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Posted 14 December 2004 - 06:04 AM Edited by Technical_Difficulty, 14 December 2004 - 06:42 AM.

Well, I just entered through the gym but can't find the locations, It's just black, don't see any markers.

Edit - Ok, in the Strip Club. But don't know how to get to the other locations.

Edit2 - Aha! Did it, cool. Thanks a lot. Oops, poor CJ, I walked into a black room in the Crack palace of B-dups & CJ fell for like, I dunno, 20 seconds and hit the white ground.

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 07:42 AM

The jetpack is your FRIEND. LOL

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 07:54 AM

yo no the map where you put that yellow circle...is that where you think liberty city is or is it actually there????

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 08:29 AM

The area with the yellow circle is where it SHOULD be. Here's why...


Using the gym glitch, and then allowing yourself to fall to the ground, you will find that CJ's Garage from San Fierro is ACTUALLY AT Flint Range, north of Back O Beyond... West of Los Santos.

Its between 2 dirt roads that link into a S type black road with the roads going north and south.


So.... if CJ's garage is there... and Liberty City was North and East of there...

The area of Richman in Los Santos SHOULD BE where Liberty City is at.

Thats assuming the map functions the way it treats the hell on the ground.
Where CJ's Garage is at Back O Beyond.

But... If it treats it in an awkward state like it does when your loading interiors...

Then Liberty City would most likely be on the Beaches of Los Santos.
Considering Dying in the Tattoo Parlor located in Conference Center, Los santos, puts you in Fort Carson Hospital... and dying in the Strip Club which is located at Denise's house, puts you in Montgomery... then maybe Liberty City is on the beaches of Los Santos.

Its gonna be a HARD find in either case.

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 12:40 PM Edited by carpetdweller, 14 December 2004 - 04:56 PM.

I having some trouble finding some of those new places just added.
I did Rusty Brown's, Ammunation and the Mod shop 2 so far. I love the way you can walk INSIDE the vending machine in Ammunation.

Also, OD fa real, I notice you said that you found SFPD & LVPD in your original post. Previously I'd only seen one of these (LV) and only just noticed the SF marker right near it. I dont think any of the maps show this individually (it is where the '15' is on your latest map. The pink number, I mean, not the red dot). LVPD being the one labelled 15.

This is another great interior they left out. I just got lost in it.

And for anyone having jetpack difficulties around LVPD:
Keep to the south side. You seem to be fairly safe there.

Too bad my Dad's borrowed the camera for a while.

Where to next?

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EDIT: Found all the rest of the new ones now. I updated my map to include recent additions and I put in SFPD as number 27.

The New Map can be found here.

And the New Key can be found here.

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 07:06 PM Edited by pexeq, 14 December 2004 - 07:17 PM.

http://mitglied.lyco...s/gta/gtasa.htm

there are pictures of all places (excluding #27 i think)
and I couldnt decide between SF and LV Police department, could be wrong

aaand: south of the hard-to-enter marker (#20), there is another hard-to-enter marker (or impossible-to-enter?)

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 07:11 PM Edited by Bobowtjuhh, 14 December 2004 - 07:29 PM.

Damn.. I can't find the VICTIM Shop..
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I'm flying around that Area even marked and stuff
And I can't find it..


Edit:

Pff whatever I bet you have to complete the game first

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 09:39 PM

Hmm... might have to explore some of these new areas later.
Noticed something, OG Loc's decks have flashing lights (never saw them during the cut scene), cool stuff.

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:08 PM

Kinda funny thing.. If you let CJ descend to the ground in blackhell after entering from Ganton-Gym: Go to the garage in SF (Market or something)... Stand in front of the garage, it opens, if you have a car inside it you can actually drive it.. But, and this is the cool part... Itīs invicible (seethrough or what you call it). You can see CJ entering the car, but as soon as he is behind the steeringwheel he dissapears... So now you can drive around blackhell... And if you want to leave blackhell without killing yourself, go to the TransFender shop and drive in to the red marker.. Do som TransFendering and when your finished, you will reappear in the normal LS.. Itīs a trick to either have NOS on your car or to beat it so it starts to smoke, itīs easier to navigate around in the invicible car if you can see the smoke or bluish-nos from the exhaust..

To find the Garage in SF see this user posted image , itīs the one around WangCars.

Notice: To find this, get to the ground of blackhell from Ganton-Gym..

(Can anyone try to put a small plane, cropduster or stuntplane in the garage in SF-Market and then enter through the Ganton-Gym-Blackhell-"Door"... Try flying around in blackhell)

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (djchange @ Dec 14 2004, 23:08)
Kinda funny thing.. If you let CJ descend to the ground in blackhell after entering from Ganton-Gym: Go to the garage in SF (Market or something)... Stand in front of the garage, it opens, if you have a car inside it you can actually drive it.. But, and this is the cool part... Itīs invicible (seethrough or what you call it). You can see CJ entering the car, but as soon as he is behind the steeringwheel he dissapears... So now you can drive around blackhell... And if you want to leave blackhell without killing yourself, go to the TransFender shop and drive in to the red marker.. Do som TransFendering and when your finished, you will reappear in the normal LS.. Itīs a trick to either have NOS on your car or to beat it so it starts to smoke, itīs easier to navigate around in the invicible car if you can see the smoke or bluish-nos from the exhaust..

To find the Garage in SF see this user posted image , itīs the one around WangCars.

Notice: To find this, get to the ground of blackhell from Ganton-Gym..

(Can anyone try to put a small plane, cropduster or stuntplane in the garage in SF-Market and then enter through the Ganton-Gym-Blackhell-"Door"... Try flying around in blackhell)

If you want that, just fly the plane from the beefy baron mission into the water. You're dropped right there!

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:17 PM Edited by djchange, 14 December 2004 - 11:38 PM.

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If you want that, just fly the plane from the beefy baron mission into the water. You're dropped right there!


In blackhell, with a invicible plane to drive around in? Donīt think so blink.gif

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Well, I don't know if you have a plane in your garage, but yes, it drops you in the same place you're experiencing now!


OK.. I donīt want to have a "plane-in-my-garage"-trick, that I can just get from another place and just drive in to the garage.. And *badabing* I have a plane in my garage..
But if Iīll do it your way: Iīll do the "Beefy Baron" mission and fly the plane into the water, Iīwill then be re-spawned inside a INVICIBLE plane driving around in BLACKHELL (not in the fullyloaded world)...??
I find that hard to belive, but this game donīt have any limits it seems...

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:21 PM

Well, I don't know if you have a plane in your garage, but yes, it drops you in the same place you're experiencing now!

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:50 PM

How do you enter the Brothel?

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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:59 PM Edited by carpetdweller, 15 December 2004 - 01:02 AM.

QUOTE (Bobowtjuhh @ Dec 14 2004, 19:11)
Damn.. I can't find the VICTIM Shop..
..

I'm flying around that Area even marked and stuff
And I can't find it..

Are you searching with a blue sky or black sky?

Try looking before you enter the interior No.2, so the sky is still black. I found it easily that way. Or if you're there already with daylight and don't want to restart. Enter a yellow marker that you know you can leave again [one of B Dup's places?]. This should alternate the fully formed interiors with the entrance marker ones, meaning that instead of looking for a small floating triangle you are now looking for a 3D building. Hope that works.

pexeq:
Those are great pics. How did you know that was the Angel Pine Motel? Does the title appear or did it feature in the game and I've just forgotten it.

I thought I'd seen 2 different strip clubs! But I told myself they were both the same one. I should have looked closer at the stages.

That Police pic looks like LV to me [judging by the reception counter. The SF one is straight and stretches from one wall to another.]

On another point:
I did a little research around the normal LV today. I went into some shops and other interiors testing whether the jetpack worked in them. Nearly all of them had the affect of being stuck to the ground when X was pressed. The only one that didn't was the LV Gym. I haven't found a way out of there though... yet.

Does anyone who did the anti-grav cheat know where more locations are, or at least which interiors are available or close to each other?

I'm keen to find Francis international now. I heard it was ground level inside one of the other airports. If this was true, how would I get it to show up as it isn't visible from Blue hell?

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How do you enter the Brothel?

Assuming you've left the gym and entered marker 2 [previously marked as strip club but now looks to be Angel Pine Motel] just hover up through the roof and you will see the brothel located very close to one side of the motel. Jetpack over and drop in.
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Edit: Correction
I just tried to get to the Brothel and saw that you can't just 'drop in' as there is an invisible ceiling. If you got this far and was actually wondering how to walk inside - There is small missing wall near the tiger skin which you can pass through.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:47 AM

QUOTE (carpetdweller @ Dec 14 2004, 23:59)
Those are great pics. How did you know that was the Angel Pine Motel? Does the title appear or did it feature in the game and I've just forgotten it.

there was no name shown, and it took me a day to figure out what it probably is. the objects inside arent solid, so I thought of a cut scene, and then i remembered tenpenny sitting on one of those round chairs

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (TheDuffMan @ Dec 14 2004, 04:50)
For rusty brown you have to actually enter through a yellow marker, then you can never get out of it. Forgot the location atm though. For those still trying to get to the hidden tattoo shop... video at: http://www.edgefiles...iles/17888.html

ok but did u use the walk through walls cheat cuz i hit invisible walls

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (Frank-Tenpenny @ Dec 15 2004, 01:14)
QUOTE (TheDuffMan @ Dec 14 2004, 04:50)
For rusty brown you have to actually enter through a yellow marker, then you can never get out of it.  Forgot the location atm though.  For those still trying to get to the hidden tattoo shop... video at: http://www.edgefiles...iles/17888.html

ok but did u use the walk through walls cheat cuz i hit invisible walls

You can definitely enter it using only the jetpack. I've had trouble with a few of those yellow markers. You just have to make sure you approach from the right angle. I always hate it when you finally find a piece of firm surface to stand on right next to a marker and it turns out there's a wall in front of it.

All I can say is keep an eye on the radar and use all the other clues such as reflections, peds and where music comes from. Eventually you'll get in.

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I just had a quick look through the strategy guide and the only mission I can find where you see Tenpenny inside somewhere [in Badlands] is 'Body Harvest'. Here you meet him and Truth at The Budget Inn Motel [I think the sign outside had letters missing, so it said U GET IN MOTEL] in Angel Pine. The pics here are small, but I'm not sure it's the same place.

Flicking through the guide made me think of all the other cutscene locations that are missing. Woozie's SF place was a fantastic interior, The plane interiors from Stowaway and Freefall, World of Coq restaurant, the casino rooms that are no longer accessible... [and so on]

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 01:57 AM

*Humps you all*

Heh, Seems as though my discovery has led OD to expand it much more. Oh, and I got to Rusty Ring's. Nothing special but it once looked like you could eat there.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:10 AM

Ok, i just went through blackhell with a jetpack and got the secret tats, but i'm not sure if i should save. I mean, i've heard of people needing to "convert" their memory card or something like that when they save after usig the jetpack. And i'm not sure if it will keep me from being able to get 100% on my other save file, like, i know it will keep me from getting 100% on the file i'd save on, but will it corrupt any other files/ruin my saves entirely? Please help soon.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:11 AM

Sometimes when I fly to get to the other areas I get a screen for half a second that says "Loading" and then I cant move CJ around. Anywya to get past this?

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:18 AM

yes! i got em thanks for the advice

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:25 AM

QUOTE (LAPD 85 @ Dec 15 2004, 02:11)
Sometimes when I fly to get to the other areas I get a screen for half a second that says "Loading" and then I cant move CJ around. Anywya to get past this?

youre too low. if the loading screen appeared, you should reload or kill yourself

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 02:37 AM Edited by LAPD 85, 15 December 2004 - 02:39 AM.

But I was around the arrow marker. Also is there a way to enter the LV Planning Department?

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 03:06 AM

QUOTE (LAPD 85 @ Dec 15 2004, 02:37)
Also is there a way to enter the LV Planning Department?

yes there is, you can enter on the ground floor. when you go from the entry hall through the doorway to the stairs, the ceiling between the doorway and the stairs on the ground floor is not solid

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 03:30 AM Edited by OD fa real, 15 December 2004 - 05:17 AM.

carpetdweller, i've checked your map.
I also noted how some of the interiors work...

map still located at: http://www.freewebs....l/lossantos.jpg


There are a few versions of hell in which you can view interiors...

1. Gym Hell (automatically gotten once you fly thru the gym ceiling)
Colors: Black
2. Sky Hell (gotten when you fly thru location #2 mainly)
Colors: Daylight
3. B Dup's Hell (gotten when you fly thru B Dup's Crackhouse)
Colors: Black
4. Ammu-nation Hell (gotten when you fly into Ammunation's weak wall, then enter its marker, and THEN fly out the weak wall again.)
Colors: Black

If they can only be seen by markers (so far), it says markers next to them.

Here's the list

There are a few versions of hell in which you can view interiors...

1. Gym Hell (automatically gotten once you fly thru the gym ceiling)
Colors: Black
2. Sky Hell (gotten when you fly thru location #2 mainly)
Colors: Daylight
3. B Dup's Hell (gotten when you fly thru B Dup's Crackhouse)
Colors: Black
4. Ammu-nation Hell (gotten when you fly into Ammunation's weak wall, then enter its marker, and THEN fly out the weak wall again.)
Colors: Black

If they can only be seen by markers (so far), it says markers next to them.


1 - Ganton Gym
2 - Strip club (act. daylight, can be seen in black hells)
3 - Brothel (hell #2)
4 - Betting shop (hell #2)
5 - Record Label corridor (hell #2)
6 - Strip club (hell #1, hell #3... #3 shows entire interior)
7 - Warehouse 1 (markers)
8 - Warehouse 2 (markers)
9 - B Dup's Apartment (hell #2)
10 - B Dup's Crack Palace (marker, activates hell #3)
11 - Car Mod Garage (hell #2)
12 - OG Loc's House (hell #2)
13 - Barber Shop (hell #2)
14 - LV City Planning Department (hell #2)
15 - Police Department (hell #2)
16 - Pro-Laps (hell #1)
17 - Sex Shop (hell #2)
18 - Old Tattoo place (hell #2)
19 - New Tattoo place (marker)
20 - Hard to enter marker. (marker)
21 - Diner (hell #1)
22 - Pizza stack (hell #1)
23 - Rusty Brown's Donuts (marker)
24 - Ammunations (marker, activates hell #4)
25 - Victim (hell #1)
26 - Car Mod 2 (hell #3)
27 - San Fierro Police Department (marker)
28 - 24 / 7 (marker)
29 - Las Venturas Gym (hell #4)



BTW: Ammunation's weak wall is to the right of the yellow marker... once your already inside. You can use it to get inside also... Wierd.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 04:53 AM

is the 24-7 used in the game? because it is very large and causes some slowdowns. also, a part of the wall on the lower-left corner is not solid, so you can exit there and see from outside (updated the picture-site btw)

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 05:15 AM

QUOTE (pexeq @ Dec 15 2004, 04:53)
is the 24-7 used in the game? because it is very large and causes some slowdowns. also, a part of the wall on the lower-left corner is not solid, so you can exit there and see from outside (updated the picture-site btw)

yeah it is used in the game... and yes it is INCREDIBLY LAGGY. It just slowed down everything. Cool find on the weak wall. I'll check it out.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 11:00 AM

arrrggg... I tried looking around the exact place to the hidden tat parlor and I still can't find the dam thing. It's really hard to get my altitude at the exact same level since there isn't any altitude meter. Is there an easier way to get there? Pls help.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:33 PM

OD fa real -
it may just be that my computers acting strange [it has been a lot lately] but I think the map link in your above post is wrong. It always opens this forum in a new window for me. I then tried typing the address as it appears on screen and a map appeared. At first I thought it was still wrong as I thought "That's my map". Then I noticed that you'd added more numbers.

I was happy to keep using your map as well as mine and any others people come up with. I was originally gonna use this post to try to arrange a way of pre-booking map numbers so that everyone's maps were consistent. In other words: when someone finds a new area they announce it here and claim the next map number for that location. That way number 86 on one map will be the same place as 86 on another. However, if you're happy to go with my map design [if you can call it that] then that would work too. It's intentionally simplistic so that most people can add to it without changing the look. People can download it, make changes, and a upload the new version and announce it here. That's all assuming anyone else is even interested in making maps.

side note: I was thinking of color-coding the dots to represent different hell states. But maybe leave that till later.

Good work on finding this and everyone who found weak walls. I looked around the planning department, but kept falling.

Anyway, Haven't seen 24/7 or LV gym outside of Pexeq's pics so I'm off to visit them now.

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 12:37 PM

My colour-coded map:
http://gtadomain.gta...ninteriors.html

I'll have to check out those new ones you've added.





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