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Posted 30 October 2004 - 08:58 PM Edited by The Untouchable, 03 November 2004 - 02:32 PM.

Zero Missions - Supply LinesÖ

What a hard mission, eh? Rock solid at first, but quite simple when you actually complete it.

Things to consider!
  • There are 3 vans, 1 Sanchez and 1 courier on a BMX.
  • 2 vans and 1 Sanchez are bullet-sensitive. This is described and mentioned in the guide.
  • The plane is very hard to control. Itís best to use the L2 & R2 buttons to turn and the left analog to dive and sharp turn. Although, sharp turning is NOT recommended with this Bandit.
  • The RC Bandit isnít very tough. If you crash too much or get shot many times, itíll blow. Then itís mission failed.
  • Flying and shooting at the same time are difficult. Especially when chasing the enemy. Not recommended.
  • When using the analog stick to control the Bandits turns, use it softly. Pushing it up/down/left/right straight away can cause bad results. Itís safer to use it softly.
  • Itís easy to mess up in the Bandit as it handles awfully. You can spend a long time on the floor, just twisting around trying to get a run up to lift off of the floor. Itís get annoying after a while because it wastes fuel.
  • Keep your head on. Youíll probably get very stressed at this mission. I did. Just keep trying and after around 10 tries, sit and cool down. While youíre cooling down, think of ways of how you can do better and which blips to go for (Iíd recommend using the ones in this guide though).
  • Try your best. Youíll do it eventually.
Hereís the guide:-
  • When you start, donít go North. Go towards the van behind you but DONíT target courier first. Get the BMX going down the other road.
  • Start to shoot the guy on the BMX. When heís on the BMX, heís invincible. Wait for him to jump off then kill him. Easy.
  • Turn around and go after the first van (the one you flew past to get at the guy on the BMX). Itís quite hard to turn in the Bandit in the tight street space but if you canít do that, land and turn on the floor until youíre in the right position.
  • Now that youíre out of the street and on the vans tail, you can either land right behind the van and shoot it or shoot it from above. The driver jumps out and falls flat on his face, blast him. Note: You don't need to blow up the van when the courier is dead. Just kill the courier.
  • Now that the courier is dead, go after the next van. Itís about two blocks away. Fly through the streets or over the buildings. Which ever you prefer.
  • When you reach the van, make sure you donít land or fly in front of it. Heíll spot you and drive away at high speed. Instead, land behind the van, go right up close (so youíre under the bumper) and start blasting. Of course, if you stayed there while you shoot the van, youíd get blown up when the van does. Reverse away from the vehicle (keep shooting). Make sure youíre going in a straight line though, you donít want to start swerving out of control and losing the van because if it doesnít get blown up fast, itíll drive away, quickly. Itís best to do this on corners or at traffic lights but seeing as they drive relatively slow (when they donít know youíre there) youíll be ok.
  • 3 down! 2 to go! Fly up, turn around and head North. Make sure youíre high enough so you can evade most buildings so you 1) Donít have to make a sudden jolt upwards to avoid smashing into a wall, 2) Donít have to weave in and out of streets and 3) Saves fuel and you keep a constant speed so youíre using your fuel efficiently.
  • Go to the nearest red blip. Itís usually the Sanchez. The Sanchez is the off-road motorcycle and is bullet-sensitive. What I mean is that if you fire even ONE bullet in its direction whether it hits or not, itíll speed away. This Sanchez has two people on. A driver and a gunner. Watch out for the gunner because the Bandit can blow up VERY easily. It is very frustrating, believe me.
  • The Sanchez is in an area where there are traffic lights. Nearly every time I arrived, they were waiting at traffic lights, PERFECT.
  • Make sure they donít see you and land behind them. Go up close, but not right up to the back wheel and commence shooting. As you know, Sanchezís can pelt away pretty quick, but this one doesnít. Youíve got like a 2-4 second time gap before it gathers its momentum and pulls away. USE IT. Stay stationary and fire at the bike. If it moves a little, press L2 or R2 to follow it. DONíT USE LEFT ANALOG!! If you time your shooting right, position correctly and donít worry, youíll have it sorted.
  • 4 down! 1 to go! This van is quite a way away. Donít worry though, I was at just over Ĺ a tank of fuel at this point. If youíve got that amount, donít get frustrated. If youíre under Ĺ or just hitting it, you can't really mess up from this point.
  • Fly down the street and pick up altitude so you can fly over the buildings below. It saves time, fuel and worrying about hitting buildings and dodging obstacles. Youíll notice that the next red blip is about 3-4 blocks away.
  • When you arrive at the area that the van is in, do what you did to the other vans. Park up behind it, under the bumper. This is a van that if you donít blow it up fast, itíll drive away at top speed and youíve got little chance of blowing it up. So, if it gets away, mission failed. Try again. Even if the plane was fast enough, youíve got the fuel and handling to worry about. Itís a shame that they donít work hand in hand, isnít it? The handlingís terrible, the speed's average and the gas mileage is absolutely crap!
  • Anyway, when youíre parked behind the van or trailing it (on the road, not in the air), shoot it. If youíre up close, back away but KEEP SHOOTING. Itíll eventually blow up. If it does make an attempt to get away and youíre confident in your flying skills, follow it and shoot. But I wouldnít recommend it. Youíll be wasting fuel. Also, the planes bullet range is from close-medium so you can stay still for a few seconds when its moving and your bullets still have a chance to hit it.
  • If you wasted the van, youíll hear Zero say something like, ďYeah! No more couriers. Bring the plane back in one pieceĒ by now youíre thinking, "OMFG! I have to fly ALL the way back!!" Well, yes you do. But itís easy. Youíve got to get to Zeroís roof which is about 3 minutes fly away. When I was at this stage (after killing the last courier), i had about 2/5 (1/4) of my fuel left. I thought I wasnít going to make it, but I did. Youíll make it too if you follow these instructions.
  • Fly up and over the buildings and buzz your way towards the blip. To increase speed, fly high up in the air then make a gradual dive towards the ground. Youíll hear the planes buzz get louder. Only attempt this when youíre really high. Just in case you lose control and plummet down, youíve got reaction time. If you fly over the construction yard, youíre going in the same route as me. If not, don't worry just make sure you've got enough fuel to get back! When you get nearer the marker, youíll see it atop of Zeroís shop. You have to land there. Heíll say something like, ďLand it on the roofĒ and the marker disappears! ďOMFG!Ē You might think but it comes back when heís finished talking. No worries.
  • When you land, it says you earn $5000, and Respect +.
  • Congratulations if you completed it! Iím sure you will. If the guide doesnít work first time, work with it and if some parts arenít suitable to your situation, change them around so it works with you, not against you.
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Couple of things to note.  The timings should be evident from the colours used as to when the couriers arrive at any shared junctions, (normally staggered by a couple of mins, how convinient. 

Each colour represents 2 minutes of game time, I stopped after 10 mins (Hrs) as they were spreading out & I assumed you'de have run out of fuel by this point.

Please let me know if this is accurate and/or helped you out.  Also another thing to note Courier 4 appeared to get stuck on what looked like the freeway onramp when i did this, not sure if that happens all the time.

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:49 PM

I'll post for you wont post 5x in a row.

Nice guide.

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE (Randy @ Oct 30 2004, 21:49)
I'll post for you wont post 5x in a row.

Nice guide.

Thanks. I hope it helps some people out. I think i wrote all the stuff out correctly.

If anyone sees something wrong with it, please speak up. I want other people to get the most of this guide.

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:53 PM

untouchable i took ur advice and i did it, thanks a bunch!!! now is this true thats the hardest misison in the game?

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 09:57 PM

QUOTE (fashizzles @ Oct 30 2004, 21:53)
untouchable i took ur advice and i did it, thanks a bunch!!! now is this true thats the hardest misison in the game?

Well, up to that point i'd say it is. So frustrating. I havn't completed all the missions yet so i don't know. It'll be among the hardest though.

Glad to see it worked! biggrin.gif

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 10:16 PM

Oh man, thanks wow.gif
I'm actually on this mission now. I tried a few times last night, got pissed, and stopped playing. It was like 4am anyways smile.gif But awesome job, I'll be trying this out very soon.

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 10:21 PM

QUOTE (Mr.PWN @ Oct 30 2004, 22:16)
Oh man, thanks wow.gif
I'm actually on this mission now. I tried a few times last night, got pissed, and stopped playing. It was like 4am anyways smile.gif But awesome job, I'll be trying this out very soon.

Yeah, lol. I got pissed at it too. I was up till 8am this morning playing San Andreas. Went to sleep and woke up at 12 noon. More San Andreas time! But, i was trying to do that mission on and off for about 2-3 hours. It really kicks your ass into thinking it's impossible but it isn't. I hope this guide shows you that dontgetit.gif

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 10:43 PM

Cool guide, I will give it another try tonight. Thanks!

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Posted 30 October 2004 - 11:20 PM

QUOTE (blackguest @ Oct 30 2004, 22:43)
Cool guide, I will give it another try tonight. Thanks!

Good luck biggrin.gif Please post back later when you've tried it out and say if it worked or not smile.gif

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 02:24 AM

this better work d@mn it, i m a wits end with this thing.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 02:27 AM

i tried it a couple of times and its pissing me off!!!!!!!!! after the first 3 i am almost out of gas. are you saying after killing them all i have to land the thing? just have CJ shoot them in the head, a lot easier.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 02:35 AM

That is A LOT of bumping. notify.gif

Um, not at this mission yet, but the more I hear about... the more I'm dreading it... confused.gif

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 02:47 AM Edited by ProXimity WarNing, 31 October 2004 - 02:51 AM.

I can easily say I HATE this mission with a passion. Took me 2 hours to beat, non-stop trying! I tried it at least 20 times, and man was this hard. I did it the same way the guide above said it, without using it though. Could of come handy before. But even when I did kill all of them, I would run out of fuel on the way back alot, which pissed me off even more. What I can say is don't give up, eventually you will beat it.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 02:52 AM

Yeah, even the GameMaster must admit that this mission is the hardest and most frustrating of any mission, out of all the GTA's. angry.gif

It's just stupid and lame, how the RC Baron handles, if it were a RC Heli, then it would be way better. I must have tried this mission like 100 times now, and still can't pass it. I must do this one, because I've done all the other ones, so I got to beat this one. I'll try your guide later, see how it works.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 03:06 AM

Thanks a bunch!

I've bookmarked this so that I can use it when I get to it. (in about 13 missions tounge.gif )

(hey, i'm not slow! i've only played for 7 hours!) biggrin.gif

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 04:09 AM

Ok, I followed like you said in your guide, and past it! Thanks a bunch man, here's like a bunch of cookies, cookie.gif cookie.gif and catloaf to go with it. catloaf_by_anuj.gif

I stayed focused, played it cool, and beat it in the first try after I read the guide with about 1/4 fuel tank too.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 04:51 AM

if youre high above the targets, as high as you can go as to avoid all buildings, can you still hit the targets with the gun?

i noticed that no fuel is wasted when you are landed and at a stand still, anyone try to see if they would come to you, or at least close to you so you dont have to waste a lot of fuel?

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 07:53 AM

i am going to kill someone.... bloody flippen impossible!

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 09:09 AM Edited by alexclaton, 31 October 2004 - 10:23 AM.

This mission is really pissin me off!!! is there anyway to conserve fuel?
cuz killin the vans/bikes is easy i jus run out fuel traveling back.

any help would be appreciated.thanks.

also why does it say "push O" to selfdestruct?

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 10:47 AM

QUOTE (GameMaster90 @ Oct 31 2004, 04:09)
Ok, I followed like you said in your guide, and past it! Thanks a bunch man, here's like a bunch of cookies, cookie.gif cookie.gif and catloaf to go with it. catloaf_by_anuj.gif

I stayed focused, played it cool, and beat it in the first try after I read the guide with about 1/4 fuel tank too.

Nice one! biggrin.gif Congratz. The last one 'New Model Army' is uber easy. It's ridiculous. It goes from Air Raid, medium to Supply Lines, very hard to New Model Army that is super easy! OMG!

chuck - No. It's safer to get close and shoot them because then you've got more time to blow them up. A lot more accurate shooting too.

Norcon & alex - Read the guide carefully. It's worked for others so there's no reason why it won't work for you.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:07 AM

This is a hella nice guide, Untouchable; I only want to add that parking and lying in wait (as Chuck430 mentioned) is a viable solution once you've gotten the 3 nearest targets. The other two will vary in distance from Zero's building quite a lot (I've run out of fuel because the van went far to the NE, and I tried to chase it down), but if you park in the middle-upper-left of the downtown area, both the bike and the van will come to very near your position.
If you track where they go, you can be sitting there waiting with your gun trained on them when they stop at the intersection. The van was right in front of me, and was like a deer in the headlights when I opened up.

dozingoff.gif They stop at all the goddamn stop lights, though, so grab a coke/beer/whatever and periodically check their positions on your close-up map.


Side note: I don't think either of the northeast targets actually noticed me before I started shooting, no matter where I flew. Are you sure about that, Untouchable?

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:10 AM

QUOTE (IntelliCow @ Oct 31 2004, 11:07)
This is a hella nice guide, Untouchable; I only want to add that parking and lying in wait (as Chuck430 mentioned) is a viable solution once you've gotten the 3 nearest targets. The other two will vary in distance from Zero's building quite a lot (I've run out of fuel because the van went far to the NE, and I tried to chase it down), but if you park in the middle-upper-left of the downtown area, both the bike and the van will come to very near your position.
If you track where they go, you can be sitting there waiting with your gun trained on them when they stop at the intersection. The van was right in front of me, and was like a deer in the headlights when I opened up.

dozingoff.gif They stop at all the goddamn stop lights, though, so grab a coke/beer/whatever and periodically check their positions on your close-up map.


Side note: I don't think either of the northeast targets actually noticed me before I started shooting, no matter where I flew. Are you sure about that, Untouchable?

Yeah but landing still wastes fuel. You're better off flying to them than waiting for them to come to you.

I'm sure if you fly right infront of the 2 vans or Sanchez they'll start shooting at you and driving away. I know it's right because it happened to me.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:14 AM

No, sitting on the ground uses no fuel. It's mostly useful if the two far targets are way far away, and their route will take them back to you so you don't have to track them down.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:15 AM

QUOTE (IntelliCow @ Oct 31 2004, 11:14)
No, sitting on the ground uses no fuel. It's mostly useful if the two far targets are way far away, and their route will take them back to you so you don't have to track them down.

No, it does waste fuel... I know it does because even when i was waiting behind the vans, it went down. I doubt it's a glitch.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:18 AM

Stop f*cking double post, man. You don't need to bump the topic every 10 mins. Anyway, good guide.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:18 AM

Um, cross my heart and hope to die? colgate.gif If you're driving along the ground, yeah, you lose fuel, but if you park it, and just sit there without pressing any buttons, your fuel bar stays rock solid. I just sat there shooting any pedestrian who walked in front of me while waiting for the van to come closer. You don't get attacked by pedestrians or cops in the bandit, which is a saving grace, I suppose.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE (Osirus @ Oct 31 2004, 11:18)
Stop f*cking double post, man. You don't need to bump the topic every 10 mins. Anyway, good guide.

Actually, i do. Don't you see how useful the topic is to people? How is it useful if it's 3/4 down the page or on the second one? People won't search for it often, they'll just make new topics if they don't see one talking about it straight away. That's why it needs to stay up top. Thanks anyway.

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:22 AM

lol... it's the most difficult, frustrating, awful mission in this and probably any GTA ever... and it shouldn't be at the top?

Bump. tounge2.gif

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:25 AM

QUOTE (IntelliCow @ Oct 31 2004, 11:22)
lol... it's the most difficult, frustrating, awful mission in this and probably any GTA ever... and it shouldn't be at the top?

Bump.  tounge2.gif

Ok. I understand what you mean now. But i have two reasons why i thought otherwise. 1) When i was driving around on the floor and stopped, the fuel went down. I thought, "WTF, it goes down when you're stationary!!?" but it might be because just after i stopped, the fuel went down a bit and 2) When you fly in the air and let go of 'X' so you're not picking up any speed (should be gliding) you still lose fuel. It's stupid.

So i guess you're right inlove.gif

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Posted 31 October 2004 - 11:30 AM

Word. Solidarity, brother, in the face of this goddamn ludicrous mission. May your days be filled with cookie.gif 's for this noble guide.




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