Posted 14 June 2005 - 04:24 AM
I'll edit later, cuz I'm busy right now.
But mainly, talk about imports, old or new and aftermarket parts.
What you'd like to get, what you already have, and what's coming and new.
Anyone have pics of the Eclipse that's coming soon? Looks f*cking sweet. The supra too.
Posted 14 June 2005 - 04:59 AM
"street racers" = ricer, wanna be street racers based on a trend created by sh*tty movies/games
there are a lot of people who take pride in their imports, but there are a lot of ricers out there
if any of these apply to you, GTFO of this forum right now
you might be a ricer if:
| * You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.|
* You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.
* Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.
* 17" rims up front, 13" out back on your FWD.
* You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.
* You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission
* DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.
* Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.
* A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.
* Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.
* The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...
* Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1."
* Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.
* You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the fender.
* You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children and clowns are driving them.
* You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.
* Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...
* Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."
* You push your car through the staging lanes. That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.
* You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of aftermarket ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.
* Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake light...
* The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.
* You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!
* You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot.
* You install clear corner and brake lights.
* You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses.
* You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted it on the first speed bump you went over.
* You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match
* If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.
* if you can fit fist f*ck your exhaust tip
* You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!
* If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod youï¿½ve done to your engine yet.
* Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.
* EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost.
* You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang
* You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.
* You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.
* The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.
* If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler than your car does.
* You think the Del Sol is a sports car...
* A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.
* You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance
* If you think that horsepower is far more important than torque
* If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has given you more than 5 HP.
* If you have ever considered installing more than one set of fog / driving lights.
* If you claim that the aftermarket cold air intake system you just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.
* Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE).
* You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...
* If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.
* If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.
* MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.
* Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.
* Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")
* The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and rods in other people's eyes.
* If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects create a plow effect.
* If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.
* If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ï¿½mildlyï¿½ modified engine.
* If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not point out if asked where those parts are installed.
* You think pushrods are a bad thingï¿½
* Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.
* Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R.
* You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.
* If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you will never take to the trackï¿½
* You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that every time you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.
* You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.
* If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.
* You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.
* If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance" went hand in hand
* If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...
* If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R" stickers to your Sonataï¿½
* If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your springs by cutting them yourself ...
* If you have more neon lights on your car than a strip club...
* You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2, Ford Probe, or Mercury Cougar ...
* You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.
* You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted them with flat black Krylon and it's peeling. Badly.
* You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.
* You own a V-TEC Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TEC rotary engined Mazda RX-7)
* You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment
* You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior in performance to V8s.
* If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.
* You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool
* You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler with the weld marks extremely visible
* If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers
* If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators
* You have a front wing.
* If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers
* If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eaterï¿½
* If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool
* If you think colored head lights work better
* Clear tail lights and turn signals. Theyï¿½re colored for a REASON!
* If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it
* You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires, and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch
* You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.
* You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat him.
* You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic.
* You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..
* Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.
* after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.
* Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills."
* you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm sayin? Relate."
* Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to where the gun is almost sideways ...
* drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.
* You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring
* you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your car.. small, tight and hard to get into."
* You are a skinny, backwards hat wearing, dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pants leg, Limp Bizkit looking white boy fag with a badly applied peroxide hair color treatment and temporary rub-on tattoos!
* You've spent more on graphics and decals than you have in gas, for the whole year
* You sound like you're going 90, but you're creeping past 25
* You upgraded to the "big bore" 2 inch exhaust
* You lose 2 mpg by installing a body kit
* Your wing is so large that if you go faster than 65, your bumper drags
* You think "displacement" is something that happens to homeless people
* Yugo's give you a run for the money
* You continuously run red lights because they are invisible thru your red window tint
* 15's are considered HUGE rims
* You can reach back and defrost the rear window by hand
* You will race anyone, anytime, and already know that you will lose
* You think Moby is one of the greatest composers of our time
* You spend all your money pimping it out because spending money to make it faster is a waste
* Your little sister is the only one impressed with your car
* When you win a race, you don't really win, it's just that the other guy felt soooo sorry for you
* You think your mom's Corolla is fast
* The cross section of your exhaust tip is bigger than the contact patch of your tires
* Your aftermarket tach is bigger than your fist
* You bought the big ass tach to try to scare off the fast cars
* But all it does is let people know how hard you have to push it to exceed the legal speed limit
* You rev on school busses
* Hell, you rev on people in electric wheelchairs
* You buy and install custom rims a pair at a time
* YOU REALIZE THAT ALL OF THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND YOU STILL THINK YOU'RE COOL!!!
* You've entered a 12 step program called "How to come to terms with your limitations"
* The bill of your hat gets caught when you roll the window up
* You really want to kick my ass right now
* You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and don't know what they're for
* You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and DO know what they're for
* You go to the auto paint store and pick out the most retina burning color you can find
* You buy race gas to drop you from 17.02 to 16.9 in the quarter, and then tell all your friends how fast you went
* You add a second battery to power all the neon, and the mini disco ball
* You add a wing on TOP of your car, 'cause wagons need down force too
* You've ever painted bare, raw fiberglass black and said "Look! It's just like carbon fiber!"
* You get pimped out props from the mini truck crowd
* You still only get dates from high school girls
* You actually own a pair of light up glasses from Checker Auto
* When you install your super phat wing, you put the pointy ends up
* You purchase and install a body kit, one piece at a time
* You saw the "Rice Boy" magazine in the back of Sport Compact, and inquired about a subscription
* Your brother is pissed cause you stole the muffler off his dirt bike (it was a direct fit!)
* Your dad is worried cause you bought a car with less displacement than his lawnmower
Posted 14 June 2005 - 05:27 AM
Posted 14 June 2005 - 05:32 AM Edited by Mafia Righthand_Man, 14 June 2005 - 05:34 AM.
|QUOTE (SIP_YEK_NOD @ Jun 13 2005, 23:59)|
Or if your car looks like this.
Posted 14 June 2005 - 05:51 AM
1. adding body parts to make your vehicle look faster while actually making it slower
2. putting all of your money into "visual" modifications.
3. racing EVERYbody at EVERY light because you drive a civic, and they did it in the movie.
4. make your vehicle extremely loud/bright just to get everybody to look at you
now if you want a REAAAAAAAAL car. right here baby:
Posted 14 June 2005 - 06:01 AM
|1. adding body parts to make your vehicle look faster while actually making it slower|
2. putting all of your money into "visual" modifications.
Yes, but its what the owner of the car wants to do with THEIR car. Everybody over here in the UK puts a bodykit on, a sound system with subs in the back, alloy wheels, maybe a spoiler, then a custom paint job. But thats just because people want to make the car stand out. I'm not saying 'ricers' are good, because people who race in residential areas deserve to die, but what im saying is someone is not a ricer just because they want to modify their car. Obviously someone who's done that to their car up there ^ in that picture is just retarded, 'cos i cant see how anyone thinks that can look good.
Posted 14 June 2005 - 06:02 AM
|QUOTE (SIP_YEK_NOD @ Jun 13 2005, 23:59)|
i know it was lighthearted mockery.. but not all of this stuff is ricer...
color-matching and freaky color-choosing can be done on cars that arent slow..
tons of power and not much torque is common on small-displacement NA engines.. same with loud exhausts.. high revs for the power..
wide wheels/track always give atleast a slight performance increase.. even if it is negated by drag or rolling resistance at speed
low cars over speed bumps is just asking for trouble..
large exhausts can sometimes be of use..
clear corners give a cleaner look.. and colored bulbs make them usable. clear brake lights look good on certain cars aswell. altezzas are never ok though.
wait.. high boost is rice? wow.
the importance of power all depends on what you want the car to do.. i kinda like low-torque.. it means i'll have less wear on some parts and wont have to worry about roasting things inadvertently.
on cars that already make a lot of power, changing filter types can yield quite the gain.
once again turbos = rice? wow.
low cars dont like snow..
tape and fogs is cool in some circumstances.. especially when they're track-prepped cars.
180hp would be wondrous to get out of a mild small-displacement engine.. especially if it's at the wheels.
pushrods suck.. OHV cars are for rednecks..
Type-R cars arent rice.. they're like.. faster than average.
if you drive on the street like you should on tracks.. it's legit to strip your car.. not a safe thing to do, but reasonable nonetheless.
if your car made 230 before a turbo kit.. you can be certain it makes more than 250 after it.. with no dyno runs.
hyundais can be fast too.. especially if fords can.
hand-welded titan(ium) tubes are far hotter than some polished up showboy exhaust.
downforce is downforce.. no matter where the wing is.. (provided it's functional)
crazy cars on steelies are cool in a weird way. (if they're fast)
clear parts can still serve their purpose.
mom's accord may be one of those aforementioned Type-Rs.
mom may drive a hot hatch.
drift or drag (drag, ew.) much?
wagons do need downforce..
this looks liek the list from the riceboy page.. forgot the url... but i know i've seen the list before..
sad thing is, this list applies to tons of the guys that think they're now street racers thanks to movies and video games.. and makes random crazy fools who do this stuff naturally look bad.
also, the new eclipse is ass.. there hasnt been a good one since they dropped the 4G63 models.. they're just getting bigger and heavier.. they're girl's cars these days..
"imports" (cars that try hard to look and sound fast) and redneck cars (200hp us pushrod mullet-mobiles) suck.. both groups hate eachother so much.. but never see that they both suck..
Posted 14 June 2005 - 06:08 AM
if you dont mind me asking, what type of vehicle do you perfer?(reasonable vehicle, everybody likes supercars)
Posted 14 June 2005 - 06:35 AM
Normal cars - i.e, someone my age can realistically afford and modify.
I was going to buy a punto for around £800 but insurance was too high. My dream car that i'l probably spend all my life saving up for : Ford Mustang '04/'05.
Posted 14 June 2005 - 08:02 AM
So i'm totally for tuned street cars but only on a performance basis, with a bodykit tested in aerodynamic tunnel, and real engine parts, a wing that is actually useful .
Tho, in that case a real preparation cost more than the car itself (see 5zigen EG Civics for racetrack/road use) and our teenage boy can't afford it.
You got what you paid for... again
Exceptions can be made for Japan, even if it's for the style, the japanese people offer quality.
Posted 14 June 2005 - 10:45 AM
Posted 14 June 2005 - 01:23 PM
- You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car. A lot of actual tuners do this to make their car look even nicer.
- You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission What does this have to do with ricing?
- DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for. Again, nothing to do with ricing.
- Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts. There ARE some people who want to build a nice show winner and not a race car.
- The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months... Some cars are natural made sh*ts.
- Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1." Off-roaders, anyone?
- Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum. Like Gabe said.
- You install clear corner and brake lights. Style points.
- You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses. Style points.
- You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE! Like I previously stated, some people would rather have a nice sound system than tune their engine.
- EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost. Lancer Evolution VIII - 18psi
- You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang. A turbo on a Civic could easily take up the entire $5,000 but would not make enough power to be able to compete.
- The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile. Most automatics are slower because the gear changes are slower. It's a fact.
- Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE). Many people wear this because it's their style. It has nothing to do with ricing.
- Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed. S2000.
- If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ï¿½mildlyï¿½ modified engine. What if you're driving a VW Lupo?
- Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R. Driver preference, not rice.
- If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading. Something very easy to estimate.
- If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance" went hand in hand Hyundai Accent WRC.
- You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp. It can.
- You have a front wing. Many performance cars have these.
- If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it There are a lot of nicely tuned sedans.
- You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic. Shiftronic, Manumatic, Sportronic, etc.
- Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills." Possible.
- You spend all your money pimping it out because spending money to make it faster is a waste People do this and has nothing to do with rice.
- You think your mom's Corolla is fast Toyota Corolla Turbo.
- You buy race gas to drop you from 17.02 to 16.9 in the quarter, and then tell all your friends how fast you went Whatever it takes.
- You add a wing on TOP of your car, 'cause wagons need down force too They do.
Posted 14 June 2005 - 04:08 PM
|QUOTE (SIP_YEK_NOD @ Jun 14 2005, 14:08)|
| everybody likes supercars|
well, i'd rather drive an A31 or a C33, even an R31, maybe even a DR30 than ANY ferrari, lamborghini etc etc etc.
i must say that all you 'ricer hater' idiots are worse than the 'ricers' themselves. your arguments against them are more often than not absolutely f*cking rediculous.
oh, and for the record, i drive a skyline. it has a noisy exhaust and a useless pod filter. it only makes 140 hp at the rear wheels. in saying that, if you drive a mullet powered iron blocked V configuration engine'd heap of sh*t, f*cking bring it. i'll lose you after the first corner. ..<3
Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:06 AM
Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:13 AM
Posted 15 June 2005 - 02:09 AM
It's about preference too. Some people like looks. Others like speed. Some like both.
Now. ABFlug Supra anyone?
Posted 15 June 2005 - 02:36 AM
i think a stock supra looks sexier. but that is just me.
Posted 15 June 2005 - 04:54 AM
Posted 15 June 2005 - 06:35 AM
Posted 15 June 2005 - 10:58 AM
|QUOTE (Mafia Righthand_Man @ Jun 14 2005, 15:32)|
What's the story there? The sill cover looks like it's in high fill. f*cking hate rice, I've yet to see a riced up car that I like the look of.
Posted 17 June 2005 - 12:29 PM
Posted 17 June 2005 - 03:49 PM
|QUOTE (SIP_YEK_NOD @ Jun 15 2005, 13:34)|
|havent you heard? primer is this year's "in" color.|
whats wrong with primer, im primering my car now. it needs it badly, it was starting to rust and i have no money to have it painted.
Posted 17 June 2005 - 07:37 PM
|QUOTE (Pavlov @ Jun 14 2005, 09:02)|
| Basically, the verb to "tune up", where tuned imports came from, means performance. |
So i'm totally for tuned street cars but only on a performance basis...
I repeat what i've said. I'm totally against cars that look sporty and aren't (it's even dangerous). I'm against a car which is filled with 250kgs of useless stereo, too
Posted 17 June 2005 - 08:39 PM
The new Eclipse looks nasty as sh*t, I must admit. The earlier concept pictures looked so much better.
Posted 18 June 2005 - 09:25 AM
|QUOTE (Pavlov @ Jun 18 2005, 03:37)|
|I'm against a car which is filled with 250kgs of useless stereo, too|
agreed. i have my CD deck and 2 sh*tty speakers in the front doors. its all i have, its all i want. anythinng else makes it too hard to work on rear suspension, and sub boxes are good at creating outward dents in rear quater panels. ..<3
Posted 18 June 2005 - 10:49 AM
|QUOTE (SIP_YEK_NOD @ Jun 14 2005, 06:59)|
| imports street racers|
"street racers" = ricer, wanna be street racers based on a trend created by sh*tty movies/games
The trend wasn't created by 'sh*tty movies/games' - they're just effects of the growing interest in the Japanese boy-sport of drifting. Any common kid in Japan has drifting as his prefered hobby, or spare time activity. The original use of the word 'ricers' was for ALL japanese performance cars - no dispute intended. The new use of the word 'ricing' IS, however, a product of 'sh*tty movies/games' - which is a pity.
This particular style of customization is just one aspect of what started out as a way to pass time and have fun, to a full-blown sport, today - drifting. It all started out with some young people taking their RWD cars to the windy mountain roads, discovering the potential of inflicting rear end skid, then using the throttle to steer the car through the curve. Aerodynamic body parts were then applied to alter the grip and behaviour of the car, from big spoilers to full bodykits.
The rest of the story you know. The 'trend' spread as waves, hit the US and Europe, and created movies as FNF, Taxi, and so on.
Straight out ricing is lame, styling a car, 500hp monster or not, is still ok with me. I'll do it to my car some time, not being able to afford multi-thousand performance upgrades, not to mention gas, and that I'd never get such a car insured anywhere.
K, done. ~az
Posted 19 June 2005 - 03:27 AM
I watched some TV show the other day about some drifting competition in the states. It's f*cking crazy.
I wanna get a 240. =(
Posted 19 June 2005 - 04:41 AM
|QUOTE (GetawayInStockholm @ Jun 19 2005, 05:27)|
| Actually, drifting is quickly becoming one of the most popular automotive sports around the world.|
I like drifting. ~az
Posted 19 June 2005 - 04:44 AM
|QUOTE (azazel. @ Jun 18 2005, 22:41)|
I like drifting. ~az
i like slow motion drifting. 3/4 foot deep snow in a 2wd pick-up. you can stay sideways for as long as you want and only go about 10kph. its all the exitement of drifting without the speed, sound, smoke, tire wear and exitement.
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