA3 Claude:
user posted image

What is that suppose to mean? You do realize that there may have been significant changes to the development team. That been said of course he will look different is the artist team wasn't the same of the two games.

Claude speed looks a lot like niko bellic. orly.gif

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Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:33 AM

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Gta 2 takes place in 2013. have any of you read the official timeline? alien.gif



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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:58 PM

Grand Theft Auto II's main character looks alot like Niko bellic honestly. GTAIII's main character does NOT look like that main character. (GTAII)

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:12 AM

Yeah Claude from gta2/3/SA is meant to be the same person. To people going "omg how can he be the same person" if he was 19 in san andreas and 30 in GTA3 he would be 43 in GTA2 maybe he was frozen blah blah blah" It doesn't f*cking matter, hes not a real person he doesn't have a real life and he doesn't age.

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Claude speed from GTA 2 is not the same person from GTA III and SA because the games are set in different eras and people from other era games doesnt appear in other eras games.


Do you really think rockstar plans this sh*t? Like they have their own GTA bible and follow it to the letter? No. They were making GTA3, and wanted a main character, someone who doesn't talk and with no personality so you can feel like the player. They'd already made Claude for GTA2 and figured what the hell lets just make it that guy again. That's all there is to it. So rockstars chronology doesn't match up 100%, who cares.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:35 AM

QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Sep 2 2012, 20:22)
GTA2 Claude:
user posted image

I'm going to have nightmares for weeks. That's the creepiest thing I've seen in a while.

Like someone said earlier. Looks a lot like what could be a young, demonic, Niko Bellic.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:45 AM

Oh For the Love of....

Claude From GTA 3 Has NO Surname, It Was Originally Going to let YOU give him the Surname.
And Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:59 AM

QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.

Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:25 AM Edited by Johnny_Cash1983, 14 October 2012 - 08:29 AM.

QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.

Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.

If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:49 AM

There was other stuff, like the zaibatsu. Removed early in development.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 11:00 AM Edited by _____, 14 October 2012 - 11:03 AM.

QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 11:25)
If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3

El Burro does, sort of.

Edit: He's from GTA1. Zaibatsu are referred to in the commercials on the radio.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 01:06 PM

QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.

Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.

If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3

I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.

f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:45 PM

Actually, the name "Claude" appears in GTA III's game files. So you are incorrect. They did want to name him Claude as early they made III.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 13:06)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.

Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.

If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3

I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.

f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.

Sorry for misunderstanding. I think they did that because in GTA3 Beta you could name him and they liked Claude so they had him as an standard name which you could change.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 17:46)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 13:06)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.

Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.

If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3

I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.

f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.

Sorry for misunderstanding. I think they did that because in GTA3 Beta you could name him and they liked Claude so they had him as an standard name which you could change.

It's cool. smile.gif I think when it came to San Andreas they wanted to give him a bit more character depth as he was given more of a backstory, as it fills out the link between Liberty, Vice and SA a bit more. If you looked into it, Rockstar interlinked the cities and stories wonderfully, and when you play through all five games in the III canon you realise how incredible the story becomes.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (DC93 @ Monday, Oct 15 2012, 17:37)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 17:46)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 13:06)
QUOTE (Johnny_Cash1983 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 09:25)
QUOTE (DC93 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 07:59)
QUOTE (Haashir911 @ Sunday, Oct 14 2012, 06:45)
Each Game Takes Place in A Different "Universe" So That Means Each Character From a Universe DOESN'T Exist in the Other Universe.

Not true. GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas, Liberty City & Vice City Stories are all part of what's commonly known as the 'III Canon', where all the games' history, events and characters are somehow linked in one way or another. IV wasn't, even if there are references to it in game, mere throwbacks.

Claude from III was probably named after the character in 2 purely for convenience.

If he does exist in GTA3 then why doesn't anything from GTA2 appear in GTA3

I never said it was the same person. I actually disagree that it is. The developers at Rockstar probably just named him Claude for whatevers sake.

f*ck, I didn't know the 1st gen GTA protagonists had names, and even more to the point, we didn't even know that he was called Claude until San Andreas, everyone was going around calling him Fido up to that point. To me the link wasn't planned whatsoever. Other than by namesake. GTA2 and GTA III aren't in the same canon, which means they can't be linked at all.

Sorry for misunderstanding. I think they did that because in GTA3 Beta you could name him and they liked Claude so they had him as an standard name which you could change.

It's cool. smile.gif I think when it came to San Andreas they wanted to give him a bit more character depth as he was given more of a backstory, as it fills out the link between Liberty, Vice and SA a bit more. If you looked into it, Rockstar interlinked the cities and stories wonderfully, and when you play through all five games in the III canon you realise how incredible the story becomes.

That's why GTA never fails every new GTA improves.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:44 PM

QUOTE (leper73 @ Thursday, Jul 21 2005, 22:19)
I've also seen online story outlines say that Claude was in a cryogenetic prison (ala Demolition Man), and was released around the time of GTA2.

wasn't GTA 2 set in 2013? LCS was set in 1998 and III was set in 2001 so how old is Claude Speed now actually?

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 05:02 PM

QUOTE (Smaaske @ Tuesday, Oct 16 2012, 23:44)
QUOTE (leper73 @ Thursday, Jul 21 2005, 22:19)
I've also seen online story outlines say that Claude was in a cryogenetic prison (ala Demolition Man), and was released around the time of GTA2.

wasn't GTA 2 set in 2013? LCS was set in 1998 and III was set in 2001 so how old is Claude Speed now actually?

GTA2 is set Three week into the future.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:54 PM

GTA 3 is a reboot to gta1,london & gta 2, so
Cluade Speed from GTA 2 doesnt exsist in the
GTA 3 universe (3D Universe) its like how Liberty City changed in GTA 4, becuase GTA 4 was a reboot to GTA 3, the Cluade from GTA 3 is another person.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 01:28 AM

Claude on GTA II is the Claude Speed also, there's a video/ trailer of GTA that exist involving real people portraying Claude and other characters. In there you can see Claude of GTA II looking 90% Claude Speed. I believe that Claude Speed.

Here's the video:






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