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#151

Posted 13 January 2005 - 02:45 AM Edited by K^2, 13 January 2005 - 02:49 AM.

QUOTE (Kazass @ Jan 12 2005, 12:31)
Sorry K^2 but you're completely wrong here. My last calculations said that with a rate of only 10^1 codes per sec it would take 3 years 333...
and these calculations are 100% correct! I'm sure you didn't study mathematics, did you? Well, I did...so..
sorry, everyone makes a mistake, but just to clear up
with 10^4 codes a second it would need (1/100) * 3 years 333 days...
if it's that fast....but oh well..

as I already said, sorry didn' mean to insult you, but maybe I made a mistake, but I dont believe (I checked it through)...
so, just to clear up

I have taken classes in calculus, analysis, partial differential equations and calculus of variation, just to show where I stand on the mathematics. My major is Physics, and I focus on Quantum Mechanics, which takes quite a bit of applied math, so I know more math than most people have dreamt of. And unless you are at least a Senior on the Mathematics major, I doubt you know more mathematics than I do.

The combinations are up to 12 buttons in length, which means that if you don't search all 12 button combinations, you might miss one. There are 12 keys which can be used, and the order matters, so there are a total of 12^12 or 8,916,100,448,256 (~9*10^12) combinations. At 10^4 combinations per second, it will take 891,610,044.8256 seconds to go through all combinations.

There are 365.242 days in an average year (because of leapyears). And there are 86,400 seconds in a day, which gives you 31,556,908.8 seconds in an average year. 891,610,044.8256 / 31,556,908.8 = 28.254 years to go through all combinations. At the maximum rate of 10^7 combinations, it will be 1000 times faster, or 10.32 days.

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EDIT: Oh and K^2, sorry. I was wrong, my calculations would've been right if one code consisted of only different buttons, so no double buttons lol
That's why I didn't see a mistake because I thought if I made a mistake, then it would've been a calculative mistake, but actually I calculated as if every code consisted of only different buttons. But if you can press buttons twice or thrice or whatever (which is actually the case) then there are far more combos and that's why your calculations are right. sorry for that

So you did 12! instead of 12^12 combinations? That would do it.

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#152

Posted 13 January 2005 - 02:55 AM

QUOTE (K^2 @ Jan 13 2005, 02:45)
QUOTE (Kazass)
EDIT: Oh and K^2, sorry. I was wrong, my calculations would've been right if one code consisted of only different buttons, so no double buttons lol
That's why I didn't see a mistake because I thought if I made a mistake, then it would've been a calculative mistake, but actually I calculated as if every code consisted of only different buttons. But if you can press buttons twice or thrice or whatever (which is actually the case) then there are far more combos and that's why your calculations are right. sorry for that


lol, Thrice huh.. BTW I hope there is a cheat called "Unlimited Fly Height" so I can see the space.. jk biggrin.gif

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#153

Posted 13 January 2005 - 03:02 AM

Maybe car-surfing on a Tanker or Packer would make it easy to stay on once the car starts to go down.. I'm not sure how well they fly, but they have places you could stand on as the car starts to drop.

Another thing.. this sounds ridiculous.. but has anyone had a look to see if the Cars Fly cheat affects the train at all? If not then damn. I really want to be able to have more fun with that stupid boring train.

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#154

Posted 13 January 2005 - 03:08 AM Edited by bignothing, 30 January 2005 - 07:44 AM.

Edisoncarter you are my hero. Thank you.

I've been following this thread and was intrigued at how edisoncarter finds the cheats, not just the hardware hookup but analyzing the audio log. Pure genius. Brilliant.

EDIT:

The remainder of this lengthy post has been removed. I had some speculation about the "Ladies Love CJ" cheat, whether this cheat worked, and whether it sounded a "Cheat Activated" blip. Summary: I don't know whether this cheat does anything, but I have never gotten a cheat activated blip entering this button cheat. Subsequent posts cleared up some questions I had but did not shed light on the "Ladies Love" cheat specifically.

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#155

Posted 13 January 2005 - 03:09 AM

QUOTE (Wanted Man @ Jan 13 2005, 03:02)
He I turned off the peds riot people said you can't.

ya its one of the codes that are cant be deactivated. it was the same for vice city.
That gang cheat is so fun

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#156

Posted 13 January 2005 - 03:19 AM

I tried it. Trains don't fly. I wonder if there is a motorcycles fly cheat.

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#157

Posted 13 January 2005 - 04:04 AM Edited by C.J., 13 January 2005 - 05:27 AM.

Well theres a glitch,(This is pertaining to the last page.)where when you knock off two people that are on a bike, then you and the pasenger both try to get on the bike. If the other person gets there right after you then thay will get on just like thay do to there pedestrian driver. Its pretty easy to do if u find 2 people on a bike. Its fun but gets boring the 2nd time! confused.gif

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#158

Posted 13 January 2005 - 04:46 AM

QUOTE (C.J. @ Jan 13 2005, 04:04)
well theres a glitch (this is pertaining to the last page)where when u knock off two people and youll both try to get on if the other person gets there right after you then thay will get on just like thay do to there driver its pretty easy to do if u find 2 people on a bike its fun but gets boring the 2nd time confused.gif

Did anyone else find this nearly impossible to read? It took me 4 attempts to finally figure out what he's talking about.

Punctuation, man. Punctuation.

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 04:51 AM

QUOTE (K^2 @ Jan 13 2005, 04:46)
QUOTE (C.J. @ Jan 13 2005, 04:04)
well theres a glitch (this is pertaining to the last page)where when u knock off two people and youll both try to get on if the other person gets there right after you then thay will get on just like thay do to there driver its pretty easy to do if u find 2 people on a bike its fun but gets boring the 2nd time confused.gif

Did anyone else find this nearly impossible to read? It took me 4 attempts to finally figure out what he's talking about.

Punctuation, man. Punctuation.

Lmao... same here.

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#160

Posted 13 January 2005 - 09:01 AM

IDLE BANTER GUYS! angry.gif

Anyways...
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Gang Members Everywhere
LEFT, RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT, LEFT, X, DOWN, UP, SQUARE, RIGHT


This does seem to vary from the "Gangs Rule Streets" cheat. Gangs spawn on the usual paths but only the gangs with controlable territory (OGF, Ballas, Vagos) but unlike the Gang Rulz cheat it does still have pedestrians and the normal frequency of police. This cheat will be very useful when doing the territory glitch and possibly better than the other because it doesn't spawn all the gangs in SA which makes it way harder to stay focused on gang wars.

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  Hey Edisoncarter when did you start to do the cheats for san andreas?


Duh, theres a date on his first post!

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#161

Posted 13 January 2005 - 02:06 PM

The cheat seems to just replace all peds (except special peds: store owners, poliecmen, firemen, paramedics) with gang members.

I put the following explanation on the site:
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Similar to the 'Gangs Rule the Streets' cheat, except all pedestrians are replaced by gang members. Policemen, firemen, paramedics and shop owners stay the same.

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#162

Posted 13 January 2005 - 04:29 PM

I still dont understand why I have pedestrians on mine aswell as the gangs?

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#163

Posted 13 January 2005 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (peanut12 @ Jan 13 2005, 12:29)
I still dont understand why I have pedestrians on mine aswell as the gangs?

What types of pedestrians do you still have?

In addition to the list that DigitalD supplied, I found taxi drivers and bikers. I haven't checked to see whether or not the sea-faring population has changed much, but my guess would that its still the same.

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#164

Posted 13 January 2005 - 06:32 PM

QUOTE (wildhalcyon @ Jan 13 2005, 17:10)
QUOTE (peanut12 @ Jan 13 2005, 12:29)
I still dont understand why I have pedestrians on mine aswell as the gangs?

What types of pedestrians do you still have?

In addition to the list that DigitalD supplied, I found taxi drivers and bikers. I haven't checked to see whether or not the sea-faring population has changed much, but my guess would that its still the same.

Just some woman plainly dressed. The men in leather jackets are still about, and some other pretty basic pedestrians.

I didnt travel too far with the cheat activated, but I moved around enough to notice that they were still about in LV.

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#165

Posted 14 January 2005 - 01:42 AM

Has anyone else noticed that if you enter either the "gangs only" or "gangs everywhere" cheats, there are gangs that never show up otherwise? During normal gameplay, some gangs spawn that don't have anything to do with the storyline, but with these cheats, some gangs spawn that I've never even seen before. For example, I saw a group of guys in Las Venturas with light tan pants, dark vests, and ponytails. That's just one example.

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#166

Posted 14 January 2005 - 04:09 AM

hi, i just joined, but i've been looking through these forums for a few weeks now. i've found them more reliable than others, so i decided to start posting here from now on.

but what i was wondering is if edisoncarter has contacted rockstar about him finding these cheats, or does rockstar know about them being revealed yet?

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#167

Posted 14 January 2005 - 06:16 AM

QUOTE (chris_89883 @ Jan 14 2005, 04:15)
im sure rockstar knows, i doubt he has contacted them. It would be nice if they just gave up all the cheats cause we are going get them all anyways, i hope.

He probably won't be able to go through all combinations in a reasonable ammount of time.

Actually, in case edisoncarter still reads this thread, how many combinations did the system go through by now?

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#168

Posted 14 January 2005 - 11:25 AM

I'll make it easier for you. Here are the hexidecimal codes for the buttons:

up 55
down 44
left 4c
right 52
triangle 54
square 53
circle 43
X 58
L1 31
L2 32
R1 33
R2 34
I'm not sure how this will help you, though. I've written some search programs to go through the main executible of the game and the script files to search for cheat codes, and I didn't find anything helpfull. It seems to me that they where based on a switch that got optimized by a compiler. Good luck reverse engeneering that.

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 05:44 PM

If someone good with game files, like Opius, could tell me what Rockstar probably used to compile the game, there is a damn good chance of reversing whatever file its in.

You'd be surprise what can be reversed.

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#170

Posted 14 January 2005 - 09:38 PM

Found some more cheats:

Funhouse Theme
TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, L1, SQUARE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, SQUARE, DOWN, CIRCLE
Hotknifes, baggage handlers, tugs, hotdogs, mr whoopees, pizzaboys, bf injections, caddys, quads, most with hydraulics. Peds are food service workers and clowns. Get goofy outfit.

Sandstorm?
UP, DOWN, L1, L1, L2, L2, L1, L2, R1, R2
Not the same as the Foggy Weather cheat. It's much brighter, and windy.

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 09:43 PM Edited by CarSurfingKing, 14 January 2005 - 09:46 PM.

QUOTE (edisoncarter @ Jan 14 2005, 21:38)
Found some more cheats:

Funhouse Theme
TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, L1, SQUARE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, SQUARE, DOWN, CIRCLE
Hotknifes, baggage handlers, tugs, hotdogs, mr whoopees, pizzaboys, bf injections, caddys, quads, most with hydraulics.  Peds are food service workers and clowns.  Get goofy outfit.

Sandstorm?
UP, DOWN, L1, L1, L2, L2, L1, L2, R1, R2
Not the same as the Foggy Weather cheat.  It's much brighter, and windy.

note, funhouse theme makes all cars have hydraulics as well, just tested it
oh my bad, i should have read ALL of edisons post eh? well
great find

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#172

Posted 14 January 2005 - 09:47 PM

QUOTE (edisoncarter @ Jan 14 2005, 21:38)
Found some more cheats:

Funhouse Theme
TRIANGLE, TRIANGLE, L1, SQUARE, SQUARE, CIRCLE, SQUARE, DOWN, CIRCLE
Hotknifes, baggage handlers, tugs, hotdogs, mr whoopees, pizzaboys, bf injections, caddys, quads, most with hydraulics. Peds are food service workers and clowns. Get goofy outfit.

Sandstorm?
UP, DOWN, L1, L1, L2, L2, L1, L2, R1, R2
Not the same as the Foggy Weather cheat. It's much brighter, and windy.

Good Work Edison as my sig used to say u should be a mod

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#173

Posted 14 January 2005 - 10:15 PM Edited by edisoncarter, 14 January 2005 - 10:20 PM.

QUOTE (nsane @ Jan 14 2005, 14:03)
time to redo my cop car collection with hydrolics smile.gif

btw, the hydrolics stay after you disable the cheat. just tested it smile.gif

Hotring, here i come tounge.gif

That's a good point! Cop cars have hydraulics too. Also, if any regular traffic comes along, it looks like it has hydraulics if it can take it. I found a Sabre and it had it.

Do spawned vehicles have hydraulics? (Edit: I mean vehicles that spawn a certain type of car in a certain place, not cheat code spawn) Which police vehicles have them? This cheat is a way to get hydraulics on vehicles that I think you could never normally buy them on.

Edit: Does that clown normally appear in the game anywhere? He looks like Ronald McDonald.

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 10:16 PM

QUOTE (edisoncarter @ Jan 14 2005, 22:15)
QUOTE (nsane @ Jan 14 2005, 14:03)
time to redo my cop car collection with hydrolics smile.gif

btw, the hydrolics stay after you disable the cheat. just tested it smile.gif

Hotring, here i come tounge.gif

That's a good point! Cop cars have hydraulics too. Also, if any regular traffic comes along, it looks like it has hydraulics if it can take it. I found a Sabre and it had it.

Do spawned vehicles have hydraulics? Which police vehicles have them? This cheat is a way to get hydraulics on vehicles that I think you could never normally buy them on.

so does the quad have hydraulics?

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 10:21 PM

Another great find edisoncarter. Thanks for the new button codes. Also I have a question. I have been playing around with some button codes that have been out for some time like the MAX MUSCLE code and I noticed when I pushed the right directional button instead of the left like it says at the end of the button code it took my MAX MUSCLE down to what it would be without using the button cheat. Is this a joker button code because I pushed right instead of left on the directional pad? I've been trying it with some other button codes by switching the last button to press with it's opposite but haven't seen anything happen other than with MAX MUSCLE.

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 10:49 PM Edited by nsane, 14 January 2005 - 10:55 PM.

QUOTE (edisoncarter @ Jan 14 2005, 22:41)
How about the Enforcer and FBI (what is it this time, Rancher?)

they work smile.gif

there any way to get a non-spawned airplane? that would be funny to see drolics on lol.gif

edit: they work on the Barracks too tounge.gif

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE (edisoncarter @ Jan 14 2005, 22:15)
QUOTE (nsane @ Jan 14 2005, 14:03)
time to redo my cop car collection with hydrolics smile.gif

btw, the hydrolics stay after you disable the cheat. just tested it smile.gif

Hotring, here i come tounge.gif

That's a good point! Cop cars have hydraulics too. Also, if any regular traffic comes along, it looks like it has hydraulics if it can take it. I found a Sabre and it had it.

Do spawned vehicles have hydraulics? (Edit: I mean vehicles that spawn a certain type of car in a certain place, not cheat code spawn) Which police vehicles have them? This cheat is a way to get hydraulics on vehicles that I think you could never normally buy them on.

Edit: Does that clown normally appear in the game anywhere? He looks like Ronald McDonald.

That clown always drives the MR. Whopee truck.

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#178

Posted 14 January 2005 - 11:09 PM

With the "funhouse" cheat, I've noticed a couple rare cars driving around. the Mower and the Bandito
I was wondering if anyone else saw them or any others? I didn't get to steal any of them though, so i dunno if they had hydrolics or not

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Posted 14 January 2005 - 11:30 PM Edited by nsane, 14 January 2005 - 11:37 PM.

all cars on the road have hydrolics. unless they have some special feature..tank, ambulance, and firetruck wink.gif

i wanna get a tow truck chain going with all the trucks hopped up on drolics biggrin.gif

edit: anyone know if there's a flight path over the airfield? cause i'm ganna shoot it down and push it into the garage smile.gif

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ssshhh, i'm hunting me some hydrolic-airplanes lol.gif
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#180

Posted 14 January 2005 - 11:36 PM

I also noticed that when I entered the sandstorm code with the funhouse code it replaced all the clowns, burger shot girls, etc with a certain ped that says "Come on man, move!".




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